Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205026) said:
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205025) said:
@Fletch said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205023) said:
@tbones10 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205017) said:
@CocaCola said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205012) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204991) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204989) said:
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204984) said:
Titans have ruled out move for Mbye, which is not surprising.hate to say it but we are stuck with him for the remainder of his contract. There will be no takers even if we pay half.

Try him in the halves imo. He’s fast with a good passing game. With the right coaching I think he could be a quality match for brooks.

Playing him at 6 for next season is actually a pretty decent option I reckon. No idea how good his kicking game is though

Lets not roll the dice next season with positional changes.

Do it this year as it can't get anyworse as it is. It's likely we won't have much to play for anyway.

Everyone has being saying he's a running 6 for years, the only CLOWNS that don't get it are the ones running the show. He'll, I even believe with his leg speed, handling and ability to chime in, he could be a handy 1.

Joey Johns suggests the Dogs recruit Mbye to partner Foran in the halves next year as a running 5/8. Particularly if the Tigers are going to pay half his wages.

Maybe the Tigers should try Brooks and Mbye in the halves, got nothing to lose. If it works out ok then the club can retire Benji and try and offload JRey.

I actually think that’s the only option left for us to try and get some value out of him. I always thought he was a much better half than Reynolds when they were both at the dogs.

How good is his kicking game? He’s got good passing and he’s decently fast.

I think it’s decent from memory, was quite good at getting repeat sets but that was years ago. If we went that way we’d have to give him time there because he’ll be rusty but it is his natural position.
 
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205060) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205051) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205049) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205047) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205046) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205034) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204950) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204886) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204845) said:
I’ve suggested Brooks could be moved on as the most attractive option to free cap space.
Mutually beneficial for both.

Who do we replace him with you ask?
Can’t get a half for the same money you say.

That may be true but in an adjacent conversation we are constantly talking about how Doueihi isn’t a fullback and would be better suited at five eight.

Whose currently playing in the five eight position?

As some mentioned Madden or Flanagan but all in all replace him with a halfback and buy a specialist fullback.

I think Barrett could do wonders with Brooks.

Why can't we do wonders with Brooks?

Cleary could. What you have written seems to concede we have a coaching issue.

There are no bad soldiers, only bad leaders.

He needs someone that can give him that confidence. Believes in his ability.
I’m not even sure Cleary did. Remember from the moment we signed Cleary there was talk of him wanting his Son to play for him. Maybe that challenge spurred Brooks on, who knows.

Cleary got him playing outstandingly well.

We also had forwards who were willing to, or could offload.

Cleary Jnr and Brooks would have made an outstanding combination.

We cannot afford to lose another player of Brooks' calibre.

If the current coach can't get the best from him, that is where the issue starts and ends.

Don’t forget that Brooks was our player of the year last season playing under Madge. Considering he did well I doubt Madge would’ve changed much of his game in the off season. Sometimes it has to go down to the player - maybe the break and the early injury and the whole COVID thing has affected him too.

It’s up to the coach to figure out how to fix it though and he’s trying, hopefully he has a good game against the doggies and he builds some confidence.

Bring in specialist coaching like the other clubs. Moses has Johns, Papenhuyzen has Slater, is Cronk helping Flanagan? Put egos aside and provide the specialist coaching required.

I agree, we could definitely use a halves coach for our guys. Was it Cleary or Madge that tried to bring in Daley? That would’ve been great.

That was Maguire which is great and I applaud him for trying. But we need Daley, one of the Johns etc to assist.

Didn't Daley get knocked back due to conflict of interests with a sponsor or something?

He was but we have new NRL leadership now.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204964) said:
@Aesopian said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204874) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204862) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204861) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204850) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204791) said:
I know he just knocked it on, but how about Tyrone May as a half/five eighth?
He's off contract after this year.

No

Awesome player but panther through and through

Wouldn’t come to us

Bog average imo
Plus he’s a flog

He is the reason the 'No DH Policy' exists...

