Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Camel2281 said:
Difference is Hunt and Townsend always had good kicking games and were intelligent players. They also more often than not take the correct option. They're also very strong communicators which is the halfs main job. Brooks is mute
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Interesting discussion point regarding a half having a kicking game.

If you look at halves that have taken their teams to premierships in Rugby League, and halves that have taken their country to a World Cup win in Union, many of them were able to control critical moments or even the whole game with field position.

A team needs balance, so kicking is only one piece of the puzzle, but you could have the best team in the game and an awful kicker and win less than 50% of games.

A good kicking game applies huge amounts of pressure and gives teams the ball in areas where they can’t be effective with it. If 20 of 30 sets of 6 are in areas where the other team can’t really attack you, then you are half way to winning the game.
 
SwervinMervin said:
I always reckon the same but if you take a look at the 2005 GF backline it isn't really full of noted speedsters out wide. Brett Hodgson, Daniel Fitzhenry, Paul Whatuira, Shane Elford, Pat Richards, Benji Marshall, Scott Prince. The two fastest players in that team were the halves probably. Hodgson no slouch but not electric either and the outside backs were not quick at all. The difference being they all had the knack of being in the right place at the right time and played pretty flat which makes players look faster by taking time away from the defence. That team played up tempo footy without having speed to burn. Fast hands, fast between the ears, unpredicatable and a smaller, creative, mobile pack made the difference. A fast team without noted individual speedsters.
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Agree, Benji and Prince ---- Hastings and AD, like comparing Ferraris to Combie vans.

We would not have got to the 2005 finals, with this pair, and the game is far quicker today. Sheens knows this, both WT and Raiders that he coached to premierships had great halves, has have all the great sides. I don't think Brooks, AD or Hastings are great , but of the three i would take Brooks.
 
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TigerSkins said:
There are words/rumours going around that Ken Maumalo might be forced to call it a day due to knee problems .. ?? So Jimmy (age 22) can slot in there, when and if Ken leaves .. ??

Dont worry about Jimmy Ngutlik not having played enough .. if he's got the talent and ya think he's good enough .. the Sheenius will give him a crack .. just like he did with this school kid they called .. Benji .. !! :unsure:;):unsure:
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Hope Kenny can overcome his knee, blokes a real weapon even with one leg he was one of our better players
 
Earl said:
I want to see Hastings and AD given a chance. Everyone talks about them being slow but Brooks is quick and we've been terrible for years on end.

I'd prefer all our players to be quicker but it's only one aspect of playing footy.
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And a greatly underestimated aspect in regards to 6 and 7.

Still sitting on the fence Earl,? Tell me how many good or great sides had slow halves?
 
sleeve said:
And a greatly underestimated aspect in regards to 6 and 7.

Still sitting on the fence Earl,? Tell me how many good or great sides had slow halves?
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Only 1 I can think of is the great Shane Perry Western suburbs Magpie legend and Brisbane Broncos 2006 number 7 grand final winner besides that I struggle to think of a half as bog average but he played in a absolutely cracking team
 
Odessa said:
Only 1 I can think of is the great Shane Perry Western suburbs Magpie legend and Brisbane Broncos 2006 number 7 grand final winner besides that I struggle to think of a half as bog average but he played in a absolutely cracking team
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If only every middle of the Road 7 could play in a side with 16 Origin Players every week....

Hard to believe - That 06 Broncos side ALL played Origin (Bar Perry)
Even Bloody David Staggs.
 
sleeve said:
And a greatly underestimated aspect in regards to 6 and 7.

Still sitting on the fence Earl,? Tell me how many good or great sides had slow halves?
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It's hard to answer the question on flow halves. I don't think Andrew Johns, Wally Lewis or Peter Sterling were fast.

I think our best option in the halves is Doueihi and Hastings. The thing is Staines or Laurie miss out on the fullback spot.

The alternative is Staines at 1, Laurie and Doueihi in the halves with Hastings as a ball playing lock who is really our 7. It might work but I think it's more risky than a Hastings/Doueihi combination.

I'm assuming Brooks is gone.
 
Earl said:
It's hard to answer the question on flow halves. I don't think Andrew Johns, Wally Lewis or Peter Sterling were fast.

I think our best option in the halves is Doueihi and Hastings. The thing is Staines or Laurie miss out on the fullback spot.

The alternative is Staines at 1, Laurie and Doueihi in the halves with Hastings as a ball playing lock who is really our 7. It might work but I think it's more risky than a Hastings/Doueihi combination.

I'm assuming Brooks is gone.
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There's a real difference between not being 'fast' and being back rower 'slow'
 
batboy said:
Bateman to lock maybe?
Frizzel one edge, Paps on the other....

Why wouldn't Hasting go to 7 if Brooks is gone?

In the words of the immortal James Hooper - "The answer is a pineapple"
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It makes no sense does it. Bateman is not a ball playing lock. He is a small aging edge backrower that for some reason we appear to be buying.

I hope I'm wrong or the rumours are false.
 
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