Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@formerguest said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524101) said:
@mighty_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524068) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524052) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524051) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523992) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523888) said:
@tigerjunior4 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523885) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523809) said:
@crazycat said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523798) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522568) said:
@crazycat said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522566) said:
@stryker-69 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522520) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522519) said:
@stryker-69 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522417) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522300) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522223) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

He never said he was the best halfback that year, just that he was halfback of the year, which he was.

The anti Brooks brigade have become like the anti vax brigade. They aren’t interested in having rational conversation, they just want to scream in your face and dismiss any facts that don’t back their argument.

Which facts?
Any fact supports our stance that a lump of drift wood would perform better.
It amuses me that his only supporters in the whole NRL fan base are a tiny minority of Tigers men. Everyone else laughs at him trying to play.

I pointed out the FACT that Luke Brooks won halfback of the year under our previous coach, in reply to the comment that Brooks had a problem with the last 3 coaches.

You replied saying if I thought Brooks was the best halfback in the comp I knew nothing about the game.

Newcastle, a club who actually played finals this year want him. Andrew Johns wants him at the knights and believes they can make him a better player. Why can’t we?

I don’t know, why can’t we?
Many have tried, all have failed.



@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522519) said:
@stryker-69 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522417) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522300) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522223) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

He never said he was the best halfback that year, just that he was halfback of the year, which he was.

The anti Brooks brigade have become like the anti vax brigade. They aren’t interested in having rational conversation, they just want to scream in your face and dismiss any facts that don’t back their argument.

Which facts?
Any fact supports our stance that a lump of drift wood would perform better.
It amuses me that his only supporters in the whole NRL fan base are a tiny minority of Tigers men. Everyone else laughs at him trying to play.

I pointed out the FACT that Luke Brooks won halfback of the year under our previous coach, in reply to the comment that Brooks had a problem with the last 3 coaches.

You replied saying if I thought Brooks was the best halfback in the comp I knew nothing about the game.

Newcastle, a club who actually played finals this year want him. Andrew Johns wants him at the knights and believes they can make him a better player. Why can’t we?

I don’t know, why can’t we?
Many have tried and failed.

Lets look at Brooks:
When he first came with Voldemort, they became known as the Turnstyles. No defense and we were conceding tries in the middle.
What we have seen is Brooks up the ante in Defense, he has gotten a lot better.

Then Coach Voldemort punts Robbie Farah because he wants a hooker who will give good early ball to nr7. This never worked for us. It was said of Des Haslier that at the dogs he changed to adapt with the players strengths and we needed that. Well Coach Voldemort had one gameplan and one only punting Pat Richards who was playing the house down.

Brooks has had Sheens, Potter, Voldemort, Cleary, McGuire. On top of this Brett Kimmorley worked as a coaching assistant with us. All of them have tried different styles, many tried different hookers and it's the same.

Brooks is a great player, but poor halfback. He is a poor halfback because he won't organise or boss the team into position. Why? He isn't that guy! He is shy and humble. Maybe Johns can coach it into him, maybe not! We can't so stop putting the square peg into the round hole.

Hopefully Brooks gells with Hastings. Either they swap positions or Hastings steers the team from 5/8. It will take 5 rounds for us to see if this works or is a total failure, they will need time to Gel. It will also be hard because Madge is inflexible too and I am unsure how Brooks+Hastings+Madge will work together.

That said, by round 10 if Brooks and Hastings has't worked PUNT BROOKS. Let him go to the knights, England wherever. Our team needs structure.

Is Voldemort Jason Taylor or Ivan at this point? I've lost track.

You forgot the rule, dont say his name!

Also for me its JT.
Yes I wish Ivan stayed for 4 years even just to see what the team would look like. He seemed to be a great people manager, a hopeless talent picker
A better coach then I expected.

JT 100% evil. Broke up the Wests Tigers. Did not teach anyone to kick yet was a high scoring goal kicker himself! Would have been happy to keep Mick Potter for those 2 years.

Fair enough. My view is Ivan is a good coach but an awful human being.

