Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[tigerballs]

Thompson is a maybe for me. Great player, but recent weeks have made be less certain of the need for a prop.

Tuilagi and Simpkins look like they'll be ready to make the jump as full-time first graders next year. Ofahengaue is a solid prop. Twal and Stefano can give us 50+ minutes a week with no worries. Mikaele and Musgrove can come off the bench and give us some real impact. Realistically, one of Hastings or Brooks is going to be coming off the bench in the 14 and playing the role of a third ball-player for at least 20 a game.

I mean he presents a tangible upgrade over everyone in the pack bar Stefano and Twal, but I don't think it's enough of an upgrade to justify a long-term deal on good money. Lomax would be a better option in terms of improving the squad, or saving up for a star like Brandon Smith or Joey Manu.

You're about spot on there

 

[tigerballs]

Luke Thompson would be a quality signing - hard running prop who makes a good impact in the middle and average 140 metres a game

He'll get signed by Roosters surprise surprise. Waerea-Hargreaves is not far off retirement, they will sign Thompson to take his spot.

They’ll have money with Morris and Friend off the books. Despite that fact, watch everyone flip out when they sign replacements.

People don't use logic in these situations haha, they've lost a lot of players recently.

Appreciate what you are saying but looking at the below 2022 player list you can see why people take the piss..
2022 -
Angus Crichton 720k
Luke Keary - 850k
Manu - 720k
Taukeiaho - 655k
Teddy - 1.1mil
JWH - 700k
Radley - 500k
Collins - 500k +
Suaalii - 500k
Daniel Tupou - 400k+
Watson 300k
Tupouniua - 500k+
Walker upgraded - 400k ?

So just those players for 2022 are on 7.84mil - 13 players and you need to fit the remaining 17 players in the cap.. Cap is around 10mil and min salary is 120k for next year I believe. The average for the 17 remaining players are 129k.

Now these are not 100% correct and not claiming to be an expert but you can see why people take the piss out of there cap and even there ex players do.

We as a club are striving to be in the position and working from the ground up and I believe we are starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel but IMO how is the salary cap working.. TPA need to stop or be capped.

You could also put Souths in this argument as well.

And I think you're underquoting some of those on the list!

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Patience is obviously no one's friend on this forum.

Have a little faith in the value for money approach we are undertaking.

Most of our good young players have been recruited the same way.

You're coming around, Pat

@tigerballs Sunia turuva on our radar?

Is he Any good mate

On development contract with the panthers. Patricia Brothers boy …. Plays centre, three quarters and fullback.

 

[frullens]

NRL 2021: Bulldogs star Luke Thompson shopped to rivals, Dragons chase Origin star

Canterbury prop Luke Thompson has attracted interest from rival NRL clubs as his English-based manager looks to secure a long-term deal.
Dean Ritchie
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Canterbury prop Luke Thompson has attracted interest from rival NRL clubs after his English-based manager could not secure a new, long-term deal with the Bulldogs.

While wanting him to complete his contract at Belmore, Canterbury would consider releasing Thompson early should he procure a lengthy deal elsewhere.

The Bulldogs know there is interest in Thompson.

Thompson has two years remaining on his current Bulldogs deal but his agent, Andy Clarke, has been contacting NRL clubs trying to gauge their interest in the giant British forward from 2024.

The Daily Telegraph has been told Wests Tigers have shown a keenness in Thompson, who earns around $850,000 a season.

Luke Thompson’s manager is trying secure his clients long-term future in Australia.
Clarke wants to nail down Thompson’s long-term future in Australia. He contacted Canterbury hoping the club would agree to an extension.

Yet with a crammed salary cap, Canterbury was unable to tell Clarke they could extend Thompson beyond his current deal. Thompson has an option his way for 2023.

If he can obtain a four-year deal for Thompson, Clarke may ask Canterbury for a release.

The Daily Telegraph has been told Canterbury is right on its salary cap limit for next season.

Rival clubs would want Canterbury to pay around $350,000 a year to take Thompson.

Canterbury can send out its new-look squad next season with any financial pressure but would struggle to sign any new players - or even upgrade a player - given how tight their salary cap has become.

New Bulldogs general manager of football, Phil Gould, is closely monitoring and reworking the club’s cap. Thompson leads the club’s stats every week but an early departure would free up some cash.

Luke Thompson has been one of the Bulldogs best forwards in 2021, but a move would free up salary cap space. Picture: Alix Sweeney.
Luke Thompson has been one of the Bulldogs best forwards in 2021, but a move would free up salary cap space. Picture: Alix Sweeney.
Canterbury is adamant Thompson is not being shopped around - it’s more Clarke trying to settle his client’s long-term NRL future.

