Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

gregjm87 said:
Yes it is why he has been recruited. That doesn't actually mean he can do that job. It means our club hopes/believes he can do that he can.
The best example of this I believe is Frizzell. Knights signed him believing they were not only getting a very good player but also a leader only to discover Frizzell doesn't talk. He is not a leader and not a guy to guide young players, even though he himself exemplifies what it takes to be a first grader.
It is more common for experienced players to not act as mentors for young players than it is they do. I'm not saying Sezer isn't that guy, I'm saying it certainly isn't a given that he is.

Again with Cogger, the insight is that he isn't assured of a starting spot at Knights, yet he signed there anyway. This shows he either understands that he is currently a benchie/fringe first grader. Or he has such an ego that he believes he will displace Hastings/Gamble/Crossland. He might do so but it isn't a given. There is no evidence that he will soon or cause any other chaos if he isn't in their best 17, just as there is none that he would do so if he was here.
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No way he goes to the knights for the exact same role he’s in at the panthers . He’s been given assurances or at least first crack .
Once again if the future has been identified as Fainu and Sullivan (4 year deal says a lot) then an old vet is ,and always was the way to go .
I don’t even know what to say about your ridiculous Sezer point . You’re just arguing for the sake of it .
 
Camel2281 said:
Large is playing centre for the Waratahs at the moment, I've watched a bit of their games coz I know one of the kids in the team. He's an outstanding runner of the ball, quick and a big kid. He'll end up a centre
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I tend to agree with this . Maybe a fullback . Either way he’s going to be dynamic and a huge asset whoever he ends up playing with .
 
jrtiger said:
he definitely has the physical skillset of an outside back, but if you have a look at tape from his time in Matts last season you'll see he has incredible ballplaying skills as well and already possesses the ability to play up and down the gears, which most players don't learn until they're 60 games into their career.

he is generational. given how hard we pushed to keep him and his brother he will be playing in the spine when he's ready for regular first grade.
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Large is only in year 10 at Scots. He played inside centre for them this year because of other, older kids in the 10 and 15 jerseys. I expect you’ll see him play 10 and/or 15 for his year 11 and year 12 seasons. That’s five eighth or fullback in league positions.
 
Mistymuzzle said:
Just played a full season in Reggies at 7. He is a 7 out and out.
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Strongly disagree. He may have had 7 on his back but played nothing like a 7.

Humphries was the chief playmaker for that team. Watching those games, he was the one directing the team and did most of the kicking.

Fainu isn’t an organiser and doesn’t have much of a kicking game at this point of his career. He’s a ball runner, with an elite ability to beat players and create space for his outside and inside men.
 
tony soprano said:
Just remember any external signing is due to fulton not benji. If you think benji can attract recruitment you should look at his track record. Fulton is the guy to attract players. They signed fulton because the club had a long history of not being able to attract players and losing players.

Benji alone does not change this.

I think when it comes to recruitment too many are letting their personal feelings get in the way with what is best for recruitment.

Again, recruitment has been an issue for 10 plus years and fulton the only guy at the club presently that can change that. That's why I don't think benji involvement in recruitment is good for the club
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What's Fulton done so far?
He might end up being an astute buy for our club but hasn't set the world on fire yet.
You make a point of others letting personal feelings get in the way. You bang the drum pretty hard for Fulton.
 
Wiz said:
Large is only in year 10 at Scots. He played inside centre for them this year because of other, older kids in the 10 and 15 jerseys. I expect you’ll see him play 10 and/or 15 for his year 11 and year 12 seasons. That’s five eighth or fullback in league positions.
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Perhaps. But the Tahs have him at centre in his own age group
 
stephen said:
What's Fulton done so far?
He might end up being an astute buy for our club but hasn't set the world on fire yet.
You make a point of others letting personal feelings get in the way. You bang the drum pretty hard for Fulton.
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I'm going over the same point again and again. Fulton was bought because the club could not recruit or hold on to players. I think the club should let him do his job.
 