JT did his best but was massively out of his depth and had no idea what he was doing. I blame the board for hiring him in the first place.

I remember JT got the head coaches position over Griffin because the board were impressed with his presentation and his stated commitment to focus on junior development.

He absolutely decimated our junior pathways. We used to be fairly competitive in under 20s every year and by 2017, we were getting flogged 84 - 6. He let some talented players walk out and failed to get the best out of youngsters who were blooded under Potter. The Farah debacle was pretty horrible and was handled terribly. Tossing aside a club captain like that didn’t make the club look like an attractive option to players.

Personally my least liked coach in WT history.

Truth,

Really don't like how he outcasted sirro senior and got rid of blokes like Farah to make his job safer.

Marina go in my view was as bad as JT. Took a while to reverse her work.

Go was appointed by NRL CEO Smith, no doubt had an agenda from the NRL….to weaken the club to the point it folds

All this rubbish. Go is the best Chair went ever had. By a long way. She brought us from a small club that lost money and had a disfunctional board that argued amongst themselves constantly to be a much richer club with stability. Sure we haven't been successful and our board make poor decisions but we're in a fast better position than we were before she started.

Too bad profit and loss doesn't get us to the finals. She was terrible.

She wasn’t terrible.
Wasn’t her job to recruit, coach and win games.
Her job was to get us into a self sufficient running football club. Considering we didn’t play finals during all that time and what she did was actually amazing and defied the odds. People just see footy field results as the be all end all and being a professional sporting club is far more than that these days.

An appointment rather than a signing, yet arguably the most important and beneficial in the club's history. Overseeing the change of ownership, bringing the organisation to profitability and instrumental in completing the deal for our soon to open COE. Leaving the entity in by far it's best state, with a clean slate and development program for it's future.

Marina was asked to stay for a few extra months when Pascoe copped his six month suspension for his further role in the Farah debacle. Having then led the club right up until all preparations for the 2019 season had been completed, only then did she step aside. Since WT have had the wine receiving from our director former Premier and the hat wearing lawyer guiding us.

Probably not simply coincidence either that our side has gone backwards in the two seasons that Go had no direct influence over.


I think that Go would have stayed if she hadn't been white anted over the Pascoe/Farah afair.
She wanted to fight Turdberg over the penalties imposed on the club only to be back stabbed by a couple of board members.
The Chairman/person isn't there to sign players or coach, they are there to direct the COE on the direction the club needs to go in and make sure that it in a strong financial position.
Which she did a good job.
 
Funny - I recall the Marina Go years as some of the most embarrassing and depressing years of the clubs history. While I don't hold her responsible for the debacle that we were, there is nothing about her tenure that I would want to revisit. Not sure she would want to either.
 
@fade-to-black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524111) said:
@merlot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523726) said:
Featherstone Rovers about to herald the arrival of nrl powerhouse[?]center Joey Luilua this week

You misspelt shithouse.

Another one of our great signings - loose cannon.
 
@leichhardttiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523730) said:
@merlot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523726) said:
Featherstone Rovers about to herald the arrival of nrl powerhouse[?]center Joey Luilua this week

Is BJ Double Zingered?

Ready for the Big Bucket Booster.
 
@cobarcats said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524139) said:
@fade-to-black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524111) said:
@merlot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523726) said:
Featherstone Rovers about to herald the arrival of nrl powerhouse[?]center Joey Luilua this week

You misspelt shithouse.

Another one of our great signings - loose cannon.

Just an absolute useless performer for us. Will go down in WT history with Bwaith.

BJ's one and only decent game for us was his 1st: the Warriors trial. After that just pure mud.
 
@merlot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523824) said:
wonder who was our talent scout back in the Potter days,we punched above our weight

I think Potter was a very under rated coach, really felt for him the way that he was treated.

Would have liked to have seen Mick Potter given some funds and a say in recruitment without that scum bag Grant Mayer constantly interfering.
 
@hank37w said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524149) said:
@merlot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523824) said:
wonder who was our talent scout back in the Potter days,we punched above our weight

I think Potter was a very under rated coach, really felt for him the way that he was treated.

