Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[watersider]

This is too funny.
Bulldogs buying anyone they possibly can and have now maxed out their cap so much they are looking to offload one of their best players and subsidise him playing elsewhere.
On top of all of this they still have an average fullback and a poor halfback and hooker.
Gonna end in tears

Yeah, we've fallen for that one before.

 

[JC99]

Luke Thompson would be a quality signing - hard running prop who makes a good impact in the middle and average 140 metres a game

He'll get signed by Roosters surprise surprise. Waerea-Hargreaves is not far off retirement, they will sign Thompson to take his spot.

They’ll have money with Morris and Friend off the books. Despite that fact, watch everyone flip out when they sign replacements.

People don't use logic in these situations haha, they've lost a lot of players recently.

 

[Krammy]

Suli reignited his career under hasler....see if he can continue the form he had

There's no way I'd buy Suli. Talented, but lazy player - a bit like Owen Craigie.

 

[Ultimate Warrior]

Luke Thompson would be a quality signing - hard running prop who makes a good impact in the middle and average 140 metres a game

He'll get signed by Roosters surprise surprise. Waerea-Hargreaves is not far off retirement, they will sign Thompson to take his spot.

They’ll have money with Morris and Friend off the books. Despite that fact, watch everyone flip out when they sign replacements.

People don't use logic in these situations haha, they've lost a lot of players recently.

Plus Cordner

 

[hsvjones]

Luke Thompson would be a quality signing - hard running prop who makes a good impact in the middle and average 140 metres a game

He'll get signed by Roosters surprise surprise. Waerea-Hargreaves is not far off retirement, they will sign Thompson to take his spot.

They’ll have money with Morris and Friend off the books. Despite that fact, watch everyone flip out when they sign replacements.

People don't use logic in these situations haha, they've lost a lot of players recently.

Appreciate what you are saying but looking at the below 2022 player list you can see why people take the piss..
2022 -
Angus Crichton 720k
Luke Keary - 850k
Manu - 720k
Taukeiaho - 655k
Teddy - 1.1mil
JWH - 700k
Radley - 500k
Collins - 500k +
Suaalii - 500k
Daniel Tupou - 400k+
Watson 300k
Tupouniua - 500k+
Walker upgraded - 400k ?

So just those players for 2022 are on 7.84mil - 13 players and you need to fit the remaining 17 players in the cap.. Cap is around 10mil and min salary is 120k for next year I believe. The average for the 17 remaining players are 129k.

Now these are not 100% correct and not claiming to be an expert but you can see why people take the piss out of there cap and even there ex players do.

We as a club are striving to be in the position and working from the ground up and I believe we are starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel but IMO how is the salary cap working.. TPA need to stop or be capped.

You could also put Souths in this argument as well.

 

[supercoach]

Like with most years whispers of a few contracted players being shopped around. Be nice to pick up a Lomax or a Thompson…but we will be bridesmaids again and pick up the player who is offloaded to make space for the likes of Lomax or Thompson.

You really wonder if we will make any signings other than Flegg signings

 

[JC99]

Luke Thompson would be a quality signing - hard running prop who makes a good impact in the middle and average 140 metres a game

He'll get signed by Roosters surprise surprise. Waerea-Hargreaves is not far off retirement, they will sign Thompson to take his spot.

They’ll have money with Morris and Friend off the books. Despite that fact, watch everyone flip out when they sign replacements.

People don't use logic in these situations haha, they've lost a lot of players recently.

Appreciate what you are saying but looking at the below 2022 player list you can see why people take the piss..
2022 -
Angus Crichton 720k
Luke Keary - 850k
Manu - 720k
Taukeiaho - 655k
Teddy - 1.1mil
JWH - 700k
Radley - 500k
Collins - 500k +
Suaalii - 500k
Daniel Tupou - 400k+
Watson 300k
Tupouniua - 500k+
Walker upgraded - 400k ?

So just those players for 2022 are on 7.84mil - 13 players and you need to fit the remaining 17 players in the cap.. Cap is around 10mil and min salary is 120k for next year I believe. The average for the 17 remaining players are 129k.

Now these are not 100% correct and not claiming to be an expert but you can see why people take the piss out of there cap and even there ex players do.

We as a club are striving to be in the position and working from the ground up and I believe we are starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel but IMO how is the salary cap working.. TPA need to stop or be capped.

