Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[GNR4LIFE]

mate he is in good coin for a winger yes he has had a good 6 games but been awful defensively for the last 4 years. We have better option out there for the money.
i am entitled to want to replace with better wingers and JAC is an upgrade in my opinion or a cheaper option.
GNR4LIFE show me where Jennings has hurt you then given you knock him all the time too same difference mate

I don’t have to knock a player who probably won’t ever wear our jersey again. I wish him well in all his future endeavours

 

[CCTW]

mate he is in good coin for a winger yes he has had a good 6 games but been awful defensively for the last 4 years. We have better option out there for the money.
i am entitled to want to replace with better wingers and JAC is an upgrade in my opinion or a cheaper option.
GNR4LIFE show me where Jennings has hurt you then given you knock him all the time too same difference mate

Sorry to keep smashing you, but i am really struggling to understand your logic here.

You're saying that Nofoaluma needs to be replaced because he is average defensively (been much better this year) and because there are better wingers out there.

Yet you've been pushing for the Tigers to sign Euan Aitken for the better part of 12 months despite the fact that he is downright awful in defense and is not even a preferred starting centre in one of the worst teams in the competition...

I'm not saying you are right or wrong about Nofoaluma and most definitely entitled to your opinion, but the argument needs to be balanced and consistent.

FYI - The money Nofoaluma is on really isn't that much for a winger these days. Pretty much most wingers in the competition with over 100 games are on 400k+. In fact there are quite a few players who were signed on fullback money playing on the wing week in week out.

 

[swag_tiger]

Think of Valentine Holmes for the Cowboys. They paid fullback money and he may be stuck on the wing for now on.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Think of Valentine Holmes for the Cowboys. They paid fullback money and he may be stuck on the wing for now on.

Was just a dumb signing. He's a decent winger, that's it. 6 year deal worth almost $5m (according to reports at the time).

 

[JC99]

Think of Valentine Holmes for the Cowboys. They paid fullback money and he may be stuck on the wing for now on.

Doesn’t help that Paul green rushed him back from injury when he wasn’t fit too. Rubbish coach

 

[Geo]

i just cant believe obtaining two origin wingers is better than Nofo
The loyalty from some is insane

We already have a player like Nofa at the club on the same level as those players many supporters would agree I feel and also the fact he WANTS to be at the club and has proved to be one our best players this year and shows more heart in every game he plays with his dirty runs from our goal line and ability to beat a number of tackles, and the man can also find the try line easily - (one of my greatest fan moments was when the club was in a rock bottom period I think during the Jason Taylor vs Farah days and he scored in the corner with just pure grit while others weren’t even showing any effort at all (cough... Mitchell Moses) and he got up and went straight to the camera and kissed the badge and went ballistic and fired everyone up including myself in a game where no one turned up besides himself and probably teddy lol)

You speak about NSW origin wingers but statically he should be one of the first wingers selected if NSW were picking the team today, we need one winger I agree, however I wouldn’t swap Nofa for anyone bc you can teach skill and he has plenty regardless, but you can’t teach the heart and passion he possesses to have the combination of being skill full and also being legitimately passionate about your club is as valuable as anything and that’s what truely wins premierships

There’s other areas we can spend that money which would be way more beneficial to the club

And this is why we don't play finals footy. We settle for passion over quality. Origin wingers are on less than him but we'd rather have a known, loyal player than try and sign the best players we possibly can. It's a loser mentality.

Until we start making semis ,Origin wingers wont come to WT .for a market price..and besdies,Nofa has outplayed ferguson and a somewhat disinterested JAD this season,and Johnston has only fired up for the first time in years because hes getting punted

JAC has been very good for a very long time. He is a current SOO and Kangaroo rep. He has some personal issues but as far as consistency is concerned, this is Nofoaluma's first year he has performed well but he is on overs, more than a SOO and Aust rep which is madness.


Here is a breakdown of each players attack and defence running metres by season etc ..with no names..which winger would you pick..?