Would have liked to have seen Mick Potter given some funds and a say in recruitment without that scum bag Grant Mayer constantly interfering.

Agree about Potter.
Can only go on what info was leaked to us fans about what led to his mistreatment and ultimate sacking but there was a common denominator in all the Sheens, Potter and Taylor dramas: Robbie and Benji.
As much as I absolutely respect what they did for our club on the field and to raise its profile in general, the power that they seemingly wielded over all happenings at the club greatly set us back in the last few years. They seemingly were allowed to run their own show and whoever got them offside was a dead man walking.
 
@fade-to-black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524143) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524142) said:
Jurno says expects Reece Hoffman expects to get a release

Not too sad about that. Replace him with quality.

Maybe to bring back Hill...?
 
@fade-to-black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524155) said:
@hank37w said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524149) said:
@merlot said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523824) said:
wonder who was our talent scout back in the Potter days,we punched above our weight

I think Potter was a very under rated coach, really felt for him the way that he was treated.

Would have liked to have seen Mick Potter given some funds and a say in recruitment without that scum bag Grant Mayer constantly interfering.

Agree about Potter.
Can only go on what info was leaked to us fans about what led to his mistreatment and ultimate sacking but there was a common denominator in all the Sheens, Potter and Taylor dramas: Robbie and Benji.
As much as I absolutely respect what they did for our club on the field and to raise its profile in general, the power that they seemingly wielded over all happenings at the club greatly set us back in the last few years. They seemingly were allowed to run their own show and whoever got them offside was a dead man walking.

We all know where the nick name "Benchie" Marshall started.

We also know that the politics at board level has always been toxic, although it may not be as bad in more recent times as it has been in the past.
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524100) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524097) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524094) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524092) said:
@batboy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524083) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524062) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524051) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523992) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523888) said:
@tigerjunior4 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523885) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523809) said:
@crazycat said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523798) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522568) said:
@crazycat said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522566) said:
@stryker-69 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522520) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522519) said:
@stryker-69 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522417) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522300) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522223) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

He never said he was the best halfback that year, just that he was halfback of the year, which he was.

The anti Brooks brigade have become like the anti vax brigade. They aren’t interested in having rational conversation, they just want to scream in your face and dismiss any facts that don’t back their argument.

Which facts?
Any fact supports our stance that a lump of drift wood would perform better.
It amuses me that his only supporters in the whole NRL fan base are a tiny minority of Tigers men. Everyone else laughs at him trying to play.

I pointed out the FACT that Luke Brooks won halfback of the year under our previous coach, in reply to the comment that Brooks had a problem with the last 3 coaches.

You replied saying if I thought Brooks was the best halfback in the comp I knew nothing about the game.

Newcastle, a club who actually played finals this year want him. Andrew Johns wants him at the knights and believes they can make him a better player. Why can’t we?

I don’t know, why can’t we?
Many have tried, all have failed.



@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522519) said:
@stryker-69 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522417) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522300) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522223) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

He never said he was the best halfback that year, just that he was halfback of the year, which he was.

The anti Brooks brigade have become like the anti vax brigade. They aren’t interested in having rational conversation, they just want to scream in your face and dismiss any facts that don’t back their argument.

Which facts?
Any fact supports our stance that a lump of drift wood would perform better.
It amuses me that his only supporters in the whole NRL fan base are a tiny minority of Tigers men. Everyone else laughs at him trying to play.

I pointed out the FACT that Luke Brooks won halfback of the year under our previous coach, in reply to the comment that Brooks had a problem with the last 3 coaches.

You replied saying if I thought Brooks was the best halfback in the comp I knew nothing about the game.

Newcastle, a club who actually played finals this year want him. Andrew Johns wants him at the knights and believes they can make him a better player. Why can’t we?

I don’t know, why can’t we?
Many have tried and failed.

Lets look at Brooks:
When he first came with Voldemort, they became known as the Turnstyles. No defense and we were conceding tries in the middle.
What we have seen is Brooks up the ante in Defense, he has gotten a lot better.

