Starting team 2021

@Russell said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283100) said:
Why is Api capable of playing 80 minutes and Liddle is not? Same for any other DH as well.

Grant couldn't do it. It's a tough position.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283106) said:
@Russell said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283100) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283002) said:
@Russell said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1282927) said:
@TigerSkins said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1282396) said:
Remember for Rd1 .. Dhoueihi is suspended. Madge will not play Roberts on the wing .. if Laurie comes across he play at 1.. and Mbye will go to 6. Madge is still not confident of Liddle going the 80 mins, so will have a back up 9 on the bench, and therefore one of the forwards will be dropped, probably Garner.

1. Mbye

2. Nofoaluma

3. Leilua

4. Roberts

5. Momirovski

6. TT

7. Brooks

8. Tamou ©

9. Liddle

10. Musgrove

11. Leilua

12. Blore

13. Ofahengaue

14. Twal

15. Mikaele

16. Utoikamanu

17. Simpkins

Just two questions if you don't mind.

1 AD is suspended, you say Mbye to 6, Laurie is not contracted - who plays 1?

2 Where has Madge said that Liddle cannot play 80 minutes? Why when he has a full off season
is he any different than other DH's that CAN play 80 minutes. He will be just as match fit as any
other DH in the NRL.


When was the last time Liddle played 80mins of NRL? Has he ever? Young bloke coming of a LONG break ( a couple of games last year). He will clearly be short on conditioning. No way anyone would be confident of Liddle playing 80 IMO

Hang on, Hang on hold your horses.

Let's use Api from Pamfers as an example.

Both he and Liddle have started pre season training and both will have a Christmas break and the train up until the trial game in 2021.
If they are both picked in the NRL team for round one.......

Why is Api capable of playing 80 minutes and Liddle is not? Same for any other DH as well.

Doesn't matter what they all did in 2020 - they all start 2021 from scratch.

Don't get the Liddle can't play 80 minutes - not sure about 80 but he has played 73 minutes previously.

I disagree taht it doesnt matter what happened in 2020 or even 2019 for that matter.

Ill ask the same question again. When was the last time Liddle played 80min in NRL? Has he ever.

It takes time to build up that conditioning, like years. If you have either never done it or not for years, you are not doing it in rd 1

Ok - I also get your re-emphasised point - still think you are incorrect.

Don't think he will get the chance - but Liddle could play 80 minutes in any game he is asked in 2021 imo.
 
Kick percentages don’t always show the whole picture. You aren’t able to see how many are from in front or from the sideline.

Look at the true kicking stats here (which factor in difficulty) and it shows the true elite goal kickers. https://www.statsinsider.com.au/nrl/nrl-2020-true-kicker-ratings-top-15-leaderboard

It’s not a perfect system but it’s a good way to analyse which players are actually nailing hard shots to win matches, and who’s just lobbing easy kicks over from in front
 
@Russell said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283209) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283106) said:
@Russell said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283100) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283002) said:
@Russell said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1282927) said:
@TigerSkins said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1282396) said:
Remember for Rd1 .. Dhoueihi is suspended. Madge will not play Roberts on the wing .. if Laurie comes across he play at 1.. and Mbye will go to 6. Madge is still not confident of Liddle going the 80 mins, so will have a back up 9 on the bench, and therefore one of the forwards will be dropped, probably Garner.

1. Mbye

2. Nofoaluma

3. Leilua

4. Roberts

5. Momirovski

6. TT

7. Brooks

8. Tamou ©

9. Liddle

10. Musgrove

11. Leilua

12. Blore

13. Ofahengaue

14. Twal

15. Mikaele

16. Utoikamanu

17. Simpkins

Just two questions if you don't mind.

1 AD is suspended, you say Mbye to 6, Laurie is not contracted - who plays 1?

2 Where has Madge said that Liddle cannot play 80 minutes? Why when he has a full off season
is he any different than other DH's that CAN play 80 minutes. He will be just as match fit as any
other DH in the NRL.


When was the last time Liddle played 80mins of NRL? Has he ever? Young bloke coming of a LONG break ( a couple of games last year). He will clearly be short on conditioning. No way anyone would be confident of Liddle playing 80 IMO

Hang on, Hang on hold your horses.

