Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[pawsandclaws1]

Heard on MMM that Madge would like Dean Young to come on board.

I think he will stay with the Drags. He is a young coach who will continue his apprenticeship and be mentored by Hook. Hook hasn’t got a strong history of staying at Clubs long but has a solid reputation in rebuilding them. I reckon in a few years Dean will get the top job - Drags like to hire from within if they can. Obviously with Mary going they looked outside but I reckon this will only be temporary.

Apparently he has asked for a release from the final year of his contract.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

No thanks to Flanno.

1. Oversaw a systemic drug cheating programme;
2. Got ban extended after being found to be liaising with club while under suspension;
3. Routine cap cheating, coincidentally not the year they won though.

That premiership will be more suspect than any of the Storm premierships that were repealed.

 

[Snake]

Heard on MMM that Madge would like Dean Young to come on board.

I think he will stay with the Drags. He is a young coach who will continue his apprenticeship and be mentored by Hook. Hook hasn’t got a strong history of staying at Clubs long but has a solid reputation in rebuilding them. I reckon in a few years Dean will get the top job - Drags like to hire from within if they can. Obviously with Mary going they looked outside but I reckon this will only be temporary.

Apparently he has asked for a release from the final year of his contract.

I have no idea if Young is a good coach or not .. if he wants a top grade coaches job he is better of getting a job elsewhere . If he stays at the Dragons he will always be the assistant coach and they are rarely appointed to the top gig .. better coming from the outside with past associations!

 

[clontarfkid]

No thanks to Flanno.

1. Oversaw a systemic drug cheating programme;
2. Got ban extended after being found to be liaising with club while under suspension;
3. Routine cap cheating, coincidentally not the year they won though.

That premiership will be more suspect than any of the Storm premierships that were repealed.

They were actually UNDER the cap during the week they won the GF,so were officially compliant according to Greenburg
Regardless,Flanagan only good for one year until he lands the big gig and potentially a destructive influence in many ways.
This wld never work given their history,but Siebold wld make a very good attack coach for somebody...but not Madge!!

 

[jirskyr]

Tedesco set for $1.2 million a year over the next 6 years with the Chooks. That’s a hell of a lot of teeth.
Edit: Fox ‘experts’ think he is being smart with taking ‘less’ to stay with them.

Honestly even for Tedesco I don't think that's a smart deal. I always think that 4 years is the most you should ever sign a player, especially at a million bucks like that. It only takes one injury, one personal issue to unravel the whole deal.

edit: papers are saying it's a 5-year deal.

Just look at the million-dollar players right now:
- DCE - a bit past halfway on his 8-year deal, not worth $1M per season even though he has had some good periods
- Ben Hunt - total flop 5 year deal
- Foran - good but always injured, 3 year deal
- Tommy Turbo - 6 year deal, one of the games prime footballers but that much cap in one area means Manly can't win when he's injured, and Turbo has only played 18 games in the last two seasons. Plus his issue is hamstrings which can be a career-long issue.
- RTS - 8 year deal including an extension, probably worth it for the Warriors so far
- Milf - currently on a 4-year deal, total flop
- Taumalolo - 3 years into a 10-year deal. Not the force he quite was a few years ago but still one of the top forwards going around
- Michael Morgan - 3 years into a 5-year deal, Cowboys not making finals and Morgan played 11 games in 2018, 6 games in 2020
- Tedesco - 4 year deal currently and worth it
- Ash Taylor - 3 year deal, total flop
- Nathan Cleary - half-2 years into a 5-year deal, maybe worth it based on 2020
- Mitchell Pearce - 4 year deal at Knights, one of their better players, but not worth a million IMO
- Cam Smith - worth it every year
This list was taken from SMH Feb 2020.

So of those 13 players there are probably 4 legitimately earning their million year on year - Tedesco, Cam Smith, Taumalolo, RTS. Turbo probably worth a mill if he's fit. You can say with fair expectation of consensus that 4 players are total flops - Milf, Foran, Hunt, Ash Taylor. The rest probably aren't worth $1M every year consistently.

