Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[cochise]

Given the clubs position, we need to have a strong year, if say there should be a change of approach from hartigan

- need to fill all 30 spots by late this year, no leaving empty spots for later like last year. Need to give all players time to compete for spots and make combinations and learn defensive pattern

- all new signings need to be strong defenders

- 3 or 4 out of the 5 spots need to be natural leaders who are vocal and don't give up

- need to go hard (overs) on at least one player in 2022 or 23 who is a leader and will drive culture change but also change narrative for club

- no more problem children. Need players who set good example

I don't mind leaving a spot or 2 open ...you always seem to get a few blokes who decide that their club isn't what they want or need at the time ...if we can get some upgrades mid season ...I'm all for it

I get the idea - but last year we didn't sign anyone and just moved Tuilagi up (who could play 1st grade anyway). So we essentially played dteh season with one less payers and a lower salary cap than other teams.

What happens if we use all our spots and a player who could really help us becomes available? I don't mind a player being upgraded as it rewards someone for the effort they put in over the year. I feel the upgrade for Tuilagi was very well deserved.

 

[cochise]

We need to sign Scott.
Yes, not for overs and not in a bidding war.
The guy is only 23. Won a comp at 19.
If his head is right he will be QUALITY.
And we are beyond desperate for centres

Just my opinion - would not touch with a barge pole.

Some clubs, maybe could take a risk.

We are not in a position to take any more risks. We are still at least a year away of being competitive, depending on what they do with AD (5/8 for mine), we will have for next year, Talau, Gildardt, Kepaoa, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman and possibly Roberts.

Would not say we are beyond desperate, in need of, maybe. Could be worth a crack at Braidon Burns and if the talk on here has any legs that Zac Lomax is a chance, then that is about it for 2022. Look into possibilities for 2023 if we still need a centre, as there will be a few more available. Better than having to try for a halfwit (don't care how good or bad he is or how much he cost).

We are one of the clubs that MUST continue to take risks. Albeit considered and clever risks.

You are entitled to your opinion of course....

We take risks, we could end up with the equivalent of Mbye, Packer, Reynolds or a McQueen and that could just about finish the club permanently.

Worst thing we could do is panic and buy halfwits who will bury us.

Wait for the right people and trust in the youngsters I say.

They are not the risks we should be taking, a one year deal for someone who can improve the squad maybe a gamble but it is not one that hurts the club long term. The Roberts deal has not hurt the club.

 

[Snake]

Could be Thommo.

I would probably entertain a thomo for Musgrove swap.

I agree, I definitely would be down for that. With Thommo what you see is what you get. Mus is largely and unknown and has so far failed to live up to any hype. Seems to have regular long term injury woes which have prevented him hitting any real form. Thommo is quality, hard hitting and hard running.

I would like thommo as a strong experienced first leader.

But don't think the club would swap Musgrove. He only signed a long term deal last year, apparently for understanding what dragons offered him because he wanted to play under madge.

He had that shocker against Parramatta but had a sesson ending injury from that game so assume he was injured affected.

Would like to see Musgrove with a full preseason and a string of games to establish himself. He's strong and aggressive which is what we need

Musgrove has been extremely unlucky with injuries, this years trials and the all stars game I thought he was a standout. I hope he gets a full pre season and I good run with injuries, he is huge and aggressive he will surprise a lot of people and he is definitely just the forward we need

Always injured

Yes Reynolds / Packer were busted well I think Musgrove is fast reaching that milestone .

 

[cochise]

He’s got $1.6m to bring to the party but the party is over. All trading is done. All that’s left is rejects/swap deals from other clubs and the bargain basement bin, good luck in there!

Yes, the unsigned market is dross. But surely you know there will be plenty of signings across the NRL before kickoff next year? Mostly from players who sign for 2023 and get released early.

I can’t see that happening at all. Everyone goes on about early releases but I’ll be willing to bet there are none.

None across the NRL? I'd take that bet.

 

[happy_tiger]

Given the clubs position, we need to have a strong year, if say there should be a change of approach from hartigan

- need to fill all 30 spots by late this year, no leaving empty spots for later like last year. Need to give all players time to compete for spots and make combinations and learn defensive pattern

- all new signings need to be strong defenders

- 3 or 4 out of the 5 spots need to be natural leaders who are vocal and don't give up

- need to go hard (overs) on at least one player in 2022 or 23 who is a leader and will drive culture change but also change narrative for club

- no more problem children. Need players who set good example

I would always leave one spot open.