Remembering 1 play for the Storm 1 plays for us

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

But Nofo kisses that badge and he shows passion so lets forget he is in overs and better wingers are out there at the price. As Balmain Boy said it is a loser mentality to not strive to sign better than what we have.

What I find funny is that you are triggered on replacing Nofo to improve both wings but keep pushing Aitken who is no better than a reggie center & wouldn’t make our side better let alone top contender.

Nofo is in the top class of wingers in the NRL this season. Fergo isn’t playing better than him & won’t leave Parra, JAC isn’t playing better than him either (he has had some terrible games dropping bombs, missing tackles, falling over etc), everyone focuses on JAC speed = line breaks and tries = nofo in a worse team is out performing.

Morris twins are brilliant and would grab in an instance, Cotric will ask for a heap of cash for a bidding war, outside of that there isn’t any better options.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

i just cant believe obtaining two origin wingers is better than Nofo
The loyalty from some is insane

We already have a player like Nofa at the club on the same level as those players many supporters would agree I feel and also the fact he WANTS to be at the club and has proved to be one our best players this year and shows more heart in every game he plays with his dirty runs from our goal line and ability to beat a number of tackles, and the man can also find the try line easily - (one of my greatest fan moments was when the club was in a rock bottom period I think during the Jason Taylor vs Farah days and he scored in the corner with just pure grit while others weren’t even showing any effort at all (cough... Mitchell Moses) and he got up and went straight to the camera and kissed the badge and went ballistic and fired everyone up including myself in a game where no one turned up besides himself and probably teddy lol)

You speak about NSW origin wingers but statically he should be one of the first wingers selected if NSW were picking the team today, we need one winger I agree, however I wouldn’t swap Nofa for anyone bc you can teach skill and he has plenty regardless, but you can’t teach the heart and passion he possesses to have the combination of being skill full and also being legitimately passionate about your club is as valuable as anything and that’s what truely wins premierships

There’s other areas we can spend that money which would be way more beneficial to the club

And this is why we don't play finals footy. We settle for passion over quality. Origin wingers are on less than him but we'd rather have a known, loyal player than try and sign the best players we possibly can. It's a loser mentality.

Until we start making semis ,Origin wingers wont come to WT .for a market price..and besdies,Nofa has outplayed ferguson and a somewhat disinterested JAD this season,and Johnston has only fired up for the first time in years because hes getting punted

JAC has been very good for a very long time. He is a current SOO and Kangaroo rep. He has some personal issues but as far as consistency is concerned, this is Nofoaluma's first year he has performed well but he is on overs, more than a SOO and Aust rep which is madness.

We know he is contracted till 2021 so what is he actually on currently?
I certainly like NOFO however when it comes to new deals in future we need to ensure we are no longer paying overs, so the sake of all the team.

 

[Furious1]

On form this year Nofo is in the top couple of wingers in the comp. He has been enormous for us in the last month.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

i just cant believe obtaining two origin wingers is better than Nofo
The loyalty from some is insane

We already have a player like Nofa at the club on the same level as those players many supporters would agree I feel and also the fact he WANTS to be at the club and has proved to be one our best players this year and shows more heart in every game he plays with his dirty runs from our goal line and ability to beat a number of tackles, and the man can also find the try line easily - (one of my greatest fan moments was when the club was in a rock bottom period I think during the Jason Taylor vs Farah days and he scored in the corner with just pure grit while others weren’t even showing any effort at all (cough... Mitchell Moses) and he got up and went straight to the camera and kissed the badge and went ballistic and fired everyone up including myself in a game where no one turned up besides himself and probably teddy lol)

You speak about NSW origin wingers but statically he should be one of the first wingers selected if NSW were picking the team today, we need one winger I agree, however I wouldn’t swap Nofa for anyone bc you can teach skill and he has plenty regardless, but you can’t teach the heart and passion he possesses to have the combination of being skill full and also being legitimately passionate about your club is as valuable as anything and that’s what truely wins premierships

There’s other areas we can spend that money which would be way more beneficial to the club

And this is why we don't play finals footy. We settle for passion over quality. Origin wingers are on less than him but we'd rather have a known, loyal player than try and sign the best players we possibly can. It's a loser mentality.