Let's use Api from Pamfers as an example.

Both he and Liddle have started pre season training and both will have a Christmas break and the train up until the trial game in 2021.
If they are both picked in the NRL team for round one.......

Why is Api capable of playing 80 minutes and Liddle is not? Same for any other DH as well.

Doesn't matter what they all did in 2020 - they all start 2021 from scratch.

Don't get the Liddle can't play 80 minutes - not sure about 80 but he has played 73 minutes previously.

I disagree taht it doesnt matter what happened in 2020 or even 2019 for that matter.

Ill ask the same question again. When was the last time Liddle played 80min in NRL? Has he ever.

It takes time to build up that conditioning, like years. If you have either never done it or not for years, you are not doing it in rd 1

Ok - I also get your re-emphasised point - still think you are incorrect.

Don't think he will get the chance - but Liddle could play 80 minutes in any game he is asked in 2021 imo.

Not many hookers do play 80 minutes these days. If you get 65 out of him that's okay. Give Simpkins the other 15.
 
Hoping the trials give some young guys a run,Liddle is a classy DH. Simkins more a running DH, more suited when opposing forwards are tired.Depending on our attack especially how the halves perform will dictate who gets the job.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283025) said:
@Strongee said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283023) said:
@Newtown said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283018) said:
@Snake said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1282952) said:
Unless the club signs a high percentage kicker the chances of making the finals are indeed below average ,as some have said hit and miss this is the most glaring problem this team has had for years and STILL has not been rectified!

We need a specialist fullback and a specialist goal kicker. Why not sign Gareth Widdop on a short term contract. He would definitely fill these roles without any problem. It's no rocket science.

This just isn’t true though. The storm just won the competition with a guy who kicks at 70%. Our attack was top 4 last year . If we shore up our defence , that’s the strongest way to success . AD was doing a good job in the end and so was mono before he left

Cam Smith kicked well above 80%

Its no good comparing against Smith,he has ice in veins.Just a good solid kicker will do.
 
With all the banter and rumours going round .. here's how our Rd 1 side should look:

1. Laurie
2. Mansour
3. Jet
4. BJ
5. Momers
6. Mbye
7. Brooks
8. Tamua
9. Liddle
10. Musgrove
11. Blore
12. Lucy
13. Ofahengaue

14. Simpkins
15. Twal
16. Mikaele
17. Utoikamanu
 
@TigerSkins said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1284563) said:
With all the banter and rumours going round .. here's how our Rd 1 side should look:

1. Laurie
2. Mansour
3. Jet
4. BJ
5. Momers
6. Mbye
7. Brooks
8. Tamua
9. Liddle
10. Musgrove
11. Blore
12. Lucy
13. Ofahengaue

14. Simpkins
15. Twal
16. Mikaele
17. Utoikamanu

Remove mansour.. he is not a option



I dont see us getting laurie, also why no nofo?
 
@TigerSkins said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1284563) said:
With all the banter and rumours going round .. here's how our Rd 1 side should look:

1. Laurie
2. Mansour
3. Jet
4. BJ
5. Momers
6. Mbye
7. Brooks
8. Tamua
9. Liddle
10. Musgrove
11. Blore
12. Lucy
13. Ofahengaue

14. Simpkins
15. Twal
16. Mikaele
17. Utoikamanu

Noffa would still be here in 2021.
 
@Russell said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283209) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283106) said:
@Russell said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283100) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283002) said:
@Russell said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1282927) said:
@TigerSkins said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1282396) said:
Remember for Rd1 .. Dhoueihi is suspended. Madge will not play Roberts on the wing .. if Laurie comes across he play at 1.. and Mbye will go to 6. Madge is still not confident of Liddle going the 80 mins, so will have a back up 9 on the bench, and therefore one of the forwards will be dropped, probably Garner.

1. Mbye

2. Nofoaluma

3. Leilua

4. Roberts

5. Momirovski

6. TT

7. Brooks

8. Tamou ©

9. Liddle

10. Musgrove

11. Leilua

12. Blore

13. Ofahengaue

14. Twal

15. Mikaele

16. Utoikamanu

17. Simpkins

Just two questions if you don't mind.