Then Coach Voldemort punts Robbie Farah because he wants a hooker who will give good early ball to nr7. This never worked for us. It was said of Des Haslier that at the dogs he changed to adapt with the players strengths and we needed that. Well Coach Voldemort had one gameplan and one only punting Pat Richards who was playing the house down.

Brooks has had Sheens, Potter, Voldemort, Cleary, McGuire. On top of this Brett Kimmorley worked as a coaching assistant with us. All of them have tried different styles, many tried different hookers and it's the same.

Brooks is a great player, but poor halfback. He is a poor halfback because he won't organise or boss the team into position. Why? He isn't that guy! He is shy and humble. Maybe Johns can coach it into him, maybe not! We can't so stop putting the square peg into the round hole.

Hopefully Brooks gells with Hastings. Either they swap positions or Hastings steers the team from 5/8. It will take 5 rounds for us to see if this works or is a total failure, they will need time to Gel. It will also be hard because Madge is inflexible too and I am unsure how Brooks+Hastings+Madge will work together.

That said, by round 10 if Brooks and Hastings has't worked PUNT BROOKS. Let him go to the knights, England wherever. Our team needs structure.

Is Voldemort Jason Taylor or Ivan at this point? I've lost track.

You forgot the rule, dont say his name!

Also for me its JT.
Yes I wish Ivan stayed for 4 years even just to see what the team would look like. He seemed to be a great people manager, a hopeless talent picker
A better coach then I expected.

JT 100% evil. Broke up the Wests Tigers. Did not teach anyone to kick yet was a high scoring goal kicker himself! Would have been happy to keep Mick Potter for those 2 years.

Fair enough. My view is Ivan is a good coach but an awful human being.

JT did his best but was massively out of his depth and had no idea what he was doing. I blame the board for hiring him in the first place.

I remember JT got the head coaches position over Griffin because the board were impressed with his presentation and his stated commitment to focus on junior development.

He absolutely decimated our junior pathways. We used to be fairly competitive in under 20s every year and by 2017, we were getting flogged 84 - 6. He let some talented players walk out and failed to get the best out of youngsters who were blooded under Potter. The Farah debacle was pretty horrible and was handled terribly. Tossing aside a club captain like that didn’t make the club look like an attractive option to players.

Personally my least liked coach in WT history.

Truth,

Really don't like how he outcasted sirro senior and got rid of blokes like Farah to make his job safer.

Marina go in my view was as bad as JT. Took a while to reverse her work.

Go was appointed by NRL CEO Smith, no doubt had an agenda from the NRL….to weaken the club to the point it folds

All this rubbish. Go is the best Chair went ever had. By a long way. She brought us from a small club that lost money and had a disfunctional board that argued amongst themselves constantly to be a much richer club with stability. Sure we haven't been successful and our board make poor decisions but we're in a fast better position than we were before she started.

She was friends with JT's missus which probably helped him get the job and look where that got us. She was hopeless so was Maher too

My god there is some rubbish here...
He got the job because he was the only one that was actually prepared for the job interview.
The others thought they were a shoe in.

He could turn the PowerPoint presentation on.
Football games are not won on a coaches interview. Go had no football knowledge so was impressed by the interview. Turns out he could interview well but couldn't coach and can't man manage anyone

He’s been gone for 5 years. Not sure the point of this rant.

the comment about how great Go was made me think of the JT appointment and relationship she had with JT wife prior to WT appointment. Happy days, glad the JT saga has ended shouldn't drag it back up

Yep, because the club went on to bigger and better things after he was sacked.

?
 
@telltails said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524136) said:
Funny - I recall the Marina Go years as some of the most embarrassing and depressing years of the clubs history. While I don't hold her responsible for the debacle that we were, there is nothing about her tenure that I would want to revisit. Not sure she would want to either.

We went from over $1M in the red to in the black. Sponsorship increased significantly as did memberships. We also became one of the highest ranked clubs in player welfare which we were terrible in before and set up a lot of the community programs that are now in place.

