Since the Canberra game we've won 4 from 6

GNR4LIFE

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Just putting that out there.

I'd say that's a pretty damn good effort, and a sign that the team is improving.

Who would of thought we'd have won out of our next 6 games after thrashing?
 
Been a good hit back, which has shown some character.

Still it has been

Souths x 2
Knights at home
Broncos without Origin player.

We have some talent on our roster and as Taylor said where we are sitting on the ladder Is NOT GOOD ENOUGH. The coach sid this loud and clear.

A scalp would be nice. Storm or Dogs, a win against either of them and ill start getting excited.
 
We've been good. Honestly if anything I'm frustrated because I think our squad is pretty good and we've lost games due to poor game plans.
 
We've had a very kind draw. Had we beaten teams we are better than .e.g titans, knights and roosters then we would be knocking on the door step of the top four. To me that is the most frustrating thing to cop. Play like champions one week, but honestly can anyone know what tigers team will turn up next game. Everytime we get our hopes up after a great win , we come crashing back down the following week.
 
I said it a while back and I'm sticking by it. *All it takes* is three consecutive wins to gain considerable momentum and solidify your ladder position. Last week was huge, it would have been three straight. That's why it hurt so much.
 
Still disappointing seeing as we should have wins against Melb and again against Newc but what can ya do

Team is improving not much more can be done. Big test against Melbourne down there in a couple weeks
 
@clifferdSH said:
Still disappointing seeing as we should have wins against Melb and again against Newc but what can ya do

Team is improving not much more can be done. Big test against Melbourne down there in a couple weeks

The way the game works, had we won those 2, we might not have the proceeding games and still be in the same position. Losing games tends to make you a bit more desperate, where if you're winning maybe you're a bit more relaxed. It all evens out in the end and you end up where you deserve to be on the ladder.
 
@stevetiger said:
We've been good. Honestly if anything I'm frustrated because I think our squad is pretty good and we've lost games due to poor game plans.

We lost games because we dropped to much football and missed too many tackles More often than not got dominated by the other teams across the Park…

We have won games when we held/controlled the football missed fewer tackles and either held our own or dominated the opposition across the park...

The 'Game Plans' across the NRL do not differ that much...I have never seen a game on paper win or lose...
 
The problems for the team can be found on the edges defensively, last week it was the right this week it was the left. What does that tell you? Nevermind before Wobbie came on they dominated when they spread the ball but Wobbie's game is to slowly pass the ball to the forwards who get bashed and not give the young blokes the quick ball they deserve. The team's strength is out wide with quick hands.
 
@Geo. said:
@stevetiger said:
We've been good. Honestly if anything I'm frustrated because I think our squad is pretty good and we've lost games due to poor game plans.

We lost games because we dropped to much football and missed too many tackles More often than not got dominated by the other teams across the Park…

We have won games when we held/controlled the football missed fewer tackles and either held our own or dominated the opposition across the park...

The 'Game Plans' across the NRL do not differ that much...I have never seen a game on paper win or lose...

I disagree. I think we've gone out there and tried to grind out wins rather than try and use some skill and hard running to score tries. The good teams have some attacking structures.

It was noticeable last night when Brooks gave an inside ball to Tedesco and I think it was Phil Gould who said "where has that been". We just haven't been coming up with enough attacking plays. ET has added to our game as well but it's a huge area that we need to focus on.
 
Plans only carry you as far as execution. The best of plans won't win you a game if you can't deliver that plan on the field. We have a young squad improving in both execution and confidence. They are beginning to deliver the plans as coached.
 
Defence is still a massive issue. I think the score last night was more a reflection of Souths poor execution rather than great tigers defence. You have to be happy with a win, but you need to be realistic of where this team is at. Tigers fans are the bipolar supporters of the NRL,when we win they start talking finals when we lose it's the spoon.
 
Good win,We now have long break. I don't think we play again until the 26 of June.
15 days away (which is well into the ski season) until we play Melbourne in Melbourne.
*In the meantime , the Storm have two games before they play us. They play the Roosters this weekend and Saints the following weekend.
Our boys can sit back and watch the Storm play for a couple of weeks and study their grubby tactics.
Not much footy for the Tigers over the next two months.
After the Storm we have Penrith at home (ANZ) then the Bulldogs away (ANZ) then another Bye ..which takes us all the way up till Round 20.
Dragons (round 20 ) 24th of July
 
@stevetiger said:
@Geo. said:
@stevetiger said:
We've been good. Honestly if anything I'm frustrated because I think our squad is pretty good and we've lost games due to poor game plans.

We lost games because we dropped to much football and missed too many tackles More often than not got dominated by the other teams across the Park…

We have won games when we held/controlled the football missed fewer tackles and either held our own or dominated the opposition across the park...

The 'Game Plans' across the NRL do not differ that much...I have never seen a game on paper win or lose...