I must have been in a coma when the club made that policy official.

Never said the club had one. Simply pointing out that if an organisation had a 'No DH Policy' T.May would fail with flying colours
 
@Fletch said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205023) said:
@tbones10 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205017) said:
@CocaCola said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205012) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204991) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204989) said:
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204984) said:
Titans have ruled out move for Mbye, which is not surprising.hate to say it but we are stuck with him for the remainder of his contract. There will be no takers even if we pay half.

Try him in the halves imo. He’s fast with a good passing game. With the right coaching I think he could be a quality match for brooks.

Playing him at 6 for next season is actually a pretty decent option I reckon. No idea how good his kicking game is though

Lets not roll the dice next season with positional changes.

Do it this year as it can't get anyworse as it is. It's likely we won't have much to play for anyway.

Everyone has being saying he's a running 6 for years, the only CLOWNS that don't get it are the ones running the show. He'll, I even believe with his leg speed, handling and ability to chime in, he could be a handy 1.

Joey Johns suggests the Dogs recruit Mbye to partner Foran in the halves next year as a running 5/8. Particularly if the Tigers are going to pay half his wages.

Maybe the Tigers should try Brooks and Mbye in the halves, got nothing to lose. If it works out ok then the club can retire Benji and try and offload JRey.

I think the issue here is that Mbye and Brooks both play on the left. Mbye spent his career on the left at the Dogs.
Left = Brooks, Walters, Mbye
Right = Benji, Reynolds, Doueihi

Although I suspect Doueihi and possibly Walters could play both sides.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205063) said:
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205060) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205051) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205049) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205047) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205046) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205034) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204950) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204886) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204845) said:
I’ve suggested Brooks could be moved on as the most attractive option to free cap space.
Mutually beneficial for both.

Who do we replace him with you ask?
Can’t get a half for the same money you say.

That may be true but in an adjacent conversation we are constantly talking about how Doueihi isn’t a fullback and would be better suited at five eight.

Whose currently playing in the five eight position?

As some mentioned Madden or Flanagan but all in all replace him with a halfback and buy a specialist fullback.

I think Barrett could do wonders with Brooks.

Why can't we do wonders with Brooks?

Cleary could. What you have written seems to concede we have a coaching issue.

There are no bad soldiers, only bad leaders.

He needs someone that can give him that confidence. Believes in his ability.
I’m not even sure Cleary did. Remember from the moment we signed Cleary there was talk of him wanting his Son to play for him. Maybe that challenge spurred Brooks on, who knows.

Cleary got him playing outstandingly well.

We also had forwards who were willing to, or could offload.

Cleary Jnr and Brooks would have made an outstanding combination.

We cannot afford to lose another player of Brooks' calibre.

If the current coach can't get the best from him, that is where the issue starts and ends.

Don’t forget that Brooks was our player of the year last season playing under Madge. Considering he did well I doubt Madge would’ve changed much of his game in the off season. Sometimes it has to go down to the player - maybe the break and the early injury and the whole COVID thing has affected him too.

It’s up to the coach to figure out how to fix it though and he’s trying, hopefully he has a good game against the doggies and he builds some confidence.

Bring in specialist coaching like the other clubs. Moses has Johns, Papenhuyzen has Slater, is Cronk helping Flanagan? Put egos aside and provide the specialist coaching required.

I agree, we could definitely use a halves coach for our guys. Was it Cleary or Madge that tried to bring in Daley? That would’ve been great.

That was Maguire which is great and I applaud him for trying. But we need Daley, one of the Johns etc to assist.

Didn't Daley get knocked back due to conflict of interests with a sponsor or something?

He was but we have new NRL leadership now.

He was knocked out because he is employed by a betting company.
 
@diedpretty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205067) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205059) said:
It appears WT, St George and Warriors will have big money to throw around come November.

