Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Spartan117]

I feel like there's zero downside to Doueihi? Doesnt work out at fullback, We would have a 5/8 for Benji. Worst case scenario we finally get some size on the wings.


The potential downside to Doueihi is that potentially we have another player on the roster who is a utility, pretty good at many but not elite at any a la Mbye, Thompson & MCK. If we end up with three utilities we are entrenching mediocrity.

That said, the kid is young and at least tall and may still grow into a position.

Tigers have enough players that ay out of position or fill in gaps.

 

[Geo]

WT Nation
5 hrs ·
The club has been put off by his current salary, however, and will not be interested without a financial contribution from South Sydney.

#WTNation

WT Nation is the Clubs media dept's FB page..

Seems odd that the club would run two separate pages.

Not really ..Wests Tigers Official gets a heap of abusive posts..

WT Nation was set up more as a fan page...for the feels..

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

WT Nation
5 hrs ·
The club has been put off by his current salary, however, and will not be interested without a financial contribution from South Sydney.

#WTNation

WT Nation is the Clubs media dept's FB page..

Seems odd that the club would run two separate pages.

Not really ..Wests Tigers Official gets a heap of abusive posts..

WT Nation was set up more as a fan page...for the feels..

Yeah fair enough. Always assumed it was just a nuffy fan who ran it.

 

[Tiger5150]

I feel like there's zero downside to Doueihi? Doesnt work out at fullback, We would have a 5/8 for Benji. Worst case scenario we finally get some size on the wings.


The potential downside to Doueihi is that potentially we have another player on the roster who is a utility, pretty good at many but not elite at any a la Mbye, Thompson & MCK. If we end up with three utilities we are entrenching mediocrity.

That said, the kid is young and at least tall and may still grow into a position.

Tigers have enough players that ay out of position or fill in gaps.

Agreed. I'd rather the club hold off. Im not excited by a Doueihi, AJ type player. I would liek the club to go for a player who excels in their position. For too long we have had "beige" footballers, a bit of this a bit of that, can play multiple positions, not big, not fast but ok.

I want the club to sign a James Roberts/BJ Leilua type player. Sure both dumb as dogshit and will make mistakes but they are out and out centres and have impact. Not beige.

 

[hobbo1]

WT Nation
5 hrs ·
The club has been put off by his current salary, however, and will not be interested without a financial contribution from South Sydney.

#WTNation

WT Nation is the Clubs media dept's FB page..

Seems odd that the club would run two separate pages.

Not really ..Wests Tigers Official gets a heap of abusive posts..

WT Nation was set up more as a fan page...for the feels..

Yeah fair enough. Always assumed it was just a nuffy fan who ran it.

Nah .. that’s Wests Tigers should be a blood type ....

 

[Russell]

I’m gonna say a name that may cop some backlash but I honestly think Jack Bird could be a good signing for us, definitely will not be commanding the money he is getting currently and would almost certainly have Brisbane chip in a bit for his final year of his contract and could also maybe insert a club option in the second year depending on his form

He’s still only 24 and maybe a change of scenery and coming back to Sydney could do him good

Would much prefer to have Bird over Doueihi at the club imo

Bird is right - he is a shot duck.

 

[Russell]

It’s crazy how a missed conversion kick and a dodgy call , for Brisbane at the start of last year , are the difference between the feeling of we suck and we are moving on up.

Yeah but looking at it from the other side. Chee Kam doesn't score those two match winners and we finish 14th.

And if Momo doesn't score his 8 tries and miss all his goals we might've finished last.

 

[avocadoontoast]

It’s crazy how a missed conversion kick and a dodgy call , for Brisbane at the start of last year , are the difference between the feeling of we suck and we are moving on up.

Yeah but looking at it from the other side. Chee Kam doesn't score those two match winners and we finish 14th.

And if Momo doesn't score his 8 tries and miss all his goals we might've finished last.

and if he got that one from right in front against the dogs we probably make the eight. My point was that there's a million variables, some going for us, some against us.

 

[Russell]

It’s crazy how a missed conversion kick and a dodgy call , for Brisbane at the start of last year , are the difference between the feeling of we suck and we are moving on up.

Yeah but looking at it from the other side. Chee Kam doesn't score those two match winners and we finish 14th.

And if Momo doesn't score his 8 tries and miss all his goals we might've finished last.

and if he got that one from right in front against the dogs we probably make the eight. My point was that there's a million variables, some going for us, some against us.

