Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Kaito]

given the eye watering sums of money that are being floated for Moses we absolutely have money to spend. keep in mind a lot of our squad are on modest wages. throw in the fact that Doueihi, Laurie and Brooks are all off contract and we’ve certainly got room to have a crack at some decent signings.

Cap going up too. We got money

 

[Spartan117]

I hope they lose both Brown and Moses, karma needs to run over that club

Or pay significant overs for them both.

No money left for the other players l.

Hate Parra.

 

[Kelce68]

That was Madge's recruitment (Paps and Api) and the best recruitment we have made in many years.Klemmer is also decent recruitment and we nee more at that level

So Sheens wasn't involved with the Papali'i or Koroisau signings eh?

 

[The Fresh Oil]

We have 9 players off contract after 2023. Brooks, Douehi, - big money, Stains , Laurie-medium money, Seyfarth, Talau - ? Smith, Saukuru, Ma"manaime-- low money.
I would suggest , that only 3 or 4 would be kept. And with an increase in the salary cap, we should be ok.

Hopefully they punt Brooks as soon as possible.

 

[Don Kershane]

Or pay significant overs for them both.

No money left for the other players l.

Hate Parra.

Gutho will have to do the work of 5 players. He already thinks he does the work of 3.

 

[finnzo]

We are still lacking a good back up half I’m howling we have signed kurt falls

 

[tiger_one]

Gutho will have to do the work of 5 players. He already thinks he does the work of 3.

I can't think of Gutho without remembering that WOW of a tackle by Dane Laurie.

 

[twentyforty]

You were talking about recruitment this offseason, though. The Tigers can't fix all the mistakes that have left them with a bad roster - they can only start getting things right to improve in future. You said the recruitment is still poor, as in now. That's the point I'm disputing, on the basis that we have recruited well out of the players that are available.

You've sort of answered your own question at the end, too. Why would we, or anyone else, want to fit three "average" halves into a team? We're not going to build a successful side by stockpiling average players.

Anyway, none of that has anything to do with your original point, which was that we have recruited badly. If you actually look at player movements this offseason it's pretty blindingly obvious that we've done extremely well out of what was actually available.

Where did I say "we have recruited badly"?
I stated that we have not improved in this area despite the turnover of staff, after all isnt that why we have sacked so many people? to improve practices? Recruitment is one area that is crucial to our success and a good place to start.

 

[bathursttiger1]

Looks like a lot of people owe Laurie an apology

Don’t hold your breath waiting for anyone to apologise.

 

[bathursttiger1]

For what?

Bagging him out for being the player that was upset about Hastings leaving.

 

[DJG]

Why do people think we're getting Bateman @ 800K ?

Lets be real.. he'd be 500-650K

 

[earl]

Why do people think we're getting Bateman @ 800K ?

Lets be real.. he'd be 500-650K

200k plus the honor of playing for our team.

 

[Harvey]

What's the difference between this and how we got in cap trouble with farah.

The club that is doing it

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

First of all, apologies for the long post below as I do not get to post often for various reasons. Following on from that, I have just caught up on the forum and... wow.

Anyway.

Matamua upgrade today had nothing to do with 'missing out' on anyone. Sheens has been really impressed with Matamua and his attitude throughout the year - despite being thrown into the deep end. Believes he possess all the skills of a modern 13. It is also an endorsement to the junior pathways and all the boys in the lower grades looking to progress.

Bateman deal is all but going ahead as planned. Only the formalities to sort out at this stage. Should be an announcement within a week but don't hold me to that as the timing is guesswork on my part (based on where it is at).

Don't have much on the Moses meeting as it is very much under wraps, not many details outside of the absolute inner circle. However, there have been many talks between Benji and Moses. Personally, I believe this is very 50/50 at the moment with Parra and Tigers. Dogs little chance right now. Having said that, my belief was that Moses was 100% staying at Parra about a month ago. Take that as you will... The Brooks 180, Hastings moving and reluctance for re-signing Doueihi is not without reason. If Moses falls through, there are other options. As for those hoping for Teddy, forget about it. He has made it clear he is above the Tigers.