On field we were terrible, off field we improved significantly.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524052) said:
@balmain-boy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524051) said:
@tigerap said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523992) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523888) said:
@tigerjunior4 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523885) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523809) said:
@crazycat said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1523798) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522568) said:
@crazycat said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522566) said:
@stryker-69 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522520) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522519) said:
@stryker-69 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522417) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522300) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522223) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

He never said he was the best halfback that year, just that he was halfback of the year, which he was.

The anti Brooks brigade have become like the anti vax brigade. They aren’t interested in having rational conversation, they just want to scream in your face and dismiss any facts that don’t back their argument.

Which facts?
Any fact supports our stance that a lump of drift wood would perform better.
It amuses me that his only supporters in the whole NRL fan base are a tiny minority of Tigers men. Everyone else laughs at him trying to play.

I pointed out the FACT that Luke Brooks won halfback of the year under our previous coach, in reply to the comment that Brooks had a problem with the last 3 coaches.

You replied saying if I thought Brooks was the best halfback in the comp I knew nothing about the game.

Newcastle, a club who actually played finals this year want him. Andrew Johns wants him at the knights and believes they can make him a better player. Why can’t we?

I don’t know, why can’t we?
Many have tried, all have failed.



@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522519) said:
@stryker-69 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522417) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522300) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522223) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

He never said he was the best halfback that year, just that he was halfback of the year, which he was.

The anti Brooks brigade have become like the anti vax brigade. They aren’t interested in having rational conversation, they just want to scream in your face and dismiss any facts that don’t back their argument.

Which facts?
Any fact supports our stance that a lump of drift wood would perform better.
It amuses me that his only supporters in the whole NRL fan base are a tiny minority of Tigers men. Everyone else laughs at him trying to play.

I pointed out the FACT that Luke Brooks won halfback of the year under our previous coach, in reply to the comment that Brooks had a problem with the last 3 coaches.

You replied saying if I thought Brooks was the best halfback in the comp I knew nothing about the game.

Newcastle, a club who actually played finals this year want him. Andrew Johns wants him at the knights and believes they can make him a better player. Why can’t we?

I don’t know, why can’t we?
Many have tried and failed.

Lets look at Brooks:
When he first came with Voldemort, they became known as the Turnstyles. No defense and we were conceding tries in the middle.
What we have seen is Brooks up the ante in Defense, he has gotten a lot better.

Then Coach Voldemort punts Robbie Farah because he wants a hooker who will give good early ball to nr7. This never worked for us. It was said of Des Haslier that at the dogs he changed to adapt with the players strengths and we needed that. Well Coach Voldemort had one gameplan and one only punting Pat Richards who was playing the house down.

Brooks has had Sheens, Potter, Voldemort, Cleary, McGuire. On top of this Brett Kimmorley worked as a coaching assistant with us. All of them have tried different styles, many tried different hookers and it's the same.

Brooks is a great player, but poor halfback. He is a poor halfback because he won't organise or boss the team into position. Why? He isn't that guy! He is shy and humble. Maybe Johns can coach it into him, maybe not! We can't so stop putting the square peg into the round hole.

Hopefully Brooks gells with Hastings. Either they swap positions or Hastings steers the team from 5/8. It will take 5 rounds for us to see if this works or is a total failure, they will need time to Gel. It will also be hard because Madge is inflexible too and I am unsure how Brooks+Hastings+Madge will work together.

That said, by round 10 if Brooks and Hastings has't worked PUNT BROOKS. Let him go to the knights, England wherever. Our team needs structure.

Is Voldemort Jason Taylor or Ivan at this point? I've lost track.

You forgot the rule, dont say his name!

Also for me its JT.
Yes I wish Ivan stayed for 4 years even just to see what the team would look like. He seemed to be a great people manager, a hopeless talent picker
A better coach then I expected.

JT 100% evil. Broke up the Wests Tigers. Did not teach anyone to kick yet was a high scoring goal kicker himself! Would have been happy to keep Mick Potter for those 2 years.

Fair enough. My view is Ivan is a good coach but an awful human being.

JT did his best but was massively out of his depth and had no idea what he was doing. I blame the board for hiring him in the first place.