Until we start making semis ,Origin wingers wont come to WT .for a market price..and besdies,Nofa has outplayed ferguson and a somewhat disinterested JAD this season,and Johnston has only fired up for the first time in years because hes getting punted

JAC has been very good for a very long time. He is a current SOO and Kangaroo rep. He has some personal issues but as far as consistency is concerned, this is Nofoaluma's first year he has performed well but he is on overs, more than a SOO and Aust rep which is madness.


Here is a breakdown of each players attack and defence running metres by season etc ..with no names..which winger would you pick..?

Remembering 1 play for the Storm 1 plays for us

Can you provide the forum with a breakdown/stats for each SOO and Kangaroo game played by Nofoaluma and JAC?

 

[jirskyr]

I know form is temporary but I'm not particularly impressed by JAC or Cotric so far in 2020. If I was to pick a Storm backliner to sign up I'd rather Vunivalu or Olam, because we want punch as much as speed.

JAC might have peaked, I know he's a rep incumbent, I just have this gnawing feeling. It may also be that COVID has simply interrupted a lot of preparation and not all footballers are coping in the same manner, which might make 2021 a totally different proposition.

Same with Cotric, I have been underwhelmed with his wing play and he's going to be asking for top money. The guys is definitely an athlete but he's played 78 matches over 4 seasons now, I'm still waiting for him to go to that next level. Whenever he's been played in the centres I think he has proven himself a better winger, which is a shame for him because he originally looked like a rep-quality centre in the making.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

But Nofo kisses that badge and he shows passion so lets forget he is in overs and better wingers are out there at the price. As Balmain Boy said it is a loser mentality to not strive to sign better than what we have.

What I find funny is that you are triggered on replacing Nofo to improve both wings but keep pushing Aitken who is no better than a reggie center & wouldn’t make our side better let alone top contender.

Nofo is in the top class of wingers in the NRL this season. Fergo isn’t playing better than him & won’t leave Parra, JAC isn’t playing better than him either (he has had some terrible games dropping bombs, missing tackles, falling over etc), everyone focuses on JAC speed = line breaks and tries = nofo in a worse team is out performing.

Morris twins are brilliant and would grab in an instance, Cotric will ask for a heap of cash for a bidding war, outside of that there isn’t any better options.

Agree, my wish list
1 Tupou
2 Codric
3 Morris (Brad or Josh)
4 Koroibate
5 Radradra
6 Johnston
7 Graham
8 Oats

 

[dazza65]

I really like that Brad Morris (sorry @InBenjiWeTrust couldn't help it)....

 

[Geo]

i just cant believe obtaining two origin wingers is better than Nofo
The loyalty from some is insane

We already have a player like Nofa at the club on the same level as those players many supporters would agree I feel and also the fact he WANTS to be at the club and has proved to be one our best players this year and shows more heart in every game he plays with his dirty runs from our goal line and ability to beat a number of tackles, and the man can also find the try line easily - (one of my greatest fan moments was when the club was in a rock bottom period I think during the Jason Taylor vs Farah days and he scored in the corner with just pure grit while others weren’t even showing any effort at all (cough... Mitchell Moses) and he got up and went straight to the camera and kissed the badge and went ballistic and fired everyone up including myself in a game where no one turned up besides himself and probably teddy lol)

You speak about NSW origin wingers but statically he should be one of the first wingers selected if NSW were picking the team today, we need one winger I agree, however I wouldn’t swap Nofa for anyone bc you can teach skill and he has plenty regardless, but you can’t teach the heart and passion he possesses to have the combination of being skill full and also being legitimately passionate about your club is as valuable as anything and that’s what truely wins premierships

There’s other areas we can spend that money which would be way more beneficial to the club

And this is why we don't play finals footy. We settle for passion over quality. Origin wingers are on less than him but we'd rather have a known, loyal player than try and sign the best players we possibly can. It's a loser mentality.