You could also put Souths in this argument as well.

These numbers are just guesses though - don't get me wrong I'm sure they dodgy the cap, as majority of teams would, but they're also wayyyyy smarter with how they manage their cap than other teams. Players will take pay cuts to go there as well as you're guaranteed success

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Every time a recruitment name is leaked to the media the manager uses us to load the bait on fishing lines.
And every time we are dumb enough to dedicate next two dozen pages building it up and then criticising the club for not signing the guy.
The Coach has been pretty clear that we in for the long game as far as recruitment is concerned …. young talent, reasonable offers with no overpayments to established players and talent build up in lower grades.
So Really people …… let’s try and rely on something solid before chasing mirages.
No wonder reliable sources like the Pom are reluctant to post until the cat is in the bag.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Just be careful, and if we sign Thompson from Dogs, heavily subsidised, please only do a 2 yr deal. Maybe 3 yrs with a club option.

We just got rid of MBye and Reynolds who we took on long term deals from the Dogs, let's think before jumping into another one.

Um did you read the news article?
He has 1yr with another year option as his call.
His manager wants longer than 2yrs

So for any club to grab him next year it would be a 4yr min deal.

 

[tony soprano]

NRL 2021: Bulldogs star Luke Thompson shopped to rivals, Dragons chase Origin star

Canterbury prop Luke Thompson has attracted interest from rival NRL clubs as his English-based manager looks to secure a long-term deal.
Dean Ritchie
,
Canterbury prop Luke Thompson has attracted interest from rival NRL clubs after his English-based manager could not secure a new, long-term deal with the Bulldogs.

While wanting him to complete his contract at Belmore, Canterbury would consider releasing Thompson early should he procure a lengthy deal elsewhere.

The Bulldogs know there is interest in Thompson.

Thompson has two years remaining on his current Bulldogs deal but his agent, Andy Clarke, has been contacting NRL clubs trying to gauge their interest in the giant British forward from 2024.

The Daily Telegraph has been told Wests Tigers have shown a keenness in Thompson, who earns around $850,000 a season.

Luke Thompson’s manager is trying secure his clients long-term future in Australia.
Clarke wants to nail down Thompson’s long-term future in Australia. He contacted Canterbury hoping the club would agree to an extension.

Yet with a crammed salary cap, Canterbury was unable to tell Clarke they could extend Thompson beyond his current deal. Thompson has an option his way for 2023.

If he can obtain a four-year deal for Thompson, Clarke may ask Canterbury for a release.

The Daily Telegraph has been told Canterbury is right on its salary cap limit for next season.

Rival clubs would want Canterbury to pay around $350,000 a year to take Thompson.

Canterbury can send out its new-look squad next season with any financial pressure but would struggle to sign any new players - or even upgrade a player - given how tight their salary cap has become.

New Bulldogs general manager of football, Phil Gould, is closely monitoring and reworking the club’s cap. Thompson leads the club’s stats every week but an early departure would free up some cash.

Luke Thompson has been one of the Bulldogs best forwards in 2021, but a move would free up salary cap space. Picture: Alix Sweeney.
Luke Thompson has been one of the Bulldogs best forwards in 2021, but a move would free up salary cap space. Picture: Alix Sweeney.
Canterbury is adamant Thompson is not being shopped around - it’s more Clarke trying to settle his client’s long-term NRL future.

Clarke is said to be looking “at all options”.

There are no guarantees Canterbury would allow Thompson to leave early but the club would carefully consider any approach.

There is at least one other Sydney club which has been approached about Thompson.

Thompson has told friends he wants to stay at Canterbury and be part of the expected revival next season.

The Bulldogs are open to moving a player or two while they work to reshape their salary cap. Canterbury has one spot open for next season.

Thompson has established himself among the finest forwards in the NRL desire playing in a wooden-spoon side. He overcame a bout of homesickness just last year.

In September last year, Thompson said: “I’m fully committed to the Bulldogs.”

Thompson will play prop in Canterbury’s match against Newcastle this Saturday on the Gold Coast


Looks like the overspending on players at the dogs is already biting hard.They have already let players on large contracts be subsidised and moved on Thompson will be another.
Thank goodness Hartigan is pulling the financial strings here

LOL it’s year 2 of this rebuild , how is that even possible ? Am I missing something ? How is that last placed pack , going to make the 8 with the addition of TPJ and …. A lot of backs . They can barely get over halfway most sets .
Thompson is , ok , I guess , but he’s hardly the “best prop in the world “ that was being brandished about a year or 2 ago.