Clarke is said to be looking “at all options”.

There are no guarantees Canterbury would allow Thompson to leave early but the club would carefully consider any approach.

There is at least one other Sydney club which has been approached about Thompson.

Thompson has told friends he wants to stay at Canterbury and be part of the expected revival next season.

The Bulldogs are open to moving a player or two while they work to reshape their salary cap. Canterbury has one spot open for next season.

Thompson has established himself among the finest forwards in the NRL desire playing in a wooden-spoon side. He overcame a bout of homesickness just last year.

In September last year, Thompson said: “I’m fully committed to the Bulldogs.”

Thompson will play prop in Canterbury’s match against Newcastle this Saturday on the Gold Coast


Looks like the overspending on players at the dogs is already biting hard.They have already let players on large contracts be subsidised and moved on Thompson will be another.
Thank goodness Hartigan is pulling the financial strings here

LOL it’s year 2 of this rebuild , how is that even possible ? Am I missing something ? How is that last placed pack , going to make the 8 with the addition of TPJ and …. A lot of backs . They can barely get over halfway most sets .
Thompson is , ok , I guess , but he’s hardly the “best prop in the world “ that was being brandished about a year or 2 ago.

**Backs get you over the line , forwards get you to it in the first place .**
Having 2 average nrl back lines take up 70% of your cap , is not smart business IMO . The game where Burton ran the show against us , should be an eye to how the dogs will go next year . Just my opinion , but until they change every last man in that forward pack , and find a 9 , they can buy the aus backline , that team is not winning anything .

Denan Kemp and Cam Smith did a segment on this on SEN.

The said, its actually now the back 5 that make the yardage.
They said the stats of back 5 running metres for team correlate with the ladder standings.

The middle forwards job is primarily in defence to hold the middle. And then second, to get quick play the ball in and momentum in opps half.

 

[TYGA]

Thompson if reported around 500k a year in a 3 year deal is solid. He’s quick and plays like Sam Moa. Not a top flight prop but would present a different body shape than Stefano. Would be good for us but he’s not a top flight prop worth spending big money on. I like him but at a price.

 

[the_third]

Thompson is a maybe for me. Great player, but recent weeks have made be less certain of the need for a prop.

Tuilagi and Simpkins look like they'll be ready to make the jump as full-time first graders next year. Ofahengaue is a solid prop. Twal and Stefano can give us 50+ minutes a week with no worries. Mikaele and Musgrove can come off the bench and give us some real impact. Realistically, one of Hastings or Brooks is going to be coming off the bench in the 14 and playing the role of a third ball-player for at least 20 a game.

I mean he presents a tangible upgrade over everyone in the pack bar Stefano and Twal, but I don't think it's enough of an upgrade to justify a long-term deal on good money. Lomax would be a better option in terms of improving the squad, or saving up for a star like Brandon Smith or Joey Manu.

So an International isn't a good enough upgrade. seriously?

the forum has gone mad again. he is a massive, ill say to slowly M A S S I V E upgrade on all bar Stefano. he also wants to win

 

[avocadoontoast]

Thompson is a maybe for me. Great player, but recent weeks have made be less certain of the need for a prop.

Tuilagi and Simpkins look like they'll be ready to make the jump as full-time first graders next year. Ofahengaue is a solid prop. Twal and Stefano can give us 50+ minutes a week with no worries. Mikaele and Musgrove can come off the bench and give us some real impact. Realistically, one of Hastings or Brooks is going to be coming off the bench in the 14 and playing the role of a third ball-player for at least 20 a game.

I mean he presents a tangible upgrade over everyone in the pack bar Stefano and Twal, but I don't think it's enough of an upgrade to justify a long-term deal on good money. Lomax would be a better option in terms of improving the squad, or saving up for a star like Brandon Smith or Joey Manu.


So an International isn't a good enough upgrade. seriously?

the forum has gone mad again. he is a massive, ill say to slowly M A S S I V E upgrade on all bar Stefano. he also wants to win

I agree. He’s often overlooked because he’s playing in such a poor team but I think he’s an elite front rower. He and Stef would be our best middles by some margin.

 

[mccarry2]

So the Dogs have maxed their cap out for the next 2 years and still don’t have a 1/7/9 LOL and the media call us a basket case

See, there is something good about being a Tigers supporter

The Dogs are the new test case for if a spine matters. Based on their recruitment, they don’t seem to think so…

 

[Eyeofthetiger 0]

Further to @THE_POM post, Smith - Shields has resigned for 2 more years at the raiders according to the Canberra times

 

[Ultimate Warrior]

Thompson is a maybe for me. Great player, but recent weeks have made be less certain of the need for a prop.