Where is that coming from?

Unless we offload some players aren't we down to 300k? That's what I've read, but not to say that number is accurate though
 
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205071) said:
@diedpretty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205067) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205059) said:
It appears WT, St George and Warriors will have big money to throw around come November.

Where is that coming from?

Unless we offload some players aren't we down to 300k? That's what I've read, but not to say that number is accurate though

I’m pretty positive that number is wrong. We won’t have as much as warriors or dragons but we should have a bit of money to spend
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205072) said:
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205071) said:
@diedpretty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205067) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205059) said:
It appears WT, St George and Warriors will have big money to throw around come November.

Where is that coming from?

Unless we offload some players aren't we down to 300k? That's what I've read, but not to say that number is accurate though

I’m pretty positive that number is wrong. We won’t have as much as warriors or dragons but we should have a bit of money to spend

That was what I was thinking, but there have been a couple of stories floating around saying the same thing.....
 
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205071) said:
@diedpretty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205067) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205059) said:
It appears WT, St George and Warriors will have big money to throw around come November.

Where is that coming from?

Unless we offload some players aren't we down to 300k? That's what I've read, but not to say that number is accurate though

What happened to our war-chest? Did jack sparrow run off with it or something
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205032) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205031) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205030) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205001) said:
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204984) said:
Titans have ruled out move for Mbye, which is not surprising.hate to say it but we are stuck with him for the remainder of his contract. There will be no takers even if we pay half.

Didn’t Hollbrook, state this the other day? Or is this a more inside word?

He said they probably won't have enough money to sign Mbye. I say give him to them for free.

Shannon Boyd just retired they surely have the money

They just signed Fifita for a squillion, he is basically soaking up the contracts of 2 or 3 players.
Give them Mbye as a gift, we'd be out of pocket for next year but at least we wouldn't be paying the bludger $900k to do bugger-all in 2022.

Sadly, He's off contract at end of 2022, so we have to pay him for 2 more seasons after this one.
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205025) said:
@Fletch said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205023) said:
@tbones10 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205017) said:
@CocaCola said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205012) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204991) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204989) said:
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204984) said:
Titans have ruled out move for Mbye, which is not surprising.hate to say it but we are stuck with him for the remainder of his contract. There will be no takers even if we pay half.

Try him in the halves imo. He’s fast with a good passing game. With the right coaching I think he could be a quality match for brooks.

Playing him at 6 for next season is actually a pretty decent option I reckon. No idea how good his kicking game is though

Lets not roll the dice next season with positional changes.

Do it this year as it can't get anyworse as it is. It's likely we won't have much to play for anyway.

Everyone has being saying he's a running 6 for years, the only CLOWNS that don't get it are the ones running the show. He'll, I even believe with his leg speed, handling and ability to chime in, he could be a handy 1.

Joey Johns suggests the Dogs recruit Mbye to partner Foran in the halves next year as a running 5/8. Particularly if the Tigers are going to pay half his wages.

Maybe the Tigers should try Brooks and Mbye in the halves, got nothing to lose. If it works out ok then the club can retire Benji and try and offload JRey.

I actually think that’s the only option left for us to try and get some value out of him. I always thought he was a much better half than Reynolds when they were both at the dogs.

It's not hard to be a better half than Reynolds. The problem is we'd still have Reynolds being paid and contributing next to nothing.
 
@Aesopian said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205076) said:
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205071) said:
@diedpretty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205067) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205059) said:
It appears WT, St George and Warriors will have big money to throw around come November.

Where is that coming from?

Unless we offload some players aren't we down to 300k? That's what I've read, but not to say that number is accurate though

What happened to our war-chest? Did jack sparrow run off with it or something

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/tigers/wests-tigers-salary-cap-shock-club-only-has-300k-to-spend-on-2021-roster/news-story/cfcf9bc387f7a7ca00f50220bd8f4dda
 
@weststigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205079) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205032) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205031) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205030) said:
@Needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205001) said:
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204984) said:
Titans have ruled out move for Mbye, which is not surprising.hate to say it but we are stuck with him for the remainder of his contract. There will be no takers even if we pay half.