I remember JT got the head coaches position over Griffin because the board were impressed with his presentation and his stated commitment to focus on junior development.

He absolutely decimated our junior pathways. We used to be fairly competitive in under 20s every year and by 2017, we were getting flogged 84 - 6. He let some talented players walk out and failed to get the best out of youngsters who were blooded under Potter. The Farah debacle was pretty horrible and was handled terribly. Tossing aside a club captain like that didn’t make the club look like an attractive option to players.

Personally my least liked coach in WT history.

Truth,

Really don't like how he outcasted sirro senior and got rid of blokes like Farah to make his job safer.

Marina go in my view was as bad as JT. Took a while to reverse her work.

Go was appointed by NRL CEO Smith, no doubt had an agenda from the NRL….to weaken the club to the point it folds

All this rubbish. Go is the best Chair went ever had. By a long way. She brought us from a small club that lost money and had a disfunctional board that argued amongst themselves constantly to be a much richer club with stability. Sure we haven't been successful and our board make poor decisions but we're in a fast better position than we were before she started.

Too bad profit and loss doesn't get us to the finals. She was terrible.

No. She was excellent. How she managed to turn a basketcase into a professional and profitable club is quite remarkable. All of our more recent off field progress and additions can were made possible by the framework she implemented.

Turn off your absurd bias.

The chairperson can not control short term outcomes, only medium-long term objectives. Obviously onfield success is the one metric that we haven't been able to improve upon, but the new COE, Sheens coming onboard, signing better quality players and gradually becoming a more desirable club to join will help us achieve that goal soon.
 
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@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522519) said:
@stryker-69 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522417) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522300) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522223) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

He never said he was the best halfback that year, just that he was halfback of the year, which he was.

The anti Brooks brigade have become like the anti vax brigade. They aren’t interested in having rational conversation, they just want to scream in your face and dismiss any facts that don’t back their argument.

Which facts?
Any fact supports our stance that a lump of drift wood would perform better.
It amuses me that his only supporters in the whole NRL fan base are a tiny minority of Tigers men. Everyone else laughs at him trying to play.

I pointed out the FACT that Luke Brooks won halfback of the year under our previous coach, in reply to the comment that Brooks had a problem with the last 3 coaches.

You replied saying if I thought Brooks was the best halfback in the comp I knew nothing about the game.

Newcastle, a club who actually played finals this year want him. Andrew Johns wants him at the knights and believes they can make him a better player. Why can’t we?

I don’t know, why can’t we?
Many have tried, all have failed.



@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522519) said:
@stryker-69 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522417) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522300) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522223) said:
@eternal-tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522221) said:
@bones said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522198) said:
@lee-s-fedora said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1522196) said:
Brooks hasnt been right for our past 3 coaches maybe the problem is brooks

He won halfback of the year under our previous coach… but don’t let facts get in the way.

Couldn’t this all go in one of the 17 Luke Brooks threads available?

Halfback of the Year for a team who came 9th. In 2018, Cronk had his debut year at Chooks and won a GF, Adam Reynolds got South's to Top 4 and Cleary debuted in Origin, but yeah Brooks was the best 7 in the Comp ???

He never said he was the best halfback that year, just that he was halfback of the year, which he was.

The anti Brooks brigade have become like the anti vax brigade. They aren’t interested in having rational conversation, they just want to scream in your face and dismiss any facts that don’t back their argument.

Which facts?
Any fact supports our stance that a lump of drift wood would perform better.
It amuses me that his only supporters in the whole NRL fan base are a tiny minority of Tigers men. Everyone else laughs at him trying to play.

I pointed out the FACT that Luke Brooks won halfback of the year under our previous coach, in reply to the comment that Brooks had a problem with the last 3 coaches.

You replied saying if I thought Brooks was the best halfback in the comp I knew nothing about the game.

Newcastle, a club who actually played finals this year want him. Andrew Johns wants him at the knights and believes they can make him a better player. Why can’t we?

I don’t know, why can’t we?
Many have tried and failed.