Bearing in mind also we don't know what the long-term fallout might be from COVID.

There are just so few players that can hold their form for that long, and although Tedesco is in peak form, he'll be 28 next year and the next deal will pay him up until end 2026, in that last year he'll be 34.

 

[Tiger5150]

Tedesco set for $1.2 million a year over the next 6 years with the Chooks. That’s a hell of a lot of teeth.
Edit: Fox ‘experts’ think he is being smart with taking ‘less’ to stay with them.

Honestly even for Tedesco I don't think that's a smart deal. I always think that 4 years is the most you should ever sign a player, especially at a million bucks like that. It only takes one injury, one personal issue to unravel the whole deal.

edit: papers are saying it's a 5-year deal.

Just look at the million-dollar players right now:
- DCE - a bit past halfway on his 8-year deal, not worth $1M per season even though he has had some good periods
- Ben Hunt - total flop 5 year deal
- Foran - good but always injured, 3 year deal
- Tommy Turbo - 6 year deal, one of the games prime footballers but that much cap in one area means Manly can't win when he's injured, and Turbo has only played 18 games in the last two seasons. Plus his issue is hamstrings which can be a career-long issue.
- RTS - 8 year deal including an extension, probably worth it for the Warriors so far
- Milf - currently on a 4-year deal, total flop
- Taumalolo - 3 years into a 10-year deal. Not the force he quite was a few years ago but still one of the top forwards going around
- Michael Morgan - 3 years into a 5-year deal, Cowboys not making finals and Morgan played 11 games in 2018, 6 games in 2020
- Tedesco - 4 year deal currently and worth it
- Ash Taylor - 3 year deal, total flop
- Nathan Cleary - half-2 years into a 5-year deal, maybe worth it based on 2020
- Mitchell Pearce - 4 year deal at Knights, one of their better players, but not worth a million IMO
- Cam Smith - worth it every year
This list was taken from SMH Feb 2020.

So of those 13 players there are probably 4 legitimately earning their million year on year - Tedesco, Cam Smith, Taumalolo, RTS. Turbo probably worth a mill if he's fit. You can say with fair expectation of consensus that 4 players are total flops - Milf, Foran, Hunt, Ash Taylor. The rest probably aren't worth $1M every year consistently.

Bearing in mind also we don't know what the long-term fallout might be from COVID.

There are just so few players that can hold their form for that long, and although Tedesco is in peak form, he'll be 28 next year and the next deal will pay him up until end 2026, in that last year he'll be 34.

In a team wracked with injury, I think DCE has been one of the best halves in the comp this year. He is a great halfback. Does everything we scream for a half to do. IMO Cleary, Keary & DCE are the standouts.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Tedesco set for $1.2 million a year over the next 6 years with the Chooks. That’s a hell of a lot of teeth.
Edit: Fox ‘experts’ think he is being smart with taking ‘less’ to stay with them.

Honestly even for Tedesco I don't think that's a smart deal. I always think that 4 years is the most you should ever sign a player, especially at a million bucks like that. It only takes one injury, one personal issue to unravel the whole deal.

edit: papers are saying it's a 5-year deal.

Just look at the million-dollar players right now:
- DCE - a bit past halfway on his 8-year deal, not worth $1M per season even though he has had some good periods
- Ben Hunt - total flop 5 year deal
- Foran - good but always injured, 3 year deal
- Tommy Turbo - 6 year deal, one of the games prime footballers but that much cap in one area means Manly can't win when he's injured, and Turbo has only played 18 games in the last two seasons. Plus his issue is hamstrings which can be a career-long issue.
- RTS - 8 year deal including an extension, probably worth it for the Warriors so far
- Milf - currently on a 4-year deal, total flop
- Taumalolo - 3 years into a 10-year deal. Not the force he quite was a few years ago but still one of the top forwards going around
- Michael Morgan - 3 years into a 5-year deal, Cowboys not making finals and Morgan played 11 games in 2018, 6 games in 2020
- Tedesco - 4 year deal currently and worth it
- Ash Taylor - 3 year deal, total flop
- Nathan Cleary - half-2 years into a 5-year deal, maybe worth it based on 2020
- Mitchell Pearce - 4 year deal at Knights, one of their better players, but not worth a million IMO
- Cam Smith - worth it every year
This list was taken from SMH Feb 2020.

