OFFICIAL Simon Dwyer [Discussion]

I think Dwyer shows a lot of promise but for mine as soon as Fulton is match fit, Dwyer is no longer in the starting line up. Fulton is too good a defender to not have on the park for the majority of the game and Dwyer will not make the starting side in front of either Ellis or Rhino.

Dwyer off the bench may even be better for him. I stil think when BMM is fit, Dwyer may even struggle for a spot on the bench. BMM is a gun and will take 1 spot on the bench. With Payten, Woods, Fifita all fit Dwyer is no certainty to be in our top 17.
 
@sunshine coast tiger said:
I think Dwyer shows a lot of promise but for mine as soon as Fulton is match fit, Dwyer is no longer in the starting line up. Fulton is too good a defender to not have on the park for the majority of the game and Dwyer will not make the starting side in front of either Ellis or Rhino.

Dwyer off the bench may even be better for him. I stil think when BMM is fit, Dwyer may even struggle for a spot on the bench. BMM is a gun and will take 1 spot on the bench. With Payten, Woods, Fifita all fit Dwyer is no certainty to be in our top 17.

Fulton should start simply on the basis of being an 80 minute player.

As should Ellis, who only seems to come off if he is hurt.

Dwyer off the bench is where it's at. Also gives him a licence to flog his guts out, as he knows he'll get rested.
 
I thought Dwyer went OK in a well beaten side I believe we can come home with a wet sail as the troops we get back start to get match fit , disappointing we don,t have more consistency in our defensive commitment such as the storm dragons or Brisbane have no secret why they are at the top of the table .
 
@happy tiger said:
I'll repeat what I said a few weeks ago he is NOT an 80 minute player in forwards

hes still young.He needs a couple of nrl seasons under his belt and then hell be an 80 minute player.But yes at the moment,once fultons matchfit id start him and have dwyer on the bench.
 
i thought he went quite well. he hammered hannant a few times and was making good contact for me. maybe on tv it looked different. he and ellis def. hit the hardest out of our forwards, at least at the ground it seems to me.

and did he not save a try when he tackled yoh yeh? that was dwyer wasn't it? he was under the posts otherwise
 
I noticed it too. He has real problems with defense. Even when players were running at him, I noticed Galloway and co making the tackles and Dwyer stays out of it.
 
By my count he made 12 tackles in the first half and 17 in the second. I was at the game and I have to say I didn't notice him do that many tackles, I watched the game again on tele and came up with that stat although some were tackle assists. In attack Lui used him as a decoy runner most of the time and I guess that was the game plan which if it is should be reviewed as IMO he should be used a lot more, make him work harder, he is big enough to hold a bull out to p–s. I can see why some have suggested he would be a better bench player coming on for 'shock' value perhaps. If he continues to start the game there are opportunities for him to get involved more if he develops the drive.
 
In todays League Central in Telegraph it says Panthers are chasing them instead of re-signing Trent waterhouse. Dwyer is signed for 2012 isnt he? I doubt we would release him for Adam Blair?

I hope we hang on to Woods, his the best young front rower I have seen come in first grade in tigers colours.
 
I am sure Dwyer is contracted for next year & i am sure the tigers will sign Woods as well after all the work they have put into him.
 
it would be a massive blow for the tigers to lose both Fifta and Woods
esp since our forward pack is weak enough even if we do get blair
 
@Spartan117 said:
Everything changes if Coach Sheens Leaves…

Get ready to see the club crumble.

Heres some news… Tim Sheens is NOT the Messiah!
Just wrote this in another post and will repeat it here...

Dragons still going ok after Bennett ditched them and we'll go ok if Sheens goes because (when they're all on deck) we have a good roster.
Like everyone else I 'd like us to get the best coach available if he does go- but then look at the Broncos!
They're sitting at the top with a head coach with zero first grade experience.
 
The Dragons are a more affluent and mature club than the Tigers. At present we are moving in a very positive direction on both fronts..

We need Sheens at the mo more than the Drags needed Bennett.
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I agree Sheens is not the Messiah,
 
@Spartan117 said:
Everything changes if Coach Sheens Leaves…

Get ready to see the club crumble.

:crazy :laughing: a tade dramatic don't you think…

relax 117...enjoy the theatre of it all...
 
I am hoping sheensy signs our four year offer he is like a rock we have played very entertaining football & built a promising roster over the last through years under him ,It still disappoints me when i think of the roster we had in 1991 92 & 93 Roachy brooksy Sironan Pearce elias jack to mention a few & when Alan Jones came in & took over sent us plummeting to the bottom what a waste of talent he had at his disposal .
 
@sid said:
I am hoping sheensy signs our four year offer he is like a rock we have played very entertaining football & built a promising roster over the last through years under him ,It still disappoints me when i think of the roster we had in 1991 92 & 93 Roachy brooksy Sironan Pearce elias jack to mention a few & when Alan Jones came in & took over sent us plummeting to the bottom what a waste of talent he had at his disposal .

The tigers slid down after Jones took over because our playing roster was on a rapid decline,Wok Ryan said when he left their was no juice left in the lemon. The difference now is that our playing roster has yet to peak and really blind freddy could coach them, we dont need to get in a dutch auction with a coach who is replaceable like everyone else at the club, he not the messiah
 
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