Lets look at Brooks:
When he first came with Voldemort, they became known as the Turnstyles. No defense and we were conceding tries in the middle.
What we have seen is Brooks up the ante in Defense, he has gotten a lot better.

Then Coach Voldemort punts Robbie Farah because he wants a hooker who will give good early ball to nr7. This never worked for us. It was said of Des Haslier that at the dogs he changed to adapt with the players strengths and we needed that. Well Coach Voldemort had one gameplan and one only punting Pat Richards who was playing the house down.

Brooks has had Sheens, Potter, Voldemort, Cleary, McGuire. On top of this Brett Kimmorley worked as a coaching assistant with us. All of them have tried different styles, many tried different hookers and it's the same.

Brooks is a great player, but poor halfback. He is a poor halfback because he won't organise or boss the team into position. Why? He isn't that guy! He is shy and humble. Maybe Johns can coach it into him, maybe not! We can't so stop putting the square peg into the round hole.

Hopefully Brooks gells with Hastings. Either they swap positions or Hastings steers the team from 5/8. It will take 5 rounds for us to see if this works or is a total failure, they will need time to Gel. It will also be hard because Madge is inflexible too and I am unsure how Brooks+Hastings+Madge will work together.

That said, by round 10 if Brooks and Hastings has't worked PUNT BROOKS. Let him go to the knights, England wherever. Our team needs structure.

Is Voldemort Jason Taylor or Ivan at this point? I've lost track.

You forgot the rule, dont say his name!

Also for me its JT.
Yes I wish Ivan stayed for 4 years even just to see what the team would look like. He seemed to be a great people manager, a hopeless talent picker
A better coach then I expected.

JT 100% evil. Broke up the Wests Tigers. Did not teach anyone to kick yet was a high scoring goal kicker himself! Would have been happy to keep Mick Potter for those 2 years.

Fair enough. My view is Ivan is a good coach but an awful human being.

JT did his best but was massively out of his depth and had no idea what he was doing. I blame the board for hiring him in the first place.

I remember JT got the head coaches position over Griffin because the board were impressed with his presentation and his stated commitment to focus on junior development.

He absolutely decimated our junior pathways. We used to be fairly competitive in under 20s every year and by 2017, we were getting flogged 84 - 6. He let some talented players walk out and failed to get the best out of youngsters who were blooded under Potter. The Farah debacle was pretty horrible and was handled terribly. Tossing aside a club captain like that didn’t make the club look like an attractive option to players.

Personally my least liked coach in WT history.

Truth,

Really don't like how he outcasted sirro senior and got rid of blokes like Farah to make his job safer.

Marina go in my view was as bad as JT. Took a while to reverse her work.

Go was appointed by NRL CEO Smith, no doubt had an agenda from the NRL….to weaken the club to the point it folds

All this rubbish. Go is the best Chair went ever had. By a long way. She brought us from a small club that lost money and had a disfunctional board that argued amongst themselves constantly to be a much richer club with stability. Sure we haven't been successful and our board make poor decisions but we're in a fast better position than we were before she started.

Too bad profit and loss doesn't get us to the finals. She was terrible.

No. She was excellent. How she managed to turn a basketcase into a professional and profitable club is quite remarkable. All of our more recent off field progress and additions can were made possible by the framework she implemented.

Turn off your absurd bias.

The chairperson can not control short term outcomes, only medium-long term objectives. Obviously onfield success is the one metric that we haven't been able to improve upon, but the new COE, Sheens coming onboard, signing better quality players and gradually becoming a more desirable club to join will help us achieve that goal soon.

All her outstanding appoints have left, except pascoe. Can't agree on this one my friend.
Thank god sheens is back so someone knows what they are doing.

P.s did u check the juniors video and see the FB I was talking about?
 
@cqtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1524167) said:
Gus confirmed to a bulldogs supporter on twitter that they are signing Reece Hoffman.

I think he would have struggled to make our cup side anyway
 
Hoffman is still young hopes he turns out like a player in the luke Lewis mould , Madge was big on him, but I guess the appeal of having a top 30 spot open is better then having a player that was never going to get a shot this year
 
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