So of those 13 players there are probably 4 legitimately earning their million year on year - Tedesco, Cam Smith, Taumalolo, RTS. Turbo probably worth a mill if he's fit. You can say with fair expectation of consensus that 4 players are total flops - Milf, Foran, Hunt, Ash Taylor. The rest probably aren't worth $1M every year consistently.

Bearing in mind also we don't know what the long-term fallout might be from COVID.

There are just so few players that can hold their form for that long, and although Tedesco is in peak form, he'll be 28 next year and the next deal will pay him up until end 2026, in that last year he'll be 34.

Only four of those players are worth it this year (Cleary, JT, Teddy and Smith,) three based on long term form (JT, Teddy and Smith.)

Three of those four clubs have great, well-rounded squads to extract the absolute best out of those players. A million dollar player is the icing on the cake.

 

[Sart0ri]

In a team wracked with injury, I think DCE has been one of the best halves in the comp this year. He is a great halfback. Does everything we scream for a half to do. IMO Cleary, Keary & DCE are the standouts.

You must be watching a different DCE to me, without the huge attacking threat that Turbo provides he has looked very ineffective.

 

[izotope]

Tedesco set for $1.2 million a year over the next 6 years with the Chooks. That’s a hell of a lot of teeth.
Edit: Fox ‘experts’ think he is being smart with taking ‘less’ to stay with them.

Honestly even for Tedesco I don't think that's a smart deal. I always think that 4 years is the most you should ever sign a player, especially at a million bucks like that. It only takes one injury, one personal issue to unravel the whole deal.

edit: papers are saying it's a 5-year deal.

Just look at the million-dollar players right now:
- DCE - a bit past halfway on his 8-year deal, not worth $1M per season even though he has had some good periods
- Ben Hunt - total flop 5 year deal
- Foran - good but always injured, 3 year deal
- Tommy Turbo - 6 year deal, one of the games prime footballers but that much cap in one area means Manly can't win when he's injured, and Turbo has only played 18 games in the last two seasons. Plus his issue is hamstrings which can be a career-long issue.
- RTS - 8 year deal including an extension, probably worth it for the Warriors so far
- Milf - currently on a 4-year deal, total flop
- Taumalolo - 3 years into a 10-year deal. Not the force he quite was a few years ago but still one of the top forwards going around
- Michael Morgan - 3 years into a 5-year deal, Cowboys not making finals and Morgan played 11 games in 2018, 6 games in 2020
- Tedesco - 4 year deal currently and worth it
- Ash Taylor - 3 year deal, total flop
- Nathan Cleary - half-2 years into a 5-year deal, maybe worth it based on 2020
- Mitchell Pearce - 4 year deal at Knights, one of their better players, but not worth a million IMO
- Cam Smith - worth it every year
This list was taken from SMH Feb 2020.

So of those 13 players there are probably 4 legitimately earning their million year on year - Tedesco, Cam Smith, Taumalolo, RTS. Turbo probably worth a mill if he's fit. You can say with fair expectation of consensus that 4 players are total flops - Milf, Foran, Hunt, Ash Taylor. The rest probably aren't worth $1M every year consistently.

Bearing in mind also we don't know what the long-term fallout might be from COVID.

There are just so few players that can hold their form for that long, and although Tedesco is in peak form, he'll be 28 next year and the next deal will pay him up until end 2026, in that last year he'll be 34.

Good post i agree.
Just for completeness missing Ponga, which you would have to put in the pass category

 

[earl]

There are just so few players that can hold their form for that long, and although Tedesco is in peak form, he’ll be 28 next year and the next deal will pay him up until end 2026, in that last year he’ll be 34.