Backs get you over the line , forwards get you to it in the first place .
Having 2 average nrl back lines take up 70% of your cap , is not smart business IMO . The game where Burton ran the show against us , should be an eye to how the dogs will go next year . Just my opinion , but until they change every last man in that forward pack , and find a 9 , they can buy the aus backline , that team is not winning anything .

Mate, I'm mostly agreeing with you but I rate Burton.... as anything but a half. Second receiver on he's a deadset gun. If they choose him to play half, good luck to them. And if they let Thompson go, they are completely insane. The only good forward they've got. You're on the money.

I’m not saying Burton is hopeless or anything like that , I’m just saying we saw the Penrith sidethat night , which is way better than anything the dogs will trot out next year , basically offer nothing because it was Burton and nothing else . He’s on a hiding to nothing . I give it round 10 before the TPJ of the distractions outside footy and TPJ make the papers . From memory , it was one of the reason he had to get out of nsw , and Brisbane was a fresh start . He found the same guys , on the GC . That’s thier forward leader .
Here , he wouldn’t have had to be that , he would have been a complimentary piece . An enhancement to our pack . But I’m actually glad he’s not here , as I was always worried about his influence .
I wish him all the best , but that’s just not happening at the dogs .
But hey who am I ? Just another bum hole with an opinion .

Wait bum hole?

 

[hsvjones]

Luke Thompson would be a quality signing - hard running prop who makes a good impact in the middle and average 140 metres a game

He'll get signed by Roosters surprise surprise. Waerea-Hargreaves is not far off retirement, they will sign Thompson to take his spot.

They’ll have money with Morris and Friend off the books. Despite that fact, watch everyone flip out when they sign replacements.

People don't use logic in these situations haha, they've lost a lot of players recently.

Appreciate what you are saying but looking at the below 2022 player list you can see why people take the piss..
2022 -
Angus Crichton 720k
Luke Keary - 850k
Manu - 720k
Taukeiaho - 655k
Teddy - 1.1mil
JWH - 700k
Radley - 500k
Collins - 500k +
Suaalii - 500k
Daniel Tupou - 400k+
Watson 300k
Tupouniua - 500k+
Walker upgraded - 400k ?

So just those players for 2022 are on 7.84mil - 13 players and you need to fit the remaining 17 players in the cap.. Cap is around 10mil and min salary is 120k for next year I believe. The average for the 17 remaining players are 129k.

Now these are not 100% correct and not claiming to be an expert but you can see why people take the piss out of there cap and even there ex players do.

We as a club are striving to be in the position and working from the ground up and I believe we are starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel but IMO how is the salary cap working.. TPA need to stop or be capped.

You could also put Souths in this argument as well.

These numbers are just guesses though - don't get me wrong I'm sure they dodgy the cap, as majority of teams would, but they're also wayyyyy smarter with how they manage their cap than other teams. Players will take pay cuts to go there as well as you're guaranteed success

Yes the figures I got from Zero tackle so not 100% i know that.
I can also understand why a player would go there for less to have success as I would also. The elephant in the room is they have other ways of making up for the salary drop and the NRL will never investigate this as no player is ever going to say anything. Partners getting paid, Golf club memberships paid, rent paid, etc.. etc.. etc... Yet the small clubs like us who offers a player that is leaving the club a job after footy gets hammered..

Anyway I know what you are saying and I think we have some very smart people making decisions as we are not paying overs anymore and it WILL turn I truly believe that.

 

[Demps]

NRL 2021: Bulldogs star Luke Thompson shopped to rivals, Dragons chase Origin star

Canterbury prop Luke Thompson has attracted interest from rival NRL clubs as his English-based manager looks to secure a long-term deal.
Dean Ritchie
,
Canterbury prop Luke Thompson has attracted interest from rival NRL clubs after his English-based manager could not secure a new, long-term deal with the Bulldogs.

While wanting him to complete his contract at Belmore, Canterbury would consider releasing Thompson early should he procure a lengthy deal elsewhere.

The Bulldogs know there is interest in Thompson.

