weststigers
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He requested 2 releases last year, so you'd think he has had a club lined up for a while.
No player asks for a release with nothing to go to.
A deal has been done elsewhere and probably was a long time ago.
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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No player asks for a release with nothing to go to.
A deal has been done elsewhere and probably was a long time ago.
U know we are so thin on backrowers , he might just work for us , the slimmmy eels have paid him for six months already, if he would come on a six month contract , with a club option for next year at a price that suited us , we really couldn’t lose , he would have to perform or he doesn’t get the next contract, sometimes u got to explore options, he was a dickhead , but if we can get the best out of him he would be a good pick up at the right price , and a doubt he has many other options
old_man_tiger
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There is no forward in our current rotation I would drop for Matterson.
If he would be good depth if he is willing to wait for an aside if there were no other factors. Since there are other factors I think and hope its a risk we don't take.
If he would be good depth if he is willing to wait for an aside if there were no other factors. Since there are other factors I think and hope its a risk we don't take.
supercoach
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The quickest way to fix these things and salary cap breaches is to punish the players as well as the clubs and the agents. At present the agent cops the punishment, if you included a lengthy ban on the player to, things would change. It’s to easy at present for the player to say, I leave all that stuff up to my agent. The players and in our current situation Galvin would know exactly what Moses is cooking upThe sooner, the better....
The NRL really needs to act quickly, and FIX this blight on our game, and start to really hold managers and players accountable for their contractual obligations.
Moving forward, we should have nothing to do with Moses. IMO he should be made an example of, and a full investigation into Moses's actions. So far he seems like the Teflon Don, nothing is sticking to him....
‘Blight on the game’: NRL set for player agent crackdown as Galvin saga rolls on
‘Blight on the game’: NRL set for player agent crackdown as Galvin saga rolls onwww.foxsports.com.au
We have no forward depth - I'd take him
bomberbrown
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I would rather the Tigers play with 16 each week than have Matterson come back. Every club he has been to he has caused a bit of grief.
pawsandclaws1
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We're building, so we should be looking at young forwards like Suli Pole, Heinz Lemoto, Fainu Latu and KPP.
tigertragic
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it will make no difference they will just create seperate businesses to keep the control ‘in house’The sooner, the better....
The NRL really needs to act quickly, and FIX this blight on our game, and start to really hold managers and players accountable for their contractual obligations.
Moving forward, we should have nothing to do with Moses. IMO he should be made an example of, and a full investigation into Moses's actions. So far he seems like the Teflon Don, nothing is sticking to him....
‘Blight on the game’: NRL set for player agent crackdown as Galvin saga rolls on
‘Blight on the game’: NRL set for player agent crackdown as Galvin saga rolls on
Enmore_Tiger
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Take out the Latu dynamic problem that spooks him and I don't think the culture thing would be an issue.
Very impressive the club has two of the top number 6 prospects in the country. Possibly inevitably one would always have to go.
Also forgotten Richo was honest in discussing the John Sutton road directly with the family. They didn't like that.
Enmore_Tiger
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Puzzling is you completely and repeatedly ignore the Latu/Luai dynamic, the Benji/Moses 1 dynamic, the Galvin/Moses 2 dynamic, the Father loving Parra dynamic, the the club does not see him as a long term half dynamic, the Gus Gould dynamic...
Don Kershane
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Looking at Melbourne it seems that any team is only as good as their 2 or 3 best players.
Go_You_Good_Things
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How about this theory on Galvan saying Benji can't help him reach his potential as a half . . . . .
It's possible that this line of bullshit was conceived last year by moses as an easy way out. Let's face it, it held more truth about it during the 23/24 seasons.
Moses would have thought everyone would agree, and him and Galvan would come out smelling like roses. And again . . . this would have been plausible in 24 for sure. No real arguments against it.
But like most narcissists, he didn't have a plan B, because his plan A was devised by a supremely intelligent and wily operator . . . and therefore it never needed a back up.
It's possible that this line of bullshit was conceived last year by moses as an easy way out. Let's face it, it held more truth about it during the 23/24 seasons.
