Soccer Super Thread

@Kaiser said:
@tigerdre said:
McDonald has got to bring his Celtic form to the national squad

I would score goals in the Scottish League HAHA

We need to field Kewel and Cahill up front…Cahill as a point man and Kewel as a loose / wondering forward. A player like Kewel needs to see the ball as much as possible, his movement of the ball is great and it will give the Aussie Midfielders somewhere to go. He's wasted on the left wing...

I agree Kewel would be good as a roaming forward but you putting Cahill as your main striker would be a waste of his talents.Moyes flirted with it at Everton & it failed miserabley.
Cahill supporting from midfield is were he should stay.
Kennedy & Kewell for me up front
 
@tigerdre said:
I agree Kewel would be good as a roaming forward but you putting Cahill as your main striker would be a waste of his talents.Moyes flirted with it at Everton & it failed miserabley.
Cahill supporting from midfield is were he should stay.
Kennedy & Kewell for me up front

Fair enough… and you are right concerning Everton... I just think we have stronger all-rounded midfielders than Cahill..
 
I too think Cahill is most effective in the midfield. It allows his late runs into the box which is an effective option. Bresciano alongisde him would be pretty dangerous. It also allows Kennedy and Kewell to play up front.

I doubt we will see Kewell up front though as Pim will play him on the left with two screening mid-fielders and one bloke up front. It seems to be his favourite or at least preferred, option and with Germany and Ghana in the group, Pim I suspect will attempt to score on the counter.
 
i think we'll make the round of 16, but from there, it'll be bloody tough

group of death for mine is group d ( our group ). there are 3 competitive teams vying for a spot in the next round there
 
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**<big>'Soccer is boring': why high-rise Harry puts his money into league</big>**

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/soccer-is-boring-why-highrise-harry-puts-his-money-into-league-20110903-1jrbx.html#ixzz1WvwHxBPa

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HARRY TRIGUBOFF, one of Australia's richest men and the Wests Tigers' major sponsor, will never funnel any of his billions into football because ''soccer is boring''.
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The Tigers have surged into third among rugby league teams in the annual list of most valuable football clubs in Australia and just missed out on a berth in the overall top 10.
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Triguboff aired his view as supporters of the A-League hailed the recruitments of Socceroo pair Brett Emerton and Harry Kewell as a masterstroke that would ensure the competition gained unseen levels of corporate and media support. Triguboff - who as boss of property group Meriton has poured $1 million this season into the Wests Tigers on top of the money he ploughed into the club since he became a Balmain supporter many years ago - said nothing could entice him to invest in football.
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''I think soccer is boring,'' he told The Sun-Herald. ''I look at it all day and [the players] pretend to get hurt, they get a penalty and maybe - somehow - they score. In league, the players are always on the go. I can see the flow of the game; it's exciting to watch. I am sure soccer is skilful, but it is slow.''
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Triguboff, 78, said he was constantly amazed by the ability of rugby league players to back up from pummellings. He revealed part of the appeal in his being a sponsor stemmed from a deep admiration for the courage players needed to display.
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''They have guts; that's very important,'' he said. ''To stand up to all the people against me in business is courageous; sometimes more courageous than clever. Guts is important in life, and they have it. I like that.''
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While he is an astute businessman, Triguboff said proof his support for the Tigers came from the heart was that he actually doubted it encouraged sales of his apartments.
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''It depends what business you're in,'' he said of the benefits of sponsorship. ''I don't think that in my business, where I mostly sell to Chinese, it helps me a lot. We have to convert them [to league]. But generally, in public, it is very important because people come up to me and talk about the team. If the team is going good, they are happy. If the team is going bad, they ask what I can do about it?
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''It's as though I am running the team. I'm very happy I can talk to [supporters]. They are very happy with my knowledge of rugby league. I have got to know other teams, so I can talk to them on their level. I like it.''
**Repucom International, a brand analysis specialist, estimated that through their sponsorships of the Wests Tigers, Meriton and motor vehicle manufacturer Hyundai had enjoyed at the halfway point of the season $2.15 million worth of exposure via match footage, television news reports, coverage in metropolitan newspapers and ''peripheral'' avenues, such as online media. It was the most by an NRL or AFL club in an apples-for-apples comparison, and the figure was expected to increase dramatically as a result of the Tigers' charge into the finals.**
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''This is a glowing endorsement of our brand,'' said Brett Clarke, the club's general manager of sales and marketing. ''There's no doubt the best model for sponsorship is retention and not acquisition.''
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The Tigers have invested a lot of time in designing this year's jumper so the sponsors would be prominently displayed. Last-minute adjustments to ensure the sponsor's happiness meant a delay in stocking this year's design.
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''We designed ours with the sponsors at the forefront of our thinking. **We positioned Meriton higher on the chest so it won't be lost in the fold-over,** Hyundai received a black panel to ensure their brand wasn't lost in a mish-mash of colours. We weren't happy with the first batch of jumpers, and while the redesign meant delays in getting it into shops, this year's jumper has been our fastest-ever seller,'' Clarke said.
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Tigers players have been told not to fold their arms for photo shoots to ensure their sponsors get invaluable exposure.
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Wests Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys said any company that sponsored a sporting team made their objectives and expectations clear from the outset.
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''Clubs are under a scrutiny,'' he said. ''And that's good for everyone. It means we're under a clear understanding of what we are trying to achieve for one another and that leads to good business practice.''
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Triguboff, who joked the more the Tigers won the more he shelled out, insisted his expectation had not changed since he ''signed on'' again at the end of last year. ''Win,'' he said. ''I expect them to win.''
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/soccer-is-boring-why-highrise-harry-puts-his-money-into-league-20110903-1jrbx.html#ixzz1WvwaqHip

