Someone make a case for Garner...

ElleryHanley

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Moses drifted across field today and it was the backrower who should have smashed him...but Garner came weakly with an arm grab.

Garner slow off the line for another try.

Hit ups? Garner went for 55 m...least of any Tiger's forward except Twal, who basically matched him in 30 mins.

**Has anyone 'ever' seen Garner do a dirty hit up? A 'give me the ball, let me work here" hit up?**

Yet he plays 80 mins a week.

Some nice cover late, but your standard backrower could have done that. Garner is good for 3-4 bad plays a week and, again, has anyone ever seen him do a hard hit up when we are on the back foot? At the very most, he is a bench player. Really, he is a state cup player who covers for you a few games a year.

Fatally...he does not cover for his half also. Whoever he is paired with gets isolated way too often on the line.

Can anyone make a case for him? I feel like 3-4 players are holding us back right now. We are close to a good team, but carrying some liabilities. He is one of them.
 
He’s just keeping the jumper warm for Blore . There’s a reason he wanted out in the off-season. I have a funny feeling, that our right side issues in defence will clear up when Blore gets out there . Until then , we just have to deal .
 
@elleryhanley said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329061) said:
Moses drifted across field today and it was the backrower who should have smashed him...but Garner came weakly with an arm grab.

Garner slow off the line for another try.

Hit ups? Garner went for 55 m...least of any Tiger's forward except Twal, who basically matched him in 30 mins.

**Has anyone 'ever' seen Garner do a dirty hit up? A 'give me the ball, let me work here" hit up?**

Yet he plays 80 mins a week.

Some nice cover late, but your standard backrower could have done that. Garner is good for 3-4 bad plays a week and, again, has anyone ever seen him do a hard hit up when we are on the back foot? At the very most, he is a bench player. Really, he is a state cup player who covers for you a few games a year.

Fatally...he does not cover for his half also. Whoever he is paired with gets isolated way too often on the line.

Can anyone make a case for him? I feel like 3-4 players are holding us back right now. We are close to a good team, but carrying some liabilities. He is one of them.

I got nothing good about Garner. Garner is a one hit wonder. He is a depth player at best.
 
I feel like agreeing with you, but his defence has been great - aside from the incidents you’ve mentioned. He is definitely not gonna win a big game on his own and we have nobody better...

So, what do you do?
 
@elleryhanley said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329061) said:
Moses drifted across field today and it was the backrower who should have smashed him...but Garner came weakly with an arm grab.

Garner slow off the line for another try.

Hit ups? Garner went for 55 m...least of any Tiger's forward except Twal, who basically matched him in 30 mins.

**Has anyone 'ever' seen Garner do a dirty hit up? A 'give me the ball, let me work here" hit up?**

Yet he plays 80 mins a week.

Some nice cover late, but your standard backrower could have done that. Garner is good for 3-4 bad plays a week and, again, has anyone ever seen him do a hard hit up when we are on the back foot? At the very most, he is a bench player. Really, he is a state cup player who covers for you a few games a year.

Fatally...he does not cover for his half also. Whoever he is paired with gets isolated way too often on the line.

Can anyone make a case for him? I feel like 3-4 players are holding us back right now. We are close to a good team, but carrying some liabilities. He is one of them.

That first try Moses ran across field and behind at least two of his own players. Should have been a penalty to Wests
 
@cultured_bogan said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329081) said:
He's a shark.

Throw the ball to him 10-15m out and he can find the line.

Been a long time since he did that also.

I will agree he has had the odd moment...but you have to do a hell of a lot more to be an automatically picked NRL backrower.

The 'only' hit up he seems to do is run off Brooks. He 'never' gets in there and works.
 
@mike said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329086) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329061) said:
Moses drifted across field today and it was the backrower who should have smashed him...but Garner came weakly with an arm grab.

Garner slow off the line for another try.

Hit ups? Garner went for 55 m...least of any Tiger's forward except Twal, who basically matched him in 30 mins.

**Has anyone 'ever' seen Garner do a dirty hit up? A 'give me the ball, let me work here" hit up?**

Yet he plays 80 mins a week.

Some nice cover late, but your standard backrower could have done that. Garner is good for 3-4 bad plays a week and, again, has anyone ever seen him do a hard hit up when we are on the back foot? At the very most, he is a bench player. Really, he is a state cup player who covers for you a few games a year.

Fatally...he does not cover for his half also. Whoever he is paired with gets isolated way too often on the line.

Can anyone make a case for him? I feel like 3-4 players are holding us back right now. We are close to a good team, but carrying some liabilities. He is one of them.