Didn’t Hollbrook, state this the other day? Or is this a more inside word?

He said they probably won't have enough money to sign Mbye. I say give him to them for free.

Shannon Boyd just retired they surely have the money

They just signed Fifita for a squillion, he is basically soaking up the contracts of 2 or 3 players.
Give them Mbye as a gift, we'd be out of pocket for next year but at least we wouldn't be paying the bludger $900k to do bugger-all in 2022.

Sadly, He's off contract at end of 2022, so we have to pay him for 2 more seasons after this one.

I meant if we can offload him to the Titans for next season we should pick up a big chunk of his salary for next season to help them sign him but then he will be their problem in 2022.
 
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205084) said:
@Aesopian said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205076) said:
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205071) said:
@diedpretty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205067) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205059) said:
It appears WT, St George and Warriors will have big money to throw around come November.

Where is that coming from?

Unless we offload some players aren't we down to 300k? That's what I've read, but not to say that number is accurate though

What happened to our war-chest? Did jack sparrow run off with it or something

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/tigers/wests-tigers-salary-cap-shock-club-only-has-300k-to-spend-on-2021-roster/news-story/cfcf9bc387f7a7ca00f50220bd8f4dda

DT are a bunch of nuffies. If you asked them what 2+2 equals, their answer would be Potato
 
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205084) said:
@Aesopian said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205076) said:
@OzLuke said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205071) said:
@diedpretty said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205067) said:
@Magpie1969 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205059) said:
It appears WT, St George and Warriors will have big money to throw around come November.

Where is that coming from?

Unless we offload some players aren't we down to 300k? That's what I've read, but not to say that number is accurate though

What happened to our war-chest? Did jack sparrow run off with it or something

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/tigers/wests-tigers-salary-cap-shock-club-only-has-300k-to-spend-on-2021-roster/news-story/cfcf9bc387f7a7ca00f50220bd8f4dda

Coming from the Daily Errorgraph .. I wouldn’t believe any of that, it must be a slow news day for the journalists .. !!
 
@Tigerstar said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1205073) said:
Add Widdop , Saab/ Johnston and Welch and I'd be happy

I don’t get the Widdop hype ? He had a few good years like 3 years ago . Last year he was horrendous , and he was doing nothing in super league before Covid . Plus he’s older than Josh Reynolds . I think Madden could be the go . I know guys don’t rate him, but the CC cup games I saw , he looked like an organiser. You stick him on an edge where the goal is to get the backs early ball , and just control the tempo , that could be enough . The issue as has always been , is a lack of explosiveness in the backs to turn half chances into full chances. As well as Luci atm seems to get his arms free at will . Where is Doueihi! He needs to stick right up Lucianos butt. That’s the only area where Thommo is miles ahead of Doueihi .
 
For example Souths score a lot of points just by players over estimating where Lattrell is going to be, creating a lot of space on the inside for Cody walker to weave and jink . It’s killing teams . And when they don’t slide or jam LM , he runs amok on the outside . It’s working a treat . Simply by having an option has opened up space .
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204991) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204989) said:
@TYGA said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1204984) said:
Titans have ruled out move for Mbye, which is not surprising.hate to say it but we are stuck with him for the remainder of his contract. There will be no takers even if we pay half.

Try him in the halves imo. He’s fast with a good passing game. With the right coaching I think he could be a quality match for brooks.

Playing him at 6 for next season is actually a pretty decent option I reckon. No idea how good his kicking game is though

Naaah that’s too late.
We need to try things this year. Give him a go in spine now.
Continue to mix combos with what we have this year.
Next year start and hopefully stick with combinations that worked for us.
This year is done ..... for me anyway.
 

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