stephen said:
What's Fulton done so far?
He might end up being an astute buy for our club but hasn't set the world on fire yet.
You make a point of others letting personal feelings get in the way. You bang the drum pretty hard for Fulton.
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Without Fulton, we wouldn't have signed the Fainu brothers or Sullivan, plus about 10 kids in SG Ball & Harold Matts. Yes all speculative but the Fainu brothers have the ability to be national reps if guided correctly.
 
jrtiger said:
he's on a long term deal with WT. nothing to worry about for a few years.
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I am sure the salary cap gurus at the WT are ensuring we'll have the space when Large & Makasini turn 18 to make them an appropriate extension offer. For Onitoni, having Ashton signed up may help! I wonder what father Large does, maybe we can bring him into the club lol
 
Lestronge said:
No way he goes to the knights for the exact same role he’s in at the panthers . He’s been given assurances or at least first crack .
Once again if the future has been identified as Fainu and Sullivan (4 year deal says a lot) then an old vet is ,and always was the way to go .
I don’t even know what to say about your ridiculous Sezer point . You’re just arguing for the sake of it .
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Mate. I think you have missed my original point which was given that there is arguments for and against Sezer/Cogger (and you can even throw in Sullivan given he was signed after Cogger committed to Knights), then debate between Marshall and Fulton should lead to us pursuing the better option as it should mean that all options and their pros and cons are considered.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
I am sure the salary cap gurus at the WT are ensuring we'll have the space when Large & Makasini turn 18 to make them an appropriate extension offer. For Onitoni, having Ashton signed up may help! I wonder what father Large does, maybe we can bring him into the club lol
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both Onitoni and Ashton have NRL components in their deals moving forward, just comes down to how many years and how much money. as you say extensions and pay increases will come if they exceed expectations. Makasini I hope and I assume is locked up. he is a representative-capable talent.
 
Wiz said:
Large is only in year 10 at Scots. He played inside centre for them this year because of other, older kids in the 10 and 15 jerseys. I expect you’ll see him play 10 and/or 15 for his year 11 and year 12 seasons. That’s five eighth or fullback in league positions.
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Especially in the juniors but they tend to put league 5/8 into the centres in Union.. league 5/8 tend to run more .. Union 5/8 are more of a half back.. tactical kicking and organising
 
CornerPost said:
Especially in the juniors but they tend to put league 5/8 into the centres in Union.. league 5/8 tend to run more .. Union 5/8 are more of a half back.. tactical kicking and organising
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100%. There is a reason a number of rugby playing nations refer to the inside centre as "second five-eighth"
 
Canadian Club said:
Strongly disagree. He may have had 7 on his back but played nothing like a 7.

Humphries was the chief playmaker for that team. Watching those games, he was the one directing the team and did most of the kicking.

Fainu isn’t an organiser and doesn’t have much of a kicking game at this point of his career. He’s a ball runner, with an elite ability to beat players and create space for his outside and inside men.
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Yep. You should see my son coming through. Little Tito is close to signing with the Tigers.

He is 5.
 
hank37w said:
I'll be glad when tomorrow comes around and the announcements come that we have signed 5 or 6 representative players.

Can't wait.
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We're not an attraction for 90% of rep players yet until Benji earns his stripes & we get up close to the top 8.

The only ones possibly are Jarome Luai due to money, location of our club, Api being here & opportunity to be the main man; Justin Olam (in a Blore trade); Dane Gagai (if we sweeten his contract with an extra year in '25) or possibly Addo-Carr (if we can get Nofa off our books, the Tartak link and possibility to trade Blore to Dogs).

I am just being realistic. Any other names mentioned in the media will be just managers trying to beef up the value of their client.
 
I feel the silence out of the club atm is deafening. So a big 2-3 weeks of news ahead I feels.

With most of the boys (except rep duty players) due back to training next week (not long after 1 Nov), I'm expecting a few WT media releases with this first paragraph ... WT have agreed to release TBC to take up an opportunity at another club.

and also ...

WT are delighted to announce that TBC has extended his contract until the end of the 2025 or 2026 season.

I'm hoping the names Jake Simpkin, Asu Kepaoa, David Nofoaluma, Stefano Utoikamanu, Junior Tupou & Shawn Blore replace the TBCs above.
 
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