I disagree. I think we've gone out there and tried to grind out wins rather than try and use some skill and hard running to score tries. The good teams have some attacking structures.

It was noticeable last night when Brooks gave an inside ball to Tedesco and I think it was Phil Gould who said "where has that been". We just haven't been coming up with enough attacking plays. ET has added to our game as well but it's a huge area that we need to focus on.

I think your having a lend now steve…good teams have the same second man block plays the same hit the lead runner plays the same outside/inside through the ruck plays and yes even the same 5 hit up and a bomb plays..good teams execute those plays more often than not..

What Great teams do...is shut down what the good teams do....
 
@NT Tiger said:
Plans only carry you as far as execution. The best of plans won't win you a game if you can't deliver that plan on the field. We have a young squad improving in both execution and confidence.

I agree with this.

@NT Tiger said:
They are beginning to deliver the plans as coached.

I agree as well however Taylor is changing his approach. It's good that he is doing this as well. If it doesn't continue though he needs to go. I reckon top 8 or he goes. Put the pressure on him. If we make the top 8 then he should stay. If we play good footy next season he can stay longer. Results matter.
 
@Geo. said:
I think your having a lend now steve…good teams have the same second man block plays the same hit the lead runner plays the same outside/inside through the ruck plays and yes even the same 5 hit up and a bomb plays..good teams execute those plays more often than not..

What Great teams do...is shut down what the good teams do....

I'm definitely not having a lend. I'm pretty stoked with that win and I'm pretty happy that we are improving. I still feel that the coach is a massive risk. I actually don't mind him now but my expectation is that we play positive footy and try to win games. I don't think we have done that enough since Taylor has been coach.

We have improved though out of sight recently. I'm not sure if this is because O'Neill is smashing JT but I don't think so. I do think that ET has made a huge difference and a lot of credit goes to JT and the coaching staff for using him correctly.
 
I agree with Geo and NT and a few others.

However I think JT is unfairly criticised to a large degree. Has he been coming up with no game plans or shocking game plans as some seem to think?
Maybe he has been coming up with, simplified game plans to suit the talent he has. As the talent gets more experienced the game plans can become more complicated or more intricate if you like. So as the younger guys improve he can unleash them a little. Earn the right as more knowledgeable people than me have said.

Look, we said when JT took over and as younger guys were introduced that we would get "Rocks and Diamonds" - people seemed to accept that in the off season but once this inconsistency started to happen for real - a lot of people on here don't like it. So it is the coaches fault. I don't buy that - it is the players not carrying out the game plans.

Now before you jump and down, I don't care what the game plan is, simple or complicated, but it can't be carried out if you are dropping the ball, giving away cheap penalties, arm grabbing in defence and have a forward pack not putting in the effort and getting owned. I don't know for sure but I wouldn't think any of JT's game plans included any of those traits. Therefore how do we know what the game plan was when we didn't man up and turned in a pathetic display like we did against Canberra or didn't man up like we did against the "Rorters" - they were "Rocks" days and if young guys are to improve (which they are slowly) then we have to put up with it.

We are a work in progress, younger guys are improving - we got better when ET has joined us (a little experience goes a long way) and we will see a huge difference when we get, maybe two more experienced people. We just can't afford them at the moment. That is not the fault of the coach, but he has to make do with what he has until the money becomes available.

We may not make the 8, probably won't. Steve will sack JT, he likes giving him ultimatums - however if people can't see the improvement in the team when they get it together and therefore follow the game plan they are bad judges. The coach should be allowed to follow through with the team he is building, with more experience they could be anything.

Up the Tigers! (I'm hoping for a "Diamond" day against the Storm).
 
@Russell said:
I don't care what the game plan is, simple or complicated, but it can't be carried out if you are dropping the ball, giving away cheap penalties, arm grabbing in defence and have a forward pack not putting in the effort and getting owned. I don't know for sure but I wouldn't think any of JT's game plans included any of those traits.

I agree however when you have no attack it makes your defensive game so much harder.

@Russell said:
We may not make the 8, probably won't. Steve will sack JT, he likes giving him ultimatums - however if people can't see the improvement in the team when they get it together and therefore follow the game plan they are bad judges. The coach should be allowed to follow through with the team he is building, with more experience they could be anything.

I just think that JT needs to be under pressure. He has gotten away with murder since coming here. Seriously he has had some shockers. I want to see our team winning games. We have decent talent in our squad.

I also think it's pretty funny to state that he is following through. He is changing his approach and I that may be due to the pressure on him. The coach should only be allowed to follow through as you are stating if he proves he can get the most out of the team. If not he should go.

We are improving and I'm stoked. I want JT to be successful. I want him there long term. It has to be based though on winning games.

@Russell said:
Up the Tigers! (I'm hoping for a "Diamond" day against the Storm).

I agree 100%. I'd love to see us have a good season this year and make the 8.
 
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