He is a special player but even this is risky isn't it. Can't stand the guy personally though.

 

[2041]

There are just so few players that can hold their form for that long, and although Tedesco is in peak form, he’ll be 28 next year and the next deal will pay him up until end 2026, in that last year he’ll be 34.

If Tedesco loses form he will miraculously decide to retire two years early, walking away from his contract, simply because it's the right thing to do. Countless journalists will line up to tell the rest of us that this shows how well run the Roosters are.

 

[HowDugWT]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/09/14/the-roster-squeeze-behind-wests-tigers-call-on-benji/

This makes me scared

 

[JC99]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/09/14/the-roster-squeeze-behind-wests-tigers-call-on-benji/

This makes me scared

What’s scary about it? Sounds like smart management to me. It’s interesting that Benji isn’t eligible for the veteran allowance, lots of people just assumed he was. Using that money on Nofa is smart.

 

[HowDugWT]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/09/14/the-roster-squeeze-behind-wests-tigers-call-on-benji/

This makes me scared

What’s scary about it? Sounds like smart management to me. It’s interesting that Benji isn’t eligible for the veteran allowance, lots of people just assumed he was. Using that money on Nofa is smart.

I think our priority should be keeping Nofa. He is a junior and he is a gun. If we lose him i'm done we just can't.

 

[JC99]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/09/14/the-roster-squeeze-behind-wests-tigers-call-on-benji/

This makes me scared

What’s scary about it? Sounds like smart management to me. It’s interesting that Benji isn’t eligible for the veteran allowance, lots of people just assumed he was. Using that money on Nofa is smart.

I think our priority should be keeping Nofa. He is a junior and he is a gun. If we lose him i'm done we just can't.

Madge seemed pretty confident Nofa will be staying in his press conference last week. I’d be shocked if he left

 

[AJ1]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/09/14/the-roster-squeeze-behind-wests-tigers-call-on-benji/

This makes me scared

What’s scary about it? Sounds like smart management to me. It’s interesting that Benji isn’t eligible for the veteran allowance, lots of people just assumed he was. Using that money on Nofa is smart.

It also makes it interesting for Brooks. Brooks resigned for $300k cap space as opposed to $500k makes him attractive for another year for me

 

[tony soprano]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/09/14/the-roster-squeeze-behind-wests-tigers-call-on-benji/

This makes me scared

What’s scary about it? Sounds like smart management to me. It’s interesting that Benji isn’t eligible for the veteran allowance, lots of people just assumed he was. Using that money on Nofa is smart.

It also makes it interesting for Brooks. Brooks resigned for $300k cap space as opposed to $500k makes him attractive for another year for me

Who da thought not making finals for 8 years would have some benefits aye

 

[JC99]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/09/14/the-roster-squeeze-behind-wests-tigers-call-on-benji/

This makes me scared

What’s scary about it? Sounds like smart management to me. It’s interesting that Benji isn’t eligible for the veteran allowance, lots of people just assumed he was. Using that money on Nofa is smart.

It also makes it interesting for Brooks. Brooks resigned for $300k cap space as opposed to $500k makes him attractive for another year for me

Funny that him and Nofa get a veterans allowance when they’re both young still. Helps us out at least

 

[rihannafan1]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/09/14/the-roster-squeeze-behind-wests-tigers-call-on-benji/

This makes me scared

What’s scary about it? Sounds like smart management to me. It’s interesting that Benji isn’t eligible for the veteran allowance, lots of people just assumed he was. Using that money on Nofa is smart.

I think our priority should be keeping Nofa. He is a junior and he is a gun. If we lose him i'm done we just can't.

Madge seemed pretty confident Nofa will be staying in his press conference last week. I’d be shocked if he left

You'd be shocked if he left. But a terrible season by the team next year might convince him as while he is passionate about the team he also seems very keen to win (what a surprise!).

 

[PJ_]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/09/14/the-roster-squeeze-behind-wests-tigers-call-on-benji/

This makes me scared

Why does nrl.com need a senior reporter?