That first try Moses ran across field and behind at least two of his own players. Should have been a penalty to Wests

Possibly...but a tough backrower still would have smashed Moses there. He was a very easy shot. Garner put in a really weak arm grab.
 
@snake said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329099) said:
Another pretender that thinks he is a top level performer ...injury cover at best!

The hard to fathom thing is Madge dropped him a year or so back...for all these reasons.

Yet, with not a single thing changed or improved, Madge now picks him every single week AND plays him 80 mins...
 
@elleryhanley said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329121) said:
@snake said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329099) said:
Another pretender that thinks he is a top level performer ...injury cover at best!

The hard to fathom thing is Madge dropped him a year or so back...for all these reasons.

Yet, with not a single thing changed or improved, Madge now picks him every single week AND plays him 80 mins...

We don't have any one to replace him. If you think his defensive efforts are bad, his replacement, Chee Kam, once missed 12 tackles in a game. Our only hope is that Blore comes in and immediately does well.
 
We'll have a pretty good State Cup team with MCK and Garner killing it in the backrow.

Having said that, Blore will need to come back through the grades to get some match fitness up.
 
@elleryhanley said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329061) said:
Moses drifted across field today and it was the backrower who should have smashed him...but Garner came weakly with an arm grab.

Garner slow off the line for another try.

Hit ups? Garner went for 55 m...least of any Tiger's forward except Twal, who basically matched him in 30 mins.

**Has anyone 'ever' seen Garner do a dirty hit up? A 'give me the ball, let me work here" hit up?**

Yet he plays 80 mins a week.

Some nice cover late, but your standard backrower could have done that. Garner is good for 3-4 bad plays a week and, again, has anyone ever seen him do a hard hit up when we are on the back foot? At the very most, he is a bench player. Really, he is a state cup player who covers for you a few games a year.

Fatally...he does not cover for his half also. Whoever he is paired with gets isolated way too often on the line.

Can anyone make a case for him? I feel like 3-4 players are holding us back right now. We are close to a good team, but carrying some liabilities. He is one of them.

He ..... is ..... hopeless!
 
@jaydee said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329192) said:
Give Tuilagi a go

He has been really impressive in state cup IMO.

Has NRL size already, also.

Is he on an NRL contract though?
 
@willow said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329166) said:
We'll have a pretty good State Cup team with MCK and Garner killing it in the backrow.

Having said that, Blore will need to come back through the grades to get some match fitness up.

Yes and, as you likely already will know, Blore has played about two full games combined in two years. He was absolutely gassed after ten mins in a game last year. He is going to need a lot of time.

But we are so short of backrowers...
 
@elleryhanley said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329212) said:
@jaydee said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329192) said:
Give Tuilagi a go

He has been really impressive in state cup IMO.

Has NRL size already, also.

Is he on an NRL contract though?

Development contract, eligible after round 10
 
@kazoo-kid said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329151) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329121) said:
@snake said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329099) said:
Another pretender that thinks he is a top level performer ...injury cover at best!

The hard to fathom thing is Madge dropped him a year or so back...for all these reasons.

Yet, with not a single thing changed or improved, Madge now picks him every single week AND plays him 80 mins...

We don't have any one to replace him. If you think his defensive efforts are bad, his replacement, Chee Kam, once missed 12 tackles in a game. Our only hope is that Blore comes in and immediately does well.

Yes, but surely we could at least put a backrower on the bench? LL runs out of gas and Garner is borderline at best.

Agreed re MCK...he is a poor man's Garner!

(A poor man's Garner says it all)
 
Wasnt watching him that closely didn't seem that bad.

Made the try saver on moses, seem to remember almost the whole team letting him drift across field. Least he ran out an had a go
 
@elleryhanley said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329228) said:
@kazoo-kid said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329151) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329121) said:
@snake said in [Someone make a case for Garner\.\.\.](/post/1329099) said:
Another pretender that thinks he is a top level performer ...injury cover at best!

The hard to fathom thing is Madge dropped him a year or so back...for all these reasons.

Yet, with not a single thing changed or improved, Madge now picks him every single week AND plays him 80 mins...

We don't have any one to replace him. If you think his defensive efforts are bad, his replacement, Chee Kam, once missed 12 tackles in a game. Our only hope is that Blore comes in and immediately does well.

Yes, but surely we could at least put a backrower on the bench? LL runs out of gas and Garner is borderline at best.

Agreed re MCK...he is a poor man's Garner!

(A poor man's Garner says it all)

Poor roster management isn't it, When mck is next man up.
 
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