Until we start making semis ,Origin wingers wont come to WT .for a market price..and besdies,Nofa has outplayed ferguson and a somewhat disinterested JAD this season,and Johnston has only fired up for the first time in years because hes getting punted

JAC has been very good for a very long time. He is a current SOO and Kangaroo rep. He has some personal issues but as far as consistency is concerned, this is Nofoaluma's first year he has performed well but he is on overs, more than a SOO and Aust rep which is madness.


Here is a breakdown of each players attack and defence running metres by season etc ..with no names..which winger would you pick..?

Remembering 1 play for the Storm 1 plays for us

Can you provide the forum with a breakdown/stats for each SOO and Kangaroo game played by Nofoaluma and JAC?

Not sure what that has to do with Club football ..given that SOO and Test Football involve elite talent from all Clubs and are played in 3 games or 1 off tests and would never fit in a NRL cap..not the week to week grind of NRL seasons

I could provide Nofoaluma's Samoan representation v Addo-Carr's if that would help you pick one..

I believe this was your statement *JAC has been very good for a very long time. He is a current SOO and Kangaroo rep. He has some personal issues but as far as **consistency is concerned**, this is **Nofoaluma's first year he has performed well***

 

[the_third]

People’s incessant focus on what a player is paid completely clouds the issue.

I don’t get it

 

[pawsandclaws1]

i just cant believe obtaining two origin wingers is better than Nofo
The loyalty from some is insane

We already have a player like Nofa at the club on the same level as those players many supporters would agree I feel and also the fact he WANTS to be at the club and has proved to be one our best players this year and shows more heart in every game he plays with his dirty runs from our goal line and ability to beat a number of tackles, and the man can also find the try line easily - (one of my greatest fan moments was when the club was in a rock bottom period I think during the Jason Taylor vs Farah days and he scored in the corner with just pure grit while others weren’t even showing any effort at all (cough... Mitchell Moses) and he got up and went straight to the camera and kissed the badge and went ballistic and fired everyone up including myself in a game where no one turned up besides himself and probably teddy lol)

You speak about NSW origin wingers but statically he should be one of the first wingers selected if NSW were picking the team today, we need one winger I agree, however I wouldn’t swap Nofa for anyone bc you can teach skill and he has plenty regardless, but you can’t teach the heart and passion he possesses to have the combination of being skill full and also being legitimately passionate about your club is as valuable as anything and that’s what truely wins premierships

There’s other areas we can spend that money which would be way more beneficial to the club

And this is why we don't play finals footy. We settle for passion over quality. Origin wingers are on less than him but we'd rather have a known, loyal player than try and sign the best players we possibly can. It's a loser mentality.

Until we start making semis ,Origin wingers wont come to WT .for a market price..and besdies,Nofa has outplayed ferguson and a somewhat disinterested JAD this season,and Johnston has only fired up for the first time in years because hes getting punted

JAC has been very good for a very long time. He is a current SOO and Kangaroo rep. He has some personal issues but as far as consistency is concerned, this is Nofoaluma's first year he has performed well but he is on overs, more than a SOO and Aust rep which is madness.


Here is a breakdown of each players attack and defence running metres by season etc ..with no names..which winger would you pick..?

Remembering 1 play for the Storm 1 plays for us

Can you provide the forum with a breakdown/stats for each SOO and Kangaroo game played by Nofoaluma and JAC?

Not sure what that has to do with Club football ..given that SOO and Test Football involve elite talent from all Clubs and are played in 3 games or 1 off tests and would never fit in a NRL cap..not the week to week grind of NRL seasons

I could provide Nofoaluma's Samoan representation v Addo-Carr's if that would help you pick one..

I believe this was your statement *JAC has been very good for a very long time. He is a current SOO and Kangaroo rep. He has some personal issues but as far as **consistency is concerned**, this is **Nofoaluma's first year he has performed well***

The issue being JAC has performed at the highest level by participating in SOO. and Kangaroo tests. Selection into these teams is difficult and an honour. It is recognition of his performance/skills/pace by selectors. Nofoaluma has never been selected. Bring out all the stats you can but there is no getting around this fact.