1 AD is suspended, you say Mbye to 6, Laurie is not contracted - who plays 1?

2 Where has Madge said that Liddle cannot play 80 minutes? Why when he has a full off season
is he any different than other DH's that CAN play 80 minutes. He will be just as match fit as any
other DH in the NRL.


When was the last time Liddle played 80mins of NRL? Has he ever? Young bloke coming of a LONG break ( a couple of games last year). He will clearly be short on conditioning. No way anyone would be confident of Liddle playing 80 IMO

Hang on, Hang on hold your horses.

Let's use Api from Pamfers as an example.

Both he and Liddle have started pre season training and both will have a Christmas break and the train up until the trial game in 2021.
If they are both picked in the NRL team for round one.......

Why is Api capable of playing 80 minutes and Liddle is not? Same for any other DH as well.

Doesn't matter what they all did in 2020 - they all start 2021 from scratch.

Don't get the Liddle can't play 80 minutes - not sure about 80 but he has played 73 minutes previously.

I disagree taht it doesnt matter what happened in 2020 or even 2019 for that matter.

Ill ask the same question again. When was the last time Liddle played 80min in NRL? Has he ever.

It takes time to build up that conditioning, like years. If you have either never done it or not for years, you are not doing it in rd 1

Ok - I also get your re-emphasised point - still think you are incorrect.

Don't think he will get the chance - but Liddle could play 80 minutes in any game he is asked in 2021 imo.

I honestly think Russ that it will take Jacob about 4/5 rounds to get everything in sync and will be a huge contributor towards the middle and end of the season..I do reckon Madge will be giving him about 50/60 mins a game and he will give maybe Simpkin the rest on a shared basis to start,,,Madge wouldnt want to risk JL to injury or burnout or over exert Simpkin as he bloods him into NRL fg...

I could be completely wrong...just my honest opinion...
 
1. Mbye
2. Kepoa
3. Talau
4. BJ
5. Nofo
6. Douhei
7. Brooks
8. Tamou
9. Liddle
10. Mikaele
11. Blore
12. Luciano
13. Twal
14. Stafano
15. Garner
16. Joe O
17. Simpkins
 
@Blocker1963 said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1284586) said:
1. Mbye
2. Kepoa
3. Talau
4. BJ
5. Nofo
6. Douhei
7. Brooks
8. Tamou
9. Liddle
10. Mikaele
11. Blore
12. Luciano
13. Twal
14. Stafano
15. Garner
16. Joe O
17. Simpkins

Isn't AD suspended round 1
 
@rustycage said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1283105) said:
...... And I also think Madge will give him a starting spot first up as a big thanks for his commitment to going to the Storms for the season. That was a big deal for both him and our club.

Not sure if you'd give someone a first grade spot as a "thank you" but it'd have to be a big fall from being a starter (before injury) at the Premiers to not being in the 13 for the no.11 team.
 
The key for the Tigers is there is going to be a reserve grade comp ,IMO this is the most important aspect of success for the team in 2021 !
 
The trial agaibst scum should give us a proper idea of how douehi plays at 5/8

And then rd 1 ita a big test for madden
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1284640) said:
The trial agaibst scum should give us a proper idea of how douehi plays at 5/8

And then rd 1 ita a big test for madden

Would expect whomever Maguire is planning on filling the 6 in place of Doueihi in round one will be seeing a good bit of time there in the trial.

As for the squad list a little while back, there is no way Nofoaluma isn't on the right wing.
 
Kepaoa may have had his eyes fixed, but this photo does not fill me confidence when he is under a high ball.

![be936695-bd0c-4fea-a680-919d37a2239e-image.png](/assets/uploads/files/1608528482956-be936695-bd0c-4fea-a680-919d37a2239e-image.png)
 
@TigerSkins said in [Starting team 2021](/post/1284563) said:
With all the banter and rumours going round .. here's how our Rd 1 side should look:

1. Laurie
2. Mansour
3. Jet
4. BJ
5. Momers
6. Mbye
7. Brooks
8. Tamua
9. Liddle
10. Musgrove
11. Blore
12. Lucy
13. Ofahengaue

14. Simpkins
15. Twal
16. Mikaele
17. Utoikamanu

We're not signing Mansour.
 

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