@wt2k said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1492659) said:
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Wests Tigers have just parted ways with GM Adam Hartigan, who brought Laurie, Stefano and Blore to the club.
Sheens now calling the shots. Bizarre move. The club’s only shining light has been the recruitment and development of the youth.
https://twitter.com/MichaelChammas/status/1448814616759341086?t=ojvf72P1nR838bTxPcTRhg&s=19
Anyone else think Chammas just lost his inside source.
Our biggest problem has been recruitment and Hartigan was in charge of it. Our 2nd biggest problems was leaks.
2 birds on stone
How could a person who came from one of the most successful clubs in the game and with a record of success be the problem? And we bring back a plodder from the dead.
I don't normally get on the negativity nelly bandwagon but this club is bonkers if true.
The replacement is dumb granted but the best clubs don’t let go of people like that if they’re so important
In 'normal' circumstances I would agree.
This is the Wests Tigers we are talking about. Cochise has basically stated he is one of now three 'rats' that were caught in the leak trap. I'm not denying that may be true but it just sounds eerily familiar for us. Is it just Sheens is getting the band back together? Heaven help us if it is.
I have never in my life said that, Hartigan was one of the real assets of this club.
Sincere apologies - it was InnsaneInk.
Actually think it was Demps
pretty sure it was @cochise
I never called Hartigan a rat
Question though....
If all is true regarding Hartigan slamming the coach and agitating behind the scene
And despite him being an asset in some way to the club...
Would it be fair to assume its better for team and club harmony and long term success of our club for him not to be part of our organisation ?
A hell of a lot of ifs and assumptions in your post Demps. Hartigan to the club was a huge asset. Unfortunately the wrong individual is going.
You wanted Sheens back... It came at a price.
I thought when he signed his role would end up being more than just pathways but I didn't think he'd be given this much power. Seems like he's in charge of everything.
I think given the club administration's lack of ability to run a successful club, I'd argue we have no choice but to give him that power. I'd rather Sheens with that control than Pascoe or Hartigan or any other blow in that we brought in.
Sheens started this whole spiral. He was the one at the helm when we had the cattle and failed year after year, he was the one that got sacked initially, he was the one that buggered up the cap first time around, he was the one that ended up taking us to court. Since then, we've never recovered. Im not sure how the club gets us out of the mess, but I have little faith in Sheens being the guy to do it. The love for him bewilders me. 2005 was a long time ago. Anyway, thats how I see it. Feel free to rip in. And......GO.
You point out that the club has never recovered from Sheens and he's the source of the club's downward spiral. Irregardless of the fact we still had a successful junior pathways systems subsequent to his sacking. Or a core of very talented players (including juniors) in our system in 2017 - some of who were also a part of the succession plan from his coaching term.
The $950K he paid Farah is long gone.
There's been 3 other players who we've spent similar amounts of money on despite their low impact/influence on the team - Mbye, Packer, Reynolds - plus a coach that brought us to our knees and tarnished the brand/image of the club even worse than before.
No offence mate but there's a perpetual victimhood mentality, within the supporter base, that would rather bury its head in the sand than acknowledge how the club's management (and the division within in it) is cause for our major problems.
It has made persistent error after error and is responsible for the club's further disintegration.
I know I'm personally tired of blaming players and coaches. Or being angry for anyone that does or says anything negative or disrespectful to or about the club but we're in our current state because of them, previous and current.
It's sad to see all this misdirected anger or hurt because while other clubs are getting better because their fans ask the right questions, some of ours are still demanding answers about the past.
It does little to comfort us or change the outcome of our future. What's done is done.
The questions about the past have been asked because we are returning to it. I am happy to have Sheens back but am worried about him having too much control over what we do. I want to build a side that is up near the top for a long time, not a couple of flashes in the pan.