Siro (the sequal)

Dwyer was starting from the bench in his early days and when he got the starting gig- people were calling for his head until he had a breakout game against the souths.

Siro is going much better than Dwyer was at the same stage.

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@tig_prmz said:
Dwyer was starting from the bench in his early days and when he got the starting gig- people were calling for his head until he had a breakout game against the souths.

**Siro is going much better than Dwyer was at the same stage.**

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Lol no he isn't
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@tig_prmz said:
Dwyer was starting from the bench in his early days and when he got the starting gig- people were calling for his head until he had a breakout game against the souths.

**Siro is going much better than Dwyer was at the same stage.**

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Lol no he isn't

Dwyer had only just debuted by round 16 of the year he turned 21.

People on here were at times bagging him for a while after that.

I was a big fan of Dwyer butit is a justified argument that Siron is ahead of Dwyer at this point
 
I disagree, no way Sirro has stood out more than Dwyer did. Off the top of my head i can think of a match sealing try he scored against the dogs, plus the famous hit he put on JWH. Haven't seen any such moments from Sirro.
 
@Black'n'White said:
Dwyer did all that in his first 10 games? news to me…

Whats the relevance of this? Sirro has played almost 30 games, not 10\. Dwyer played 35 all up.
 
How many games has Siro played in the pigs? 30 games would mean he played every game last season, as he has played sweet FA this year… Go back a few rounds and watch Siro vs. G. Burgess... that was last years whatever string half vs. an English international second rower...

think about it.
 
What is the point of comparing these two?? They are like chalk and cheese. Curtis is a five eighth ( unlike Dwyer) thats been trained to be a back rower. He needs time to learn and get used to his new position. We will see more aggression in his game the more he plays this position. He's a skilful player and has a good head on him too. He will be very good for us, just needs some time to adjust. Dwyer was a very good player and a hard hitter. Unfortunately injury struck and we never got to see the best of him.
 
Siro has played 29 games so far: 6 in 2012, 19 in 2013, 4 in 2014\. He debuted at 20 years, 9 months, 6 days of age.

Dwyer played 35 games: 2 in 2009, 18 in 2010, 15 in 2011\. He debuted at 20 years, 5 months, 7 days of age.

What I will say about Siro in comparison to Dwyer is that he has only had 1 consistent stint and that was for a team who ran second-last. Dwyer came to prominence in a team that made the semis 2 years running.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
I disagree, no way Sirro has stood out more than Dwyer did. Off the top of my head i can think of a match sealing try he scored against the dogs, plus the famous hit he put on JWH. Haven't seen any such moments from Sirro.

that's true and maybe the reason for that is potter is a more reserved coach than sheens who liked his players to be more individualistic.

what i can see in siro is his first shot is well timed and he hits hard. he had a terrible game against souths with burgess but he still did extremely well in a few tackles, however, got streamrolled in a couple.

as goose said, compared to dwyer- siro's first few starting gigs have been better.
 
@Tigermama said:
What is the point of comparing these two?? They are like chalk and cheese. Curtis is a five eighth ( unlike Dwyer) thats been trained to be a back rower. He needs time to learn and get used to his new position. We will see more aggression in his game the more he plays this position. He's a skilful player and has a good head on him too. He will be very good for us, just needs some time to adjust. Dwyer was a very good player and a hard hitter. Unfortunately injury struck and we never got to see the best of him.

the reason im comparing is to just mention that even someone as highly rated by us as dwyer was criticised in his first few performances.
 
@tig_prmz said:
@Tigermama said:
What is the point of comparing these two?? They are like chalk and cheese. Curtis is a five eighth ( unlike Dwyer) thats been trained to be a back rower. He needs time to learn and get used to his new position. We will see more aggression in his game the more he plays this position. He's a skilful player and has a good head on him too. He will be very good for us, just needs some time to adjust. Dwyer was a very good player and a hard hitter. Unfortunately injury struck and we never got to see the best of him.

the reason im comparing is to just mention that even someone as highly rated by us as dwyer was criticised in his first few performances.

Yes "tig-prmz" some fans are impatient with the youngsters coming through. Patients everyone , they'll come good,give them time. :wink:
 
@jirskyr said:
Siro has played 29 games so far: 6 in 2012, 19 in 2013, 4 in 2014\. He debuted at 20 years, 9 months, 6 days of age.

Dwyer played 35 games: 2 in 2009, 18 in 2010, 15 in 2011\. He debuted at 20 years, 5 months, 7 days of age.

What I will say about Siro in comparison to Dwyer is that he has only had 1 consistent stint and that was for a team who ran second-last. Dwyer came to prominence in a team that made the semis 2 years running.

You have Curtis' debut age wrong, he is only 20 now. Turns 21 later this month. (Born July '83)
He is currently roughly the age that Dwyer was when he debuted.
 
@Tigermama said:
@tig_prmz said:
@Tigermama said:
What is the point of comparing these two?? They are like chalk and cheese. Curtis is a five eighth ( unlike Dwyer) thats been trained to be a back rower. He needs time to learn and get used to his new position. We will see more aggression in his game the more he plays this position. He's a skilful player and has a good head on him too. He will be very good for us, just needs some time to adjust. Dwyer was a very good player and a hard hitter. Unfortunately injury struck and we never got to see the best of him.

the reason im comparing is to just mention that even someone as highly rated by us as dwyer was criticised in his first few performances.

Yes "tig-prmz" some fans are impatient with the youngsters coming through. Patients everyone , they'll come good,give them time. :wink:

LOL - I think there are a few 'patients' on this forum! But I think the word you wanted is 'patience'.
 
@Goose said:
@jirskyr said:
Siro has played 29 games so far: 6 in 2012, 19 in 2013, 4 in 2014\. He debuted at 20 years, 9 months, 6 days of age.

Dwyer played 35 games: 2 in 2009, 18 in 2010, 15 in 2011\. He debuted at 20 years, 5 months, 7 days of age.

What I will say about Siro in comparison to Dwyer is that he has only had 1 consistent stint and that was for a team who ran second-last. Dwyer came to prominence in a team that made the semis 2 years running.

You have Curtis' debut age wrong, he is only 20 now. Turns 21 later this month. (Born July '83)
He is currently roughly the age that Dwyer was when he debuted.

Sorry; rugby league project has his DOB as 1991, if it is 1993 then it's obviously 2 years older.

Would have made his debut at 18 Years, 9 Months, 26 Days, so yes, almost 2 years younger than Dwyer on debut.
 
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