Yep ...how much game time would have Tuilagi got in the NRL squad ......always leave at least 1 spot open

 

[Masterton]

He’s got $1.6m to bring to the party but the party is over. All trading is done. All that’s left is rejects/swap deals from other clubs and the bargain basement bin, good luck in there!

Yes, the unsigned market is dross. But surely you know there will be plenty of signings across the NRL before kickoff next year? Mostly from players who sign for 2023 and get released early.

I can’t see that happening at all. Everyone goes on about early releases but I’ll be willing to bet there are none.

None across the NRL? I'd take that bet.

Aloiai, Offa, Sualli, Clifford, baby Sirro, Sue, Momo and Laurie all happened post-season last year, and that's just off the top of my head.

Not all good, but plenty of movement. I imagine the lack of quality free agents may exacerbate that.

 

[cochise]

Given the clubs position, we need to have a strong year, if say there should be a change of approach from hartigan

- need to fill all 30 spots by late this year, no leaving empty spots for later like last year. Need to give all players time to compete for spots and make combinations and learn defensive pattern

- all new signings need to be strong defenders

- 3 or 4 out of the 5 spots need to be natural leaders who are vocal and don't give up

- need to go hard (overs) on at least one player in 2022 or 23 who is a leader and will drive culture change but also change narrative for club

- no more problem children. Need players who set good example

I would always leave one spot open.

Yep ...how much game time would have Tuilagi got in the NRL squad ......always leave at least 1 spot open

I think the argument that it leaves your squad short is a furphy anyway, we used to have squads of 25, we now have squads of 30, plus development players that are allowed to be used once past a certain point and this year they allowed 2nd tier players to play. Having an NRL spot or 2 vacant has no impact in any true sense.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Haha yeah, haven’t been able to shake “ferret” for over 25 years in my local sporting circles

lol. There are only a few ways to get a ferret nickname and not many are good.

Bahahaha, I’ve been assured it’s a term of endearment. ??

 

[cochise]

He’s got $1.6m to bring to the party but the party is over. All trading is done. All that’s left is rejects/swap deals from other clubs and the bargain basement bin, good luck in there!

Yes, the unsigned market is dross. But surely you know there will be plenty of signings across the NRL before kickoff next year? Mostly from players who sign for 2023 and get released early.

I can’t see that happening at all. Everyone goes on about early releases but I’ll be willing to bet there are none.

None across the NRL? I'd take that bet.

Aloiai, Offa, Sualli, Clifford, baby Sirro, Sue, Momo and Laurie all happened post-season last year, and that's just off the top of my head.

Not all good, but plenty of movement. I imagine the lack of quality free agents may exacerbate that.

Agree 100% mate.

 

[frullens]

Given the clubs position, we need to have a strong year, if say there should be a change of approach from hartigan

- need to fill all 30 spots by late this year, no leaving empty spots for later like last year. Need to give all players time to compete for spots and make combinations and learn defensive pattern

- all new signings need to be strong defenders

- 3 or 4 out of the 5 spots need to be natural leaders who are vocal and don't give up

- need to go hard (overs) on at least one player in 2022 or 23 who is a leader and will drive culture change but also change narrative for club

- no more problem children. Need players who set good example

I don't mind leaving a spot or 2 open ...you always seem to get a few blokes who decide that their club isn't what they want or need at the time ...if we can get some upgrades mid season ...I'm all for it

I get the idea - but last year we didn't sign anyone and just moved Tuilagi up (who could play 1st grade anyway). So we essentially played dteh season with one less payers and a lower salary cap than other teams.

What happens if we use all our spots and a player who could really help us becomes available? I don't mind a player being upgraded as it rewards someone for the effort they put in over the year. I feel the upgrade for Tuilagi was very well deserved.

After the review, the start of 2022 is critical for the club - if we have a bad start and the club panicks sacks the coach - the year is wasted.

Remember next year we have AD out for the start, we have Laurie returning from injury and Hastings and Gillart coming at some point from UK.

Obviously I wouldn't fill the squad if there arent strong and suitable players. But the priority should be to have the strongest squad possible for the start if the year. If there's 5 strong signings in November- great!