Moses would have thought everyone would agree, and him and Galvan would come out smelling like roses. And again . . . this would have been plausible in 24 for sure. No real arguments against it.
But like most narcissists, he didn't have a plan B, because his plan A was devised by a supremely intelligent and wily operator . . . and therefore it never needed a back up.
Tucker
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That’s not the point I’m making though. Going to Parra makes no sense. It has to be a good club.
crazycat
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Re Luai vs AD at 7...
It's so weird, isn't it.
If someone told me that Toa + AD would be our regular centers for 6 rounds and we would be doing "OK" I would have laughed at them.
Now it's place AD at halfback... Which is weird as we haven't seen much of him at 7 and I feel that position was his to grab if he wanted it.
Yet I feel it's the right call. Luai is more used to 6 and AD seems that kind of person who is headstrong enough to be 7. Plus Luai seems to be a master at making people look good at 7....
Prepared to give Benji and Luai the benefit of the doubt on this one. Although this should be a winable game. Parra will turn up and Parra will be tough. Moses will change this team from a bottom 4 contender to a top 8 contender till he gets injured again.
user118245
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He cuts into the line so deep, would be amazing to have
No not back to back, that really comes down to the draw, whether a team plays the last grandfinalists back to back.
Spoke to my mates son who played rugby at Waverley college with Luca Moretti…for what it’s worth Luca told him that deal with Galvan at Parra has been done
weststigers
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I don't see much of a way around this. Agents not having coaches is one thing, but it doesn't stop agents from playing the games they do with agitating for releases with a secret deal on the table.The sooner, the better....
The NRL really needs to act quickly, and FIX this blight on our game, and start to really hold managers and players accountable for their contractual obligations.
Moving forward, we should have nothing to do with Moses. IMO he should be made an example of, and a full investigation into Moses's actions. So far he seems like the Teflon Don, nothing is sticking to him....
‘Blight on the game’: NRL set for player agent crackdown as Galvin saga rolls on
‘Blight on the game’: NRL set for player agent crackdown as Galvin saga rolls on
Depending on the legalities, you could start by regulating certain clauses. For example, the Luai deal is for 5 years, yet he has a get out clause for 3 of the 5 years. In essence, it's not really a 5 year deal for both parties, just for the player if they choose to take up their option.
Secondly, a player that requests a release, must mediate with the club with an NRL mediator and the details of that mediation made public in the interests of transparent dealings.
If a player knows that their BS reasons for leaving are going to be made public, they might think twice. This Galvin situation where he says he has no deal on the table, yet Benji is not right for his development doesn't make sense. Supposedly, there is no offer on the table, so is Galvin saying that any of the other 16 coaches in the NRL are going to be better for him than Benji? It doesn't stand up to any scrutiny. The process for leaving a club early should be more difficult and go through a clear process.
Player and club can still mutually agree to cut ties.
If a club wants to cut a player, they can still allow him into the market to find a new club, because they are on the hook for his salary regardless.
I think that could solve a few issues, but not all.
crazycat
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Going to tweek what your saying..
"It has to look like a good club".
Notice the slight but very important difference here. I suspect the Gold Coast are a crap club at the moment, but I have no doubt Des could make it sound like a NRL wonderland. Stephen Kearney was able to sell Parramatta and the Warriors to a bunch of players... I believe he got spoons at both clubs and if he dinnit he did not do much better.
"Adam O'Brien at the Knights, Shane Flanagan at the Dragons, Anthony Seibold at Manly, Toddy Payten at the Cowboys, and Andrew Webster at the Warriors"
I believe Manly has said no, they also need a halfback not a 5/8. Knights don't have the money after Brown.
Parra is one choice and if they don't do well. Moses can use Galvin to get rid of Jason "can't coach" Ryles!
(for the record, I reckon Ryles can build a team.. but will struggle with attacking structure. I see no willingness from him to hire people who will improve his weaknesses... Ryles will do OK, making the 8 but not finals).
supercoach
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And that is why Parra are a different team with Mitchell Moses. Expect to see a completely different team on Monday. It will be a much harder contest than many think
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