The tackle that JAC produced in the SOO where Walker and Mitchell. were having difficulties required exceptional pace to make. All the stats in the. world will not reflect the 6 points he saved and it's importance. in the context. of the. game. Nofoaluma couldn't have made that tackle because he does not have the pace.

 

[JC99]

Not sure why Nofa and JAC are being compared. If we did sign JAC he would play left wing and Nofa on the right. It’s our left wing that’s the issue at the moment not the right

With the amount of backs we will have on the books next year wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t go after him at all, but I reckon a Momirovski for JAC swap could be on the cards

 

[TYGA]

Our off contract players for this year are (10)
Oliver Clark, Matthew Eisenhuth, Robert Jennings, Chris Lawrence, Benji Marshall, Sam McIntyre, Chris McQueen, Alex Seyfarth, Dylan Smith, Elijah Taylor.

The only players that look like we should resign are McIntyre and maybe Seyfarth/ Eisenhuth.

Based on our team now and assuming we can steal Harry Grant our lineup next year is better than recent memory.

1. Douihei
2. Nofa
3. BJ
4. Mbye
5. Talau
6. Reynolds
7. Brooks
8. Aloai
9. Harry Grant
10. Mikalele
11. Garner
12. Luciano
13. Twal
14. Stefano
15. Momirovski
16. McIntyre
17. Musgrove

We would have some depth Liddle, Hoffman, Simpkin, Blore, MCK, Eisenhuth, Seyfarth, Madden, Cini, Bradley, Scolari etc.

In my view we need to sign starters that push some players back in the depth chart to get better.

Personally I’d like to see Talau in the centre’s and Mbye as a 14 with a gun winger on the left JAC or Korobiete would be great.

CHN moving Garner to the bench would make us more formidable.

Long term replacement for Reynolds I’d make a big offer for Matt Burton from the Panthers.

A few changes and we will be a top 6 side consistently.

 

[teddy23]

i just cant believe obtaining two origin wingers is better than Nofo
The loyalty from some is insane

We already have a player like Nofa at the club on the same level as those players many supporters would agree I feel and also the fact he WANTS to be at the club and has proved to be one our best players this year and shows more heart in every game he plays with his dirty runs from our goal line and ability to beat a number of tackles, and the man can also find the try line easily - (one of my greatest fan moments was when the club was in a rock bottom period I think during the Jason Taylor vs Farah days and he scored in the corner with just pure grit while others weren’t even showing any effort at all (cough... Mitchell Moses) and he got up and went straight to the camera and kissed the badge and went ballistic and fired everyone up including myself in a game where no one turned up besides himself and probably teddy lol)

You speak about NSW origin wingers but statically he should be one of the first wingers selected if NSW were picking the team today, we need one winger I agree, however I wouldn’t swap Nofa for anyone bc you can teach skill and he has plenty regardless, but you can’t teach the heart and passion he possesses to have the combination of being skill full and also being legitimately passionate about your club is as valuable as anything and that’s what truely wins premierships

There’s other areas we can spend that money which would be way more beneficial to the club

And this is why we don't play finals footy. We settle for passion over quality. Origin wingers are on less than him but we'd rather have a known, loyal player than try and sign the best players we possibly can. It's a loser mentality.

You’re acting as if Nofa is some nuffie, my point was to have a player who’s talented and passionate about your club is such a valuable asset and shouldn’t be taken for granted

He’s outplaying 95% of wingers this year....

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Think of Valentine Holmes for the Cowboys. They paid fullback money and he may be stuck on the wing for now on.

Was just a dumb signing. He's a decent winger, that's it. 6 year deal worth almost $5m (according to reports at the time).

Definitely a dumb signing, Holmes only shines when he has good players around him (i.e. Sharks Premiership team and SOO) - the Cowboys can’t offer him that at present.