 

[cochise]

Given the clubs position, we need to have a strong year, if say there should be a change of approach from hartigan

- need to fill all 30 spots by late this year, no leaving empty spots for later like last year. Need to give all players time to compete for spots and make combinations and learn defensive pattern

- all new signings need to be strong defenders

- 3 or 4 out of the 5 spots need to be natural leaders who are vocal and don't give up

- need to go hard (overs) on at least one player in 2022 or 23 who is a leader and will drive culture change but also change narrative for club

- no more problem children. Need players who set good example

I don't mind leaving a spot or 2 open ...you always seem to get a few blokes who decide that their club isn't what they want or need at the time ...if we can get some upgrades mid season ...I'm all for it

I get the idea - but last year we didn't sign anyone and just moved Tuilagi up (who could play 1st grade anyway). So we essentially played dteh season with one less payers and a lower salary cap than other teams.

What happens if we use all our spots and a player who could really help us becomes available? I don't mind a player being upgraded as it rewards someone for the effort they put in over the year. I feel the upgrade for Tuilagi was very well deserved.

After the review, the start of 2022 is critical for the club - if we have a bad start and the club panicks sacks the coach - the year is wasted.

Remember next year we have AD out for the start, we have Laurie returning from injury and Hastings and Gillart coming at some point from UK.

Obviously I wouldn't fill the squad if there arent strong and suitable players. But the priority should be to have the strongest squad possible for the start if the year. If there's 5 strong signings in November- great!

And if we hit April and Harry Grant has a falling out with Craig Bellamy and is given permission to leave?

 

[Masterton]

And if we hit April and Harry Grant has a falling out with Craig Bellamy and is given permission to leave?

Then the odds of a Roosters premiership shorten.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

He’s got $1.6m to bring to the party but the party is over. All trading is done. All that’s left is rejects/swap deals from other clubs and the bargain basement bin, good luck in there!

Yes, the unsigned market is dross. But surely you know there will be plenty of signings across the NRL before kickoff next year? Mostly from players who sign for 2023 and get released early.

I can’t see that happening at all. Everyone goes on about early releases but I’ll be willing to bet there are none.

None across the NRL? I'd take that bet.

Early releases for 2023? You’re on

 

[GNR4LIFE]

He’s got $1.6m to bring to the party but the party is over. All trading is done. All that’s left is rejects/swap deals from other clubs and the bargain basement bin, good luck in there!

Yes, the unsigned market is dross. But surely you know there will be plenty of signings across the NRL before kickoff next year? Mostly from players who sign for 2023 and get released early.

I can’t see that happening at all. Everyone goes on about early releases but I’ll be willing to bet there are none.

None across the NRL? I'd take that bet.

Aloiai, Offa, Sualli, Clifford, baby Sirro, Sue, Momo and Laurie all happened post-season last year, and that's just off the top of my head.

Not all good, but plenty of movement. I imagine the lack of quality free agents may exacerbate that.

That’s not what I was disputing. There will be a lot movement for 2022. It’s early releases for players who sign for 2023 is what I was referring to.

 

[cochise]

He’s got $1.6m to bring to the party but the party is over. All trading is done. All that’s left is rejects/swap deals from other clubs and the bargain basement bin, good luck in there!

Yes, the unsigned market is dross. But surely you know there will be plenty of signings across the NRL before kickoff next year? Mostly from players who sign for 2023 and get released early.

I can’t see that happening at all. Everyone goes on about early releases but I’ll be willing to bet there are none.

None across the NRL? I'd take that bet.

Aloiai, Offa, Sualli, Clifford, baby Sirro, Sue, Momo and Laurie all happened post-season last year, and that's just off the top of my head.

Not all good, but plenty of movement. I imagine the lack of quality free agents may exacerbate that.

That’s not what I was disputing. There will be a lot movement for 2022. It’s early releases for players who sign for 2023 is what I was referring to.

So the Laurie case from this year as a prime example?

 

[Masterton]

That’s not what I was disputing. There will be a lot movement for 2022. It’s early releases for players who sign for 2023 is what I was referring to.

Clifford signed for next year. Laurie signed for next year. I reckon Aloiai had agreed for Manly next year when he started agitating. Didn't Penrith let one of their players go to Dogs early?

 

[cochise]

That’s not what I was disputing. There will be a lot movement for 2022. It’s early releases for players who sign for 2023 is what I was referring to.

Clifford signed for next year. Laurie signed for next year. I reckon Aloiai has agreed for Manly next year when he started agitating.

That is the information the club had.

 

[Sunset Highway]

I think Clifford at the right money would be a given Doueihi is going to miss a fair bit of football.

 

[happy_tiger]

I think Clifford at the right money would be a given Doueihi is going to miss a fair bit of football.

Clifford is signed at Newcastle ...isn't he ??

 

[TheDaBoss]

Maybe the big signing is copper cronk as assistant coach

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