It’s crazy how a missed conversion kick and a dodgy call , for Brisbane at the start of last year , are the difference between the feeling of we suck and we are moving on up.

Yeah but looking at it from the other side. Chee Kam doesn't score those two match winners and we finish 14th.

And if Momo doesn't score his 8 tries and miss all his goals we might've finished last.

and if he got that one from right in front against the dogs we probably make the eight. My point was that there's a million variables, some going for us, some against us.

Then we both think alike. Yeah!!!!!

 

[avocadoontoast]

It’s crazy how a missed conversion kick and a dodgy call , for Brisbane at the start of last year , are the difference between the feeling of we suck and we are moving on up.

Yeah but looking at it from the other side. Chee Kam doesn't score those two match winners and we finish 14th.

And if Momo doesn't score his 8 tries and miss all his goals we might've finished last.

and if he got that one from right in front against the dogs we probably make the eight. My point was that there's a million variables, some going for us, some against us.

It’s crazy how a missed conversion kick and a dodgy call , for Brisbane at the start of last year , are the difference between the feeling of we suck and we are moving on up.

Yeah but looking at it from the other side. Chee Kam doesn't score those two match winners and we finish 14th.

And if Momo doesn't score his 8 tries and miss all his goals we might've finished last.

and if he got that one from right in front against the dogs we probably make the eight. My point was that there's a million variables, some going for us, some against us.

Then we both think alike. Yeah!!!!!

Haha there's a first time for everything.

 

[Russell]

It’s crazy how a missed conversion kick and a dodgy call , for Brisbane at the start of last year , are the difference between the feeling of we suck and we are moving on up.

Yeah but looking at it from the other side. Chee Kam doesn't score those two match winners and we finish 14th.

And if Momo doesn't score his 8 tries and miss all his goals we might've finished last.

and if he got that one from right in front against the dogs we probably make the eight. My point was that there's a million variables, some going for us, some against us.

It’s crazy how a missed conversion kick and a dodgy call , for Brisbane at the start of last year , are the difference between the feeling of we suck and we are moving on up.

Yeah but looking at it from the other side. Chee Kam doesn't score those two match winners and we finish 14th.

And if Momo doesn't score his 8 tries and miss all his goals we might've finished last.

and if he got that one from right in front against the dogs we probably make the eight. My point was that there's a million variables, some going for us, some against us.

Then we both think alike. Yeah!!!!!

Haha there's a first time for everything.

Maybe this is the year for firsts, Avo.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

There also has to be some objectivity about where the club is at presently and where it has come from.
Blind Freddy knows that to be successful on the field you need to be financially sound off it. You can’t have one without the other. So to be so dismissive of those improvements as if they are insignificant, stinks of someone with a cross to bare rather than someone who wants to discuss things rationally. Blanket blaming is a cop out and identifies nothing - “the club” we have at the moment is nothing like “the club” it was 5 years ago and nor are the people making the decisions.

I don't have a cross to bear at all. Why would I? I'm a supporter of the club and I want us to be successful. It's something i've invested significant time and money in throughout my life. However, i'm also going to call it as I see it and until we start to see some success on the field I won't be satisfied.

I agree with you completely!

We could be the best financial club in the competition and that doesn't mean anything until it translates to result on the field.

For too long have we said things will be better next year and its not, now here we are in January and we already have people saying we are building for next year, or we are signing up all the best juniors and we have to be patient. I was patient when we had the last crop of "best juniors" coming through and that got us nowhere, even when we had them a couple of years into their careers we still missed the finals. I was here when people, including myself, were saying the independent board would deliver results, it didn't.

I am just as excited as anyone about the juniors we have attracted, but I am ready for us to see improvements on the field now, not in 1-2 years time. I will still be here no matter what, I'll be in my seats at all grounds and travel to Tamworth no matter what. For those saying to be patient and having a go at people who want improvements now, we are allowed to be sceptical because for the last 9 years all this club has shown is failure.

Until we get the training facilities and corporate facilities , where we can transcend the pretty obvious optics of being a second class club , we are going to find it difficult.
It’s a perception thing. All we can do is build the platform we currently are, where we have strong juniors , a competitive team , and make awesome financial strides off the field . It’s crazy how a missed conversion kick and a dodgy call , for Brisbane at the start of last year , are the difference between the feeling of we suck and we are moving on up.
And really we are talking about playing 1 more game of footy. Kind of weird how close as tigers fans we come to actual success .