Tuilagi and Simpkins look like they'll be ready to make the jump as full-time first graders next year. Ofahengaue is a solid prop. Twal and Stefano can give us 50+ minutes a week with no worries. Mikaele and Musgrove can come off the bench and give us some real impact. Realistically, one of Hastings or Brooks is going to be coming off the bench in the 14 and playing the role of a third ball-player for at least 20 a game.

I mean he presents a tangible upgrade over everyone in the pack bar Stefano and Twal, but I don't think it's enough of an upgrade to justify a long-term deal on good money. Lomax would be a better option in terms of improving the squad, or saving up for a star like Brandon Smith or Joey Manu.


So an International isn't a good enough upgrade. seriously?

the forum has gone mad again. he is a massive, ill say to slowly M A S S I V E upgrade on all bar Stefano. he also wants to win

Nah Lukic nailed it.

I’m concerned he hasn’t been there long and they’re trying to offload him. Smoke? Fire? Although I might trade him for Musgrove. How that guy has such a long contract is beyond me. Lame and thug.

 

[tigerap]

Further to @THE_POM post, Smith - Shields has resigned for 2 more years at the raiders according to the Canberra times

Another one we lost?…he stayed for less

 

[Blocktiger]

A mate if mine that knows abit of news inside of the dogs was telling me. Tigers are a real chance of getting him for next year. He is really dirt he is leaving. This bloke is usually good with his stuff.

 

[jadtiger]

Thompson is starting to become a target with referees with 2 lengthy suspensions late last year and this year.He would need to channel his aggression far better than he has so far to be much of an asset.

 

[finnzo]

Talking about the roosters cap people have to remember Boyd cordner the Morris twins and Jake friend were not contracted for next year so they didn’t game any cap space by them retiring they still have an unbelievable roster and if Zac Lo max ends up there the cap needs to be looked at

 

[Fainu Brothers]

Everyone plays for less at the Roosters

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Further to @THE_POM post, Smith - Shields has resigned for 2 more years at the raiders according to the Canberra times

Another one we lost?…he stayed for less

I cannot blame him for not wanting to move to Sydney. Part of our territory is Covid ravaged.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Thompson is starting to become a target with referees with 2 lengthy suspensions late last year and this year.He would need to channel his aggression far better than he has so far to be much of an asset.

Maybe being more of a forward leader at WTs, and the added responsibility that comes with it, will bring out the best in him.

 

[JC99]

Thompson is a maybe for me. Great player, but recent weeks have made be less certain of the need for a prop.

Tuilagi and Simpkins look like they'll be ready to make the jump as full-time first graders next year. Ofahengaue is a solid prop. Twal and Stefano can give us 50+ minutes a week with no worries. Mikaele and Musgrove can come off the bench and give us some real impact. Realistically, one of Hastings or Brooks is going to be coming off the bench in the 14 and playing the role of a third ball-player for at least 20 a game.

I mean he presents a tangible upgrade over everyone in the pack bar Stefano and Twal, but I don't think it's enough of an upgrade to justify a long-term deal on good money. Lomax would be a better option in terms of improving the squad, or saving up for a star like Brandon Smith or Joey Manu.


So an International isn't a good enough upgrade. seriously?

the forum has gone mad again. he is a massive, ill say to slowly M A S S I V E upgrade on all bar Stefano. he also wants to win

Nah Lukic nailed it.

I’m concerned he hasn’t been there long and they’re trying to offload him. Smoke? Fire? Although I might trade him for Musgrove. How that guy has such a long contract is beyond me. Lame and thug.

He is 1000% a massive upgrade on anyone we've got - we will need another prop for next year. Salary cap issues is what's forcing him out. He's been their best player pretty easily this season.

 

[The_Patriot]

Two schools of thought going on over the last few pages.

Yes Prop is not a position we lack depth or quality. It is something that will only improve with the natural improvement of our young players.

In saying that Thompson is a real quality player and i hope we are a chance to sign him. We need to improve the squad in any way we can, not just sit around waiting for the next Latrel Mitchell.

We are in no position to be cute. If a quality players comes on the market and we are a chance we take him.

You work out the roster after the signature.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

NRL 2021: Bulldogs star Luke Thompson shopped to rivals, Dragons chase Origin star

Canterbury prop Luke Thompson has attracted interest from rival NRL clubs as his English-based manager looks to secure a long-term deal.
Dean Ritchie
,
Canterbury prop Luke Thompson has attracted interest from rival NRL clubs after his English-based manager could not secure a new, long-term deal with the Bulldogs.

