Stefano Utoikamanu #241

[Tito Santana]

Stef is gone , you can’t be that bad with origin opertunity , and big money contract offer from us , he has a deal with another club and I would say it’s probably about $ 700 k over 4 years with additional funds added each year , time to drop him as he offered up zero tonight , easy way , is to have pen in hand Monday morning , say sign it now or meet reserve grade coach for rest of season

Let them pay overs. He is soft

 

[Vicious]

Stef is blatantly obviously not trying.

 

[Tom Shines]

Stef is blatantly obviously not trying.

Im thinking he is 100% gone … looks like he is doing a Mitch Moses …

 

[watersider]

Yeah, unfortunately Twal is our best prop at the moment.

Stef is definitely wanting out. He's going out the same way woods went, and it's real ugly and weak. Not too late Stef but it's important you start learning a bit of pride, irrespective of whether you stay or not.

 

[Tiger_Yoshi]

Stef is blatantly obviously not trying.

It’s so obvious isn’t it…if I were Richo and Benji I’d be pulling him into the office on Monday and ask him face to face, are you in or out?.be a man and tell the truth…if he wants out, play him is reserve grade the Rest of the year…

 

[Halbrowne61]

Looked like a netball player tonight when he pirouetted then lobbed the ball in the air to the opposition. Should play at GA next week and wear a skirt.

Don’t think you should offend the netball players, I’ve watched it and they put their bodies on the line, something Stef has trouble doing.

 

[Robbie's Love Child]

Don’t think you should offend the netball players, I’ve watched it and they put their bodies on the line, something Stef has trouble doing.

That is offensive to netball players, he is pathetic and if they pay him anything above $400,000 they should be shot for gross negligence.

 

[boonboon]

He made 42 tackles with 1 miss, he made no errors and gave away no penalties and when he went off after 27 mins we were up 10-4 but he is the problem. People on this forum have no idea.

 

[Westie]

He made 42 tackles with 1 miss, he made no errors and gave away no penalties and when he went off after 27 mins we were up 10-4 but he is the problem. People on this forum have no idea.

How many of those tackles was he the first one in, how many of those tackles did he wrap up the ball and prevent the offload, how many of those tackles did he hurt them with the tackle.
How many dirty runs did he do? How tackle breaks did he do ? How many offloads did he do.
He is not playing like a big dollar forward at least anyway atm.

 

[Halbrowne61]

He made 42 tackles with 1 miss, he made no errors and gave away no penalties and when he went off after 27 mins we were up 10-4 but he is the problem. People on this forum have no idea.

Take your points but you did forgot to mention game total running metres 41 and hit up run metres 21. Hardly what you would expect for your supposed No 1 prop.

 

[boonboon]

Take your points but you did forgot to mention game total running metres 41 and hit up run metres 21. Hardly what you would expect for your supposed No 1 prop.

He couldn’t get a run in the 2nd half because our backs and Seyfarth had dropped the ball before it got to enough to the front rowers -we completed 2 sets while he was on the field in 2nd half. You can’t run when the other team have the ball.

 

[Telltails]

To be fair if you are making 42 tackles there is not going to much petrol left for tackle breaking runs - very few forwards can do both. When we see those players dominating in other teams they have balanced squads where they have a job to do as an impact player. Our pack has been severely weakened with the loss of Bateman Papallii and Klemmer and that cant be placed on the shoulders of one bloke to cover all areas.
Depth is our issue and impacts on the form of all those left to pick up the slack. The expectations are unrealistic and the very reason why those same players look so much better in stronger squads.
Luciano copped the same crap when he was here and as if we couldn't use him now.

 

[GCfan]

He made 42 tackles with 1 miss, he made no errors and gave away no penalties and when he went off after 27 mins we were up 10-4 but he is the problem. People on this forum have no idea.

Stats will support any argument you want to make though.
He didn’t have a go because he made 5 runs for 41mtrs in 56 mins. Both arguments are factual. I don’t think based on his level of attack he’s having a go at all.

 

[Needaname]

A new stat needs to be introduced in the NRL.
Post contact metres conceded.
I believe this is our area we are absolutely poor at, taking 5 metres a set to get a player to the ground.
Stef included.

 

[tigertragic]

He made 42 tackles with 1 miss, he made no errors and gave away no penalties and when he went off after 27 mins we were up 10-4 but he is the problem. People on this forum have no idea.

I think I remember him trying to get a ridiculous pass away that ended up with St George, so at least 1 error

 

[Telltails]

You can't keep targeting individual players if we want to improve as a squad and then lament when they go well in "stronger" teams. You have to build around your best players not expect them to be able to shine in a well beaten squad. No player does.
28% possession in the 2nd half says it all not many runs possible with that

 

[hank37w]

Leave him in Wollongong to make his own way home.

Make him walk home, at least he would make some metres. 🤣

 

[Telltails]

Stats will support any argument you want to make though.
He didn’t have a go because he made 5 runs for 41mtrs in 56 mins. Both arguments are factual. I don’t think based on his level of attack he’s having a go at all.

28% possession in the 2nd half leaves very little opportunity to make run meters.

 

[hank37w]

Maybe, as a "member", I can email Richo and request the offer be withdrawn 🤔

Please do that, after many years of being