A lot of that is just making excuses though, many other clubs have similar issues and are able to find a way through it. I and a lot of others want to see us moving forward, 9th is not enough anymore. To be moving into 2020 with an arguably worst top 30 than last year is unforgivable in my opinion, especially in the way we downgraded our roster while our actions improved the roster of others.

Do they though ? Manly and Cronulla are both geographically superior. Players want to play there as they can live on the beach and almost walk to work . Souths roosters, Canterbury Penrith and the slime-balls all have elite facilities. When you say it like that , we have the least to offer clubs as of 2020 . You add the facilities and we start to compare more . But you’re ? right . Winning definitely is the main goal. I personally for the 1st time this year , feel like we are moving towards something . Even the sheenius years , felt like we caught lightning in a bottle :

 

[Tiger5150]

There also has to be some objectivity about where the club is at presently and where it has come from.
Blind Freddy knows that to be successful on the field you need to be financially sound off it. You can’t have one without the other. So to be so dismissive of those improvements as if they are insignificant, stinks of someone with a cross to bare rather than someone who wants to discuss things rationally. Blanket blaming is a cop out and identifies nothing - “the club” we have at the moment is nothing like “the club” it was 5 years ago and nor are the people making the decisions.

I don't have a cross to bear at all. Why would I? I'm a supporter of the club and I want us to be successful. It's something i've invested significant time and money in throughout my life. However, i'm also going to call it as I see it and until we start to see some success on the field I won't be satisfied.

I agree with you completely!

We could be the best financial club in the competition and that doesn't mean anything until it translates to result on the field.

For too long have we said things will be better next year and its not, now here we are in January and we already have people saying we are building for next year, or we are signing up all the best juniors and we have to be patient. I was patient when we had the last crop of "best juniors" coming through and that got us nowhere, even when we had them a couple of years into their careers we still missed the finals. I was here when people, including myself, were saying the independent board would deliver results, it didn't.

I am just as excited as anyone about the juniors we have attracted, but I am ready for us to see improvements on the field now, not in 1-2 years time. I will still be here no matter what, I'll be in my seats at all grounds and travel to Tamworth no matter what. For those saying to be patient and having a go at people who want improvements now, we are allowed to be sceptical because for the last 9 years all this club has shown is failure.

Until we get the training facilities and corporate facilities , where we can transcend the pretty obvious optics of being a second class club , we are going to find it difficult.
It’s a perception thing. All we can do is build the platform we currently are, where we have strong juniors , a competitive team , and make awesome financial strides off the field . It’s crazy how a missed conversion kick and a dodgy call , for Brisbane at the start of last year , are the difference between the feeling of we suck and we are moving on up.
And really we are talking about playing 1 more game of footy. Kind of weird how close as tigers fans we come to actual success .

A lot of that is just making excuses though, many other clubs have similar issues and are able to find a way through it. I and a lot of others want to see us moving forward, 9th is not enough anymore. To be moving into 2020 with an arguably worst top 30 than last year is unforgivable in my opinion, especially in the way we downgraded our roster while our actions improved the roster of others.


Do they though ? Manly and Cronulla are both geographically superior. Players want to play there as they can live on the beach and almost walk to work . Souths roosters, Canterbury Penrith and the slime-balls all have elite facilities. When you say it like that , we have the least to offer clubs as of 2020 . You add the facilities and we start to compare more . But you’re ? right . Winning definitely is the main goal. I personally for the 1st time this year , feel like we are moving towards something . Even the sheenius years , felt like we caught lightning in a bottle :

i agree with this. Of course its easy to point at decades of poor performance and declare we are rubbish, but IMO if you look at every parameter, there is clear improvements. Things are definitely moving forward and next year will be critical that even without substantial improvements in the roster that we improve.

 

[cochise]

There also has to be some objectivity about where the club is at presently and where it has come from.
Blind Freddy knows that to be successful on the field you need to be financially sound off it. You can’t have one without the other. So to be so dismissive of those improvements as if they are insignificant, stinks of someone with a cross to bare rather than someone who wants to discuss things rationally. Blanket blaming is a cop out and identifies nothing - “the club” we have at the moment is nothing like “the club” it was 5 years ago and nor are the people making the decisions.

I don't have a cross to bear at all. Why would I? I'm a supporter of the club and I want us to be successful. It's something i've invested significant time and money in throughout my life. However, i'm also going to call it as I see it and until we start to see some success on the field I won't be satisfied.