I often see this ''fold over'' during games obscuring logos, some clubs spoonsors cop it really bad…im surprised it hasne been adressed more than it should, glad we have though.
 
this article and the 'we are better than '05' article reminds me on how far we have come in 5 years. from not being able to use the full salary cap to being the 3rd most valuable club.

though no doubt there have been many people who have played an essential part in helping us achieve this, but i believe there are two who have been the foundation stones it has all been built on. Benji and Sheens. no surprises there.

Benji for being,….. well Benji.

And sheens for a number of things like finding a successful balance between retention, recruitment and development. but most importantly was his courage to play the style of football we play.

some may say that’s easy with players like benji in your arsenal, but it makes me wonder 'if bennett had been the coach, would he have travelled the same path as tim?'.
i had a dragons friend tell me once that bennett had said how he wouldn't want benji in his team due to his high error rate and poor defence. now i dont know if that was true or he was just stirring me, but at the time i could believe it as both those reasons had a fair weight of validity behind them.
still i said he'd be my first pick just because of the excitement and emotion he delivers - even through his poor plays.
I reckon bennett would have gone the conservative defensive route back in '05\. It's easy to be flamboyant when you are coaching a team of international stars but do it with a team of rejects and youngsters was awesomely brave and has obviously been shown to be a masterstroke.

It'll be a very sad day when the two of those incredible men leave this club.
 
That was a really interesting read. Thanks for posting it. And I agree with Harry - soccer is boring!
 
Grateful that Harry doesn't see Wests Tigers as boring :righton:
 
@stryker said:
@PrattenParkMagpie said:
@alien said:
soccer isnt boring when good teams are playing

Yes it is

Gotta love those 0-0 score lines :laughing: absolutely enthralling

They will either be the best games, or the worst.

One of the best games I every watched was a 0-0 draw between Liverpool and someone else who I cannot remember a long while ago, and it was end to end stuff with about three or four crossbar hits, and at least a dozen near misses.
 
@PrattenParkMagpie said:
@alien said:
soccer isnt boring when good teams are playing

Yes it is

Soccer is mega boring, yes you do have a goal or two but in general it = zzzzzzz

Rugby league is forward and back and all players moving almost all the time.

Nothing better on the planet.
 
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The only time soccer is not boring is when you are the one playing. Ditto Aussie Rules.
 
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