Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[yeahcaz]

If Burns is really going Dogs surely that means they are getting rid of Cotric?

Dufty
JAC
Naden
Cotric
Schoop
Allan
Burns
Okunbor

Thats 8 outside backs who would all be on decent enough NRL money

Nah they’re gonna get 8 more

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The Braidon Burns mail looks bang on. Just had a quick squiz at The Kennel and they're pretty certain it's true.

I thought Burns was very close to retiring due to ongoing injury. I guess a final payday from the Bulldogs will help.

Burns has always struck me as a player who can create half a chance but will never convert. I believe we can do better.

 

[Tiger5150]

The Braidon Burns mail looks bang on. Just had a quick squiz at The Kennel and they're pretty certain it's true.

I thought Burns was very close to retiring due to ongoing injury. I guess a final payday from the Bulldogs will help.

Burns has always struck me as a player who can create half a chance but will never convert. I believe we can do better.

Poor mans Momo....

 

[hank37w]

Maybe the big signing is copper cronk as assistant coach

?

Is he a federal or state copper .....

and GRONK is spelt incorrectly.

 

[YesHeCheeKam]

TITANIC PAY CUT: Former
@GCTitans
Ash Taylor is close to taking a $900,000 pay cut to continue his NRL career. He is set to sign a train-and-trial contract with
@NZWarriors
- taking his salary from $20,000/wk to just $1000/wk in the hope of securing a 2022 deal. #NRL
@cmail_sport

 

[Tiger5150]

TITANIC PAY CUT: Former
@GCTitans
Ash Taylor is close to taking a $900,000 pay cut to continue his NRL career. He is set to sign a train-and-trial contract with
@NZWarriors
- taking his salary from $20,000/wk to just $1000/wk in the hope of securing a 2022 deal. #NRL
@cmail_sport

Would be worth "swooping" in to steal him with a minimum wage contract.

 

[JC99]

Bulldogs want a team of just centres, wingers and fullbacks it seems

 

[YesHeCheeKam]

TITANIC PAY CUT: Former
@GCTitans
Ash Taylor is close to taking a $900,000 pay cut to continue his NRL career. He is set to sign a train-and-trial contract with
@NZWarriors
- taking his salary from $20,000/wk to just $1000/wk in the hope of securing a 2022 deal. #NRL
@cmail_sport

Would be worth "swooping" in to steal him with a minimum wage contract.

100%. At minimum wage, most clubs have guys who contribute very little. So even if Taylor doesn't play a game, its just a minimum contract player who opens up more money for other contracts

 

[Camel2281]

Brooks out, Taylor in whispers from the club... i don't know how i feel about this. There is no improvement.

Slight improvement in playing quality. Massive improvement in Salary Cap cost if we don't have to chip in too much to offload the Gnome

 

[Camel2281]

Braidon Burns to the bulldogs. 2 year deal (DT)

They must be offloading someone as Gus himself said they are done with recruitment for 2022 and only 1 spot left for a Min wage.. Maybe Thompson been released ??

That was before they sacked Elliott

Asiata was signed using the Elliott Money

 

[tigerap]

Brooks out, Taylor in whispers from the club... i don't know how i feel about this. There is no improvement.

The only players who wouldn’t be an improvement on Brooks is Lewis and Croft. Anyone else I’m keen to take the gamble on, especially for such low money. Brooks has to leave

If Brooks is not a Madge fan, move him on and free up the Cap space.....but who will take him and how much will we have to chip in....... :-(...swap Brooks for Lomax... 🙂

 

[DJG]

I would love for a Jason Taumalolo signing..

we pay 850K , cowboys pay 150K a year till end of his 10 years to sign with us.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Nananana NANANANA

Hey hey

Brooksbyeee

 

[hank37w]

I would love for a Jason Taumalolo signing..

we pay 850K , cowboys pay 150K a year till end of his 10 years to sign with us.

For a guy that plays the way he does, I would think that he would be broken before the 10 years is up.

 

[WT46]

Brooks out, Taylor in whispers from the club... i don't know how i feel about this. There is no improvement.

where you hearing this from mate? very interesting if so.

westslifepod on twitter. his co-hosts are major sponsors of the club

 

[WT46]

Brooks out, Taylor in whispers from the club... i don't know how i feel about this. There is no improvement.

I'm not sure how good your source is but this wouldn't surprise me at all. It was reported that Brooks was one of the players who didn't support Madge. With Madge staying you would think the relationship would be untenable.

Heard from westslifepod on twitter. his co-hosts are major sponsors of the club.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Brooks out, Taylor in whispers from the club... i don't know how i feel about this. There is no improvement.

I'm not sure how good your source is but this wouldn't surprise me at all. It was reported that Brooks was one of the players who didn't support Madge. With Madge staying you would think the relationship would be untenable.

Heard from westslifepod on twitter. his co-hosts are major sponsors of the club.

Thanks. That guy hasn't got a great hit rate. He said he'd eat his shoe if Latrell didn't sign (he ended up filming himself licking it)

 

[avocadoontoast]

Brooks out, Taylor in whispers from the club... i don't know how i feel about this. There is no improvement.

