Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

i wish we threw Gutho a lifeline. he is exactly the player this club needs both on and off the field. Never give up attitude as hes in every play even as a one legged old man, 2 yrs with us Parra pick up half the freight. Flanno going to put together one very experienced hard football team.
He would be a leader at the club. It's exactly what we need. There no leaders at club at present. There is no substitute for experience. He played in GF only 2 years ago.
 
Would be an absolute Genius!

Again Bud @ $500K is someone can take $300K I'd be happy.

Bateman @ $600K you'd think $400K would be achievable.

We pay $200K for each seems reasonable.
$400k is almost exactly the salary cap divided by 30, in other words a completely middle of the road first grade player. The 15th best guy at your club - a rotation prop or an unspectacular starter in any other position. If Bateman is that just overpaid by $200k we really have no need to get rid of him. Unfortunately he is very definitively not that, hence why we're all desperate to get rid of him.
 
He would be a leader at the club. It's exactly what we need. There no leaders at club at present. There is no substitute for experience. He played in GF only 2 years ago.
He’d be outstanding.

But unless we snare decent forwards, then all bets are off in terms of any meaningful progress next season.

Unfortunately Richo can’t disclose who we are talking to for fear of interference.

Interesting watching SGI bulk up with used goods. Classic Flanno.

The speed of the game played properly, young legs are attractive, actually I’ll rephrase that.
 
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I would argue 2022 was the year he had a decent season, otherwise he has been pretty mediocre. He had a couple of good games last year, but was largely ineffective.
Entire career has been mediocre in my opinion. Has talent but seemingly no desire to improve, or will to win. Enjoys the title of " NRL Player", nothing more.
 
Entire career has been mediocre in my opinion. Has talent but seemingly no desire to improve, or will to win. Enjoys the title of " NRL Player", nothing more.
We bought a fringe first grader from lowly Newcastle, who was given a bigger role but eventually became a fringe first grader here, always surprises me how we think we can change players. People point to his game when we beat NQ by 60, I think maybe they just had an off night.
 
We bought a fringe first grader from lowly Newcastle, who was given a bigger role but eventually became a fringe first grader here, always surprises me how we think we can change players. People point to his game when we beat NQ by 60, I think maybe they just had an off night.
Yeah. Unlike WT to not extend & upgrade him on that one inexplicable performance.
 
He's a captain not a leader!
He’s a fair player, but definitely not a leader.

He’s never looked totally comfy at the press conference after yet another flogging.

Sadly, he could be the most unsuccessful rugby league captain in the games history.

Not blaming him mind you.
 
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He’s a fair player, but definitely not a leader.

He’s never looked totally comfy at the press conference after yet another flogging.

Sadly, he could be the most unsuccessful rugby league captain in the games history.

Not blaming him mind you.
Another good player handicapped by this club culture.
 
Another good player handicapped by this club culture.
Well we’ve wrecked his % wins!

He was another victim of Ivan’s footy cancel culture and the word on the street is that he came for the cash.

The panther cancel culture is that unless you’re in with the Ivan, off you go.

And frighteningly, it’s worked!

He doesn’t even look happy being captain despite his wonderful talents.
 
3 years ago i would have been delighted to get Gutho even though he is a first class flog,these days i wouldn't want him even at a discount
Swear it’s every weekend I see gutho with his hands on his hips blaming others when he’s taken on the responsibility of not only fullback, but captain. Maybe I miss stuff and I’m blinded by these moments, but don’t think we should even be entertaining this idea of gutho, especially with our forward pack
 
Pascoe could find a lemon and loved announcing their representative history to us. They would never play reps again.
i don't blame Pascoe for signing McQueen...
Actually yes I do a little. He should have been on the watch for such a signing.

I am still a little unclear if it was a Taylor call or a Cleary call.

From memory the injury happened as we were about to sign McQueen. We could have dropped him cold and maybe made it into the 8.

It shows the culture of our club who sticks by players and really puts the effort in. Contrasted with clubs like the flight deck which treat players awfully, yet get a lot more loyality. ... i don't get it.
 
Other then injury which can't be helped I don't understand the To'a hate on this forum. Had a really good season in 23 and everytime he came back he obviously was still injured which speaks to the club not managing it well more then him. Will be starting centre in 25 if he avoids injury in the off-season.
I don't think it's any particular dislike of To'a, to be honest.

I think what we have here is To'a, Doueihi, Naden, Faataape & to a lesser extent Staines & Feledy all fighting out for what, really, should be 1 or 2 players spot.

If our starting centres next season are Olam & Bird, and your back-ups are Faataape & Doueihi, or Naden & To'a, or any other combination of 2 of the 4- you have good depth.

When you have 4 guys on relatively similar playing status, fighting for 2 back-up/fringe spots- you start thinking about value. To'a & Naden are the 2 most expensive of the 4. Makes sense that these would be the guys you look to move on.

The only thing that changes that is if one of them is scheduled to start- but then you still need to shift at least one of them. This isn't even taking into account low-cost Feledy being held back from playing time.

And that raises the bigger issue- a fringe 1st grade player is being relied upon to start. Of the 4, Doueihi is probably the most talented- and versatile. For mine, he's easily the better value player.
 

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