The player unhappy with the Hastings decision is not Laurie. Although Laurie is not entirely comfortable with his current contract position as he is looking to extend but the club does not want to offer a long term deal as of yet. It should make for interesting competition between Staines and Laurie.

On Woods, not sure if it is just me but I personally have not heard anything about Woods coming back? Thinking that is just media and fans making assumptions?

The Nanai offer was not the Tigers, i'm fairly well informed (as the club probably is) that he is not looking to move from the Cowboys, however i'm sure he's using the interest from other clubs to maximise his offer from the Cowboys.

In terms of pre-season, hearing the young guys are really impressing. I saw that someone has already alluded to it but Tumeth will likely come into grade into the centres, spend sometime there before he fills out and moves to the second row. The two that have really stood out for Sheens are Talau and Blore. Talau will join Blore in the backrow. He has shown a tremendous attitude since his injury, stayed fit and has taken the move really well, transforming his body to suit a move to the forwards. I have made comment previously but think that Talau will be the breakout player this season. Having watched him closely in the juniors, his footwork, ball work and speed will really suit a middle or edge role. Think a large 5/8 playing at 13. He also played some 13 in the junior rep games, particularly junior schoolboys.

Finally, posted a while ago that the club was headed in the right direction back when things were looking fairly bleak after the spoon. Great to see that Sheens and the club have followed through and the club legitimately looks like it's on the up.

Any Info on if we'll be signing an extra half? Halves options look pretty thin atm.

 

[2112Tiger]

Who is the player that Buzz Rothfield has said is upset with the treatment of Jackson Hastings and has informed his management to look at his options?

I listened to Buzz on the Daily Telegraph NRL Podcast today and when speaking about the Tigers he said along the lines of “I think Adam Doueihi is unhappy there… I get the feeling he’s not happy”.

Now the key issue here is that Adrian Proszenko (SMH) recently said Doueihi may have parted ways with his management and may be managing himself - Danny Weidler (also SMH) has mentioned he’s after $900,000 per year.

So if he has parted ways with management and is managing himself, then Rothfield’s comment about the player speaking to their own management to look for options doesn’t really make sense, although the report about him parting ways with his management came from the Herald (not DT) so it’s possible Rothfield doesn’t know about the management switch and has just got wind that he’s unhappy.

Either way, we know Doueihi and Hastings are mates, we know Doueihi wants a big upgrade, we know he said last year he only wants to play 5/8 and we’re looking to sign marquee halves - I think this is who Buzz is referring to. I don’t think it’s a coincidence both major media outlets are writing stories about him essentially being offside with the club.

Personally, he’s not worth $900k. If push comes to shove, I’d be happy to see Staines at 1, Laurie at 6 and Doueihi out the door if he continues having an attitude that isn’t team-first.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

All the recent information, I think our 2023 pack will be;

8 Klemmer
9 Api
10 Offa
11 Papali'i
12 Blore
13 Bateman

14 Talau
15 Twal
16 Pole
17 Utoikamanu

With Matamua next in line.

Not bad tbh

If we're signing Bateman to play lock then I think that's a bit of a concern tbh.

 

[DJG]

If we're signing Bateman to play lock then I think that's a bit of a concern tbh.

Has Bateman played 13 anytime across his 243 games?

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

Has Bateman played 13 anytime across his 243 games?

I think he played 13 when he went back to Super League hence the dip in form.

 

[Roar_Power]

With the experience coming in ie. Koroisau, Papalli, Klemmer, maybe Bateman - let Matamua kick off at lock.

 

[sleeve]

So many if's , in this squad. If 2 of our young backs go from promising to good . If 2 of our promising young forwards fulfill their potential, If Stains or Laurie make it as a good fullback. They are all possible, and if only 3 succeed we are laughing. That leaves the halves , will they perform behind a better pack, I think so, but i think we will buy a new half or 5/8 for 2024. Depending on how the side performs, we may only need to buy a couple of players for 2024. By the end of 2023 many of our young stars should be first grade ready, SO MANY IFS , OR HOPES'. lol.