Thompson has two years remaining on his current Bulldogs deal but his agent, Andy Clarke, has been contacting NRL clubs trying to gauge their interest in the giant British forward from 2024.

The Daily Telegraph has been told Wests Tigers have shown a keenness in Thompson, who earns around $850,000 a season.

Luke Thompson’s manager is trying secure his clients long-term future in Australia.
Clarke wants to nail down Thompson’s long-term future in Australia. He contacted Canterbury hoping the club would agree to an extension.

Yet with a crammed salary cap, Canterbury was unable to tell Clarke they could extend Thompson beyond his current deal. Thompson has an option his way for 2023.

If he can obtain a four-year deal for Thompson, Clarke may ask Canterbury for a release.

The Daily Telegraph has been told Canterbury is right on its salary cap limit for next season.

Rival clubs would want Canterbury to pay around $350,000 a year to take Thompson.

Canterbury can send out its new-look squad next season with any financial pressure but would struggle to sign any new players - or even upgrade a player - given how tight their salary cap has become.

New Bulldogs general manager of football, Phil Gould, is closely monitoring and reworking the club’s cap. Thompson leads the club’s stats every week but an early departure would free up some cash.

Luke Thompson has been one of the Bulldogs best forwards in 2021, but a move would free up salary cap space. Picture: Alix Sweeney.
Luke Thompson has been one of the Bulldogs best forwards in 2021, but a move would free up salary cap space. Picture: Alix Sweeney.
Canterbury is adamant Thompson is not being shopped around - it’s more Clarke trying to settle his client’s long-term NRL future.

Clarke is said to be looking “at all options”.

There are no guarantees Canterbury would allow Thompson to leave early but the club would carefully consider any approach.

There is at least one other Sydney club which has been approached about Thompson.

Thompson has told friends he wants to stay at Canterbury and be part of the expected revival next season.

The Bulldogs are open to moving a player or two while they work to reshape their salary cap. Canterbury has one spot open for next season.

Thompson has established himself among the finest forwards in the NRL desire playing in a wooden-spoon side. He overcame a bout of homesickness just last year.

In September last year, Thompson said: “I’m fully committed to the Bulldogs.”

Thompson will play prop in Canterbury’s match against Newcastle this Saturday on the Gold Coast


Looks like the overspending on players at the dogs is already biting hard.They have already let players on large contracts be subsidised and moved on Thompson will be another.
Thank goodness Hartigan is pulling the financial strings here

LOL it’s year 2 of this rebuild , how is that even possible ? Am I missing something ? How is that last placed pack , going to make the 8 with the addition of TPJ and …. A lot of backs . They can barely get over halfway most sets .
Thompson is , ok , I guess , but he’s hardly the “best prop in the world “ that was being brandished about a year or 2 ago.

Backs get you over the line , forwards get you to it in the first place .
Having 2 average nrl back lines take up 70% of your cap , is not smart business IMO . The game where Burton ran the show against us , should be an eye to how the dogs will go next year . Just my opinion , but until they change every last man in that forward pack , and find a 9 , they can buy the aus backline , that team is not winning anything .

Mate, I'm mostly agreeing with you but I rate Burton.... as anything but a half. Second receiver on he's a deadset gun. If they choose him to play half, good luck to them. And if they let Thompson go, they are completely insane. The only good forward they've got. You're on the money.

I’m not saying Burton is hopeless or anything like that , I’m just saying we saw the Penrith sidethat night , which is way better than anything the dogs will trot out next year , basically offer nothing because it was Burton and nothing else . He’s on a hiding to nothing . I give it round 10 before the TPJ of the distractions outside footy and TPJ make the papers . From memory , it was one of the reason he had to get out of nsw , and Brisbane was a fresh start . He found the same guys , on the GC . That’s thier forward leader .
Here , he wouldn’t have had to be that , he would have been a complimentary piece . An enhancement to our pack . But I’m actually glad he’s not here , as I was always worried about his influence .
I wish him all the best , but that’s just not happening at the dogs .
But hey who am I ? Just another bum hole with an opinion .

TPJ played for Canberra before Brisbane.

Are u confusing him with some one else?

Who cares if hes friends with bikies, lol. He's not an enforcer for em or anything ?

 

[tony soprano]

Patience is obviously no one's friend on this forum.

Have a little faith in the value for money approach we are undertaking.

Most of our good young players have been recruited the same way.