I'm not sure how good your source is but this wouldn't surprise me at all. It was reported that Brooks was one of the players who didn't support Madge. With Madge staying you would think the relationship would be untenable.

Heard from westslifepod on twitter. his co-hosts are major sponsors of the club.

Thanks. That guy hasn't got a great hit rate. He said he'd eat his shoe if Latrell didn't sign (he ended up filming himself licking it)

 

[jirskyr]

> > > > > I felt at the time it was a nervous knee jerk reaction by the club due to Dragons offering him about the same. 2yrs max at that stage would have been more than fair, possibly even 1yr with a 2nd in clubs favour given there was no real extended periods of form to gauge him off.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Depends on the value of the deal. If it's a long-term cheap extension, or with incentives for better / continued performance, then I am fine with that.
> > > >
> > > > It's like Jimmy Jet - very little return in 2021, but at very low cost, so there's not much risk associated with it. Musgrove would be the same if he's not overly expensive but is locked in. Otherwise you are constantly rotating your backups every 2 years and you don't have much consistency of the system.
> > > >
> > > > Clearly Madge knows Musgrove from his Souths days, brought him over, waited for his ban to conclude, then re-signed him: so Madge rates his potential long-term value. Musgrove is also arguably rock-bottom price right now, i.e. we are buying in at the low end of his potential cost.
> > > >
> > > > It's the long-term high-cost signings we need to worry about. Musgrove is easily above reserve-grade level, so there's no argument that he cannot be a good backup option. These are "Benji-Lite" type deals where there capability of the player is established, and you agree to the cost/risk relationship of having them as backup, or potentially Top 17 if form / injuries warrant.
> > > >
> > > > Bearing in mind also if we want to retain Stefano long-term and perhaps partner him with another notable prop, we are going to need much cheaper but decent-quality, reliable, in-system backups (if you are going to invest $700-900K on your top-tier prop).
> > >
> > > So Musgrove is on a long term deal on over 400k, is that a low risk contract to you?
> >
> > We don't know what he is on. We never will. I don't get into speculation about possible deal values. I'll let the club consider low / medium / high costs.
>
> If you don't know what he is on how do you know we got him at "arguably rock bottom price"?

I didn't say we got him at rock bottom price, I said he is "arguably at rock bottom price right now" and "we are buying in at the low end of his potential cost". This is based on having played only 11 games in the past 4 years, some well-documented off-field incidents and the fact that Madge is the only coach he's ever had.

You would have to assume that if Musgrove was playing good footy for several consecutive seasons, he'd be more expensive than he is right now.

Of course Tigers could be paying excessive or stupid money for Musgrove, but I doubt the market pressures or stupidity currently exist for that to happen. The extended contract occurred during the current management tenure (Pascoe / Madge / Hartigan), and typically we have been doing deals on the cheap within this tenure (even to the point of being accused of refusing to compete with other clubs on certain signatures).

 

[avocadoontoast]

I felt at the time it was a nervous knee jerk reaction by the club due to Dragons offering him about the same. 2yrs max at that stage would have been more than fair, possibly even 1yr with a 2nd in clubs favour given there was no real extended periods of form to gauge him off.


Depends on the value of the deal. If it's a long-term cheap extension, or with incentives for better / continued performance, then I am fine with that.

It's like Jimmy Jet - very little return in 2021, but at very low cost, so there's not much risk associated with it. Musgrove would be the same if he's not overly expensive but is locked in. Otherwise you are constantly rotating your backups every 2 years and you don't have much consistency of the system.

Clearly Madge knows Musgrove from his Souths days, brought him over, waited for his ban to conclude, then re-signed him: so Madge rates his potential long-term value. Musgrove is also arguably rock-bottom price right now, i.e. we are buying in at the low end of his potential cost.

It's the long-term high-cost signings we need to worry about. Musgrove is easily above reserve-grade level, so there's no argument that he cannot be a good backup option. These are "Benji-Lite" type deals where there capability of the player is established, and you agree to the cost/risk relationship of having them as backup, or potentially Top 17 if form / injuries warrant.

Bearing in mind also if we want to retain Stefano long-term and perhaps partner him with another notable prop, we are going to need much cheaper but decent-quality, reliable, in-system backups (if you are going to invest $700-900K on your top-tier prop).

So Musgrove is on a long term deal on over 400k, is that a low risk contract to you?

We don't know what he is on. We never will. I don't get into speculation about possible deal values. I'll let the club consider low / medium / high costs.

If you don't know what he is on how do you know we got him at "arguably rock bottom price"?

I didn't say we got him at rock bottom price, I said he is "arguably at rock bottom price right now" and "we are buying in at the low end of his potential cost". This is based on having played only 11 games in the past 4 years, some well-documented off-field incidents and the fact that Madge is the only coach he's ever had.

You would have to assume that if Musgrove was playing good footy for several consecutive seasons, he'd be more expensive than he is right now.

Of course Tigers could be paying excessive or stupid money for Musgrove, but I doubt the market pressures or stupidity currently exist for that to happen. The extended contract occurred during the current management tenure (Pascoe / Madge / Hartigan), and typically we have been doing deals on the cheap within this tenure (even to the point of being accused of refusing to compete with other clubs on certain signatures).

You're making an awful lot of assumptions there.