I agree with you completely!

We could be the best financial club in the competition and that doesn't mean anything until it translates to result on the field.

For too long have we said things will be better next year and its not, now here we are in January and we already have people saying we are building for next year, or we are signing up all the best juniors and we have to be patient. I was patient when we had the last crop of "best juniors" coming through and that got us nowhere, even when we had them a couple of years into their careers we still missed the finals. I was here when people, including myself, were saying the independent board would deliver results, it didn't.

I am just as excited as anyone about the juniors we have attracted, but I am ready for us to see improvements on the field now, not in 1-2 years time. I will still be here no matter what, I'll be in my seats at all grounds and travel to Tamworth no matter what. For those saying to be patient and having a go at people who want improvements now, we are allowed to be sceptical because for the last 9 years all this club has shown is failure.

Until we get the training facilities and corporate facilities , where we can transcend the pretty obvious optics of being a second class club , we are going to find it difficult.
It’s a perception thing. All we can do is build the platform we currently are, where we have strong juniors , a competitive team , and make awesome financial strides off the field . It’s crazy how a missed conversion kick and a dodgy call , for Brisbane at the start of last year , are the difference between the feeling of we suck and we are moving on up.
And really we are talking about playing 1 more game of footy. Kind of weird how close as tigers fans we come to actual success .

A lot of that is just making excuses though, many other clubs have similar issues and are able to find a way through it. I and a lot of others want to see us moving forward, 9th is not enough anymore. To be moving into 2020 with an arguably worst top 30 than last year is unforgivable in my opinion, especially in the way we downgraded our roster while our actions improved the roster of others.


Do they though ? Manly and Cronulla are both geographically superior. Players want to play there as they can live on the beach and almost walk to work . Souths roosters, Canterbury Penrith and the slime-balls all have elite facilities. When you say it like that , we have the least to offer clubs as of 2020 . You add the facilities and we start to compare more . But you’re ? right . Winning definitely is the main goal. I personally for the 1st time this year , feel like we are moving towards something . Even the sheenius years , felt like we caught lightning in a bottle :

2010 and 2011 were not lightning in a bottle, that was far and away the best roster we have ever fielded and that squad really should have won a premiership at some point.

We may have the least to offer in some regards but in the most important area (money) we have had the most to offer, and so far have come up short. It is not just the lack of signings that has disappointed me, it is the fact the decisions we made improved the rosters of other clubs. I believe a situation where we frontload contracts this year is unacceptable when the squad we are entering 2020 with needs improvement.

 

[Dyloh]

I feel like there's zero downside to Doueihi? Doesnt work out at fullback, We would have a 5/8 for Benji. Worst case scenario we finally get some size on the wings.


The potential downside to Doueihi is that potentially we have another player on the roster who is a utility, pretty good at many but not elite at any a la Mbye, Thompson & MCK. If we end up with three utilities we are entrenching mediocrity.

That said, the kid is young and at least tall and may still grow into a position.

I think hes only got that utility tag because hes been behind Brooks, Teddy, Moses, Reynolds, Walker and Ingless. I may have missed it but I'm pretty sure no team's give him a proper crack yet, just fills in where and when hes needed.

 

[jirskyr]

Not that worried, being patient. Meanwhile, Melbourne Storm - only 23 players signed

But but why is the club releasing players without ready-made replacements available? Blah blah blah

 

[Ponyo]

Not that worried, being patient. Meanwhile, Melbourne Storm - only 23 players signed

But but why is the club releasing players without ready-made replacements available? Blah blah blah

Right...Melbourne don't have $$$ either

 

[jirskyr]

He also said Titans were being silly about releasing Arrow

Starting to get the impression some Souths fans feel almost as entitled as Parra fans.

If I was Titans I'd totally screw Souths over, what do Titans have to lose?

 

[Newtown]

I feel like there's zero downside to Doueihi? Doesnt work out at fullback we got a 5/8 for Benji? Worst case scenario we finally get some size on the wings.

I do worry about succession planning. Who is the candidate to replace Benji?

Reynolds?

 

[avocadoontoast]

If Pascoe keeps trying to play hardball and we miss out on Douehi for the sake of $100k it will be a bad move for the club. He’s an excellent player that hasn’t yet reached his prime. He will increase our chances of making the 8 in 2020. No point going into March with $1m in the bank.