While wanting him to complete his contract at Belmore, Canterbury would consider releasing Thompson early should he procure a lengthy deal elsewhere.

The Bulldogs know there is interest in Thompson.

Thompson has two years remaining on his current Bulldogs deal but his agent, Andy Clarke, has been contacting NRL clubs trying to gauge their interest in the giant British forward from 2024.

The Daily Telegraph has been told Wests Tigers have shown a keenness in Thompson, who earns around $850,000 a season.

Luke Thompson’s manager is trying secure his clients long-term future in Australia.
Clarke wants to nail down Thompson’s long-term future in Australia. He contacted Canterbury hoping the club would agree to an extension.

Yet with a crammed salary cap, Canterbury was unable to tell Clarke they could extend Thompson beyond his current deal. Thompson has an option his way for 2023.

If he can obtain a four-year deal for Thompson, Clarke may ask Canterbury for a release.

The Daily Telegraph has been told Canterbury is right on its salary cap limit for next season.

Rival clubs would want Canterbury to pay around $350,000 a year to take Thompson.

Canterbury can send out its new-look squad next season with any financial pressure but would struggle to sign any new players - or even upgrade a player - given how tight their salary cap has become.

New Bulldogs general manager of football, Phil Gould, is closely monitoring and reworking the club’s cap. Thompson leads the club’s stats every week but an early departure would free up some cash.

Luke Thompson has been one of the Bulldogs best forwards in 2021, but a move would free up salary cap space. Picture: Alix Sweeney.
Luke Thompson has been one of the Bulldogs best forwards in 2021, but a move would free up salary cap space. Picture: Alix Sweeney.
Canterbury is adamant Thompson is not being shopped around - it’s more Clarke trying to settle his client’s long-term NRL future.

Clarke is said to be looking “at all options”.

There are no guarantees Canterbury would allow Thompson to leave early but the club would carefully consider any approach.

There is at least one other Sydney club which has been approached about Thompson.

Thompson has told friends he wants to stay at Canterbury and be part of the expected revival next season.

The Bulldogs are open to moving a player or two while they work to reshape their salary cap. Canterbury has one spot open for next season.

Thompson has established himself among the finest forwards in the NRL desire playing in a wooden-spoon side. He overcame a bout of homesickness just last year.

In September last year, Thompson said: “I’m fully committed to the Bulldogs.”

Thompson will play prop in Canterbury’s match against Newcastle this Saturday on the Gold Coast


Looks like the overspending on players at the dogs is already biting hard.They have already let players on large contracts be subsidised and moved on Thompson will be another.
Thank goodness Hartigan is pulling the financial strings here

LOL it’s year 2 of this rebuild , how is that even possible ? Am I missing something ? How is that last placed pack , going to make the 8 with the addition of TPJ and …. A lot of backs . They can barely get over halfway most sets .
Thompson is , ok , I guess , but he’s hardly the “best prop in the world “ that was being brandished about a year or 2 ago.

Backs get you over the line , forwards get you to it in the first place .
Having 2 average nrl back lines take up 70% of your cap , is not smart business IMO . The game where Burton ran the show against us , should be an eye to how the dogs will go next year . Just my opinion , but until they change every last man in that forward pack , and find a 9 , they can buy the aus backline , that team is not winning anything .

Mate, I'm mostly agreeing with you but I rate Burton.... as anything but a half. Second receiver on he's a deadset gun. If they choose him to play half, good luck to them. And if they let Thompson go, they are completely insane. The only good forward they've got. You're on the money.

I’m not saying Burton is hopeless or anything like that , I’m just saying we saw the Penrith sidethat night , which is way better than anything the dogs will trot out next year , basically offer nothing because it was Burton and nothing else . He’s on a hiding to nothing . I give it round 10 before the TPJ of the distractions outside footy and TPJ make the papers . From memory , it was one of the reason he had to get out of nsw , and Brisbane was a fresh start . He found the same guys , on the GC . That’s thier forward leader .
Here , he wouldn’t have had to be that , he would have been a complimentary piece . An enhancement to our pack . But I’m actually glad he’s not here , as I was always worried about his influence .
I wish him all the best , but that’s just not happening at the dogs .
But hey who am I ? Just another bum hole with an opinion .

TPJ played for Canberra before Brisbane.

Are u confusing him with some one else?

Who cares if hes friends with bikies, lol. He's not an enforcer for em or anything ?

No , he’s from newy went to Canberra , and was having off field issues with both clubs , that was the run in him , from memory . I’m not confusing him with anyone .