You're coming around, Pat

@tigerballs Sunia turuva on our radar?

Is he Any good mate

 

[Lukic]

Thompson is a maybe for me. Great player, but recent weeks have made be less certain of the need for a prop.

Tuilagi and Simpkins look like they'll be ready to make the jump as full-time first graders next year. Ofahengaue is a solid prop. Twal and Stefano can give us 50+ minutes a week with no worries. Mikaele and Musgrove can come off the bench and give us some real impact. Realistically, one of Hastings or Brooks is going to be coming off the bench in the 14 and playing the role of a third ball-player for at least 20 a game.

I mean he presents a tangible upgrade over everyone in the pack bar Stefano and Twal, but I don't think it's enough of an upgrade to justify a long-term deal on good money. Lomax would be a better option in terms of improving the squad, or saving up for a star like Brandon Smith or Joey Manu.

 

[Tigers4ever]

Luke Thompson would be a quality signing - hard running prop who makes a good impact in the middle and average 140 metres a game

He'll get signed by Roosters surprise surprise. Waerea-Hargreaves is not far off retirement, they will sign Thompson to take his spot.

They’ll have money with Morris and Friend off the books. Despite that fact, watch everyone flip out when they sign replacements.

They will pay Thompson and $100, 000 a year plus a brown bag!!!

 

[tony soprano]

Thompson is a maybe for me. Great player, but recent weeks have made be less certain of the need for a prop.

Tuilagi and Simpkins look like they'll be ready to make the jump as full-time first graders next year. Ofahengaue is a solid prop. Twal and Stefano can give us 50+ minutes a week with no worries. Mikaele and Musgrove can come off the bench and give us some real impact. Realistically, one of Hastings or Brooks is going to be coming off the bench in the 14 and playing the role of a third ball-player for at least 20 a game.

I mean he presents a tangible upgrade over everyone in the pack bar Stefano and Twal, but I don't think it's enough of an upgrade to justify a long-term deal on good money. Lomax would be a better option in terms of improving the squad, or saving up for a star like Brandon Smith or Joey Manu.

He like a suspension spends a lot of time off the field nightmare with the two year carry over points.

 

[boonboon]

6 spots left.

Back up fullback, centre/winger, prop, 2 backrowers, 1 utility/hooker

 

[Tigers4ever]

Thompson is a maybe for me. Great player, but recent weeks have made be less certain of the need for a prop.

Tuilagi and Simpkins look like they'll be ready to make the jump as full-time first graders next year. Ofahengaue is a solid prop. Twal and Stefano can give us 50+ minutes a week with no worries. Mikaele and Musgrove can come off the bench and give us some real impact. Realistically, one of Hastings or Brooks is going to be coming off the bench in the 14 and playing the role of a third ball-player for at least 20 a game.

I mean he presents a tangible upgrade over everyone in the pack bar Stefano and Twal, but I don't think it's enough of an upgrade to justify a long-term deal on good money. Lomax would be a better option in terms of improving the squad, or saving up for a star like Brandon Smith or Joey Manu.

Excellent post!!! On the money!!!

 

[Goanna57]

Just be careful, and if we sign Thompson from Dogs, heavily subsidised, please only do a 2 yr deal. Maybe 3 yrs with a club option.

We just got rid of MBye and Reynolds who we took on long term deals from the Dogs, let's think before jumping into another one.

I second that.
I could easily refute Paul Crawley’s opinion about the ‘MoneyBall’ Dragons.
How good is it to sign up a bunch of spare parts and squeeze them into a team when your still not going any better than the year before.
In addition to that St George’s young gun halves aren’t going to get much love now that MBye has joined them.
They’ve moved on Norman and bought MBye.
Meanwhile Clune has been let go.
Amone and Slone are on dev contracts for 2 more years.
Only Sullivan has been promoted to a first grade contract and word is he wants out.

Please. We’ve made a half decade of mistakes by signing other teams rejects.

Target the guns coming off contract that want a change of scenery and bring them in.

No more rejects.

Good idea easier said than done based on our recruitment record

 

[tigerballs]

Patience is obviously no one's friend on this forum.

Have a little faith in the value for money approach we are undertaking.

Most of our good young players have been recruited the same way.

You're coming around, Pat

@tigerballs Sunia turuva on our radar?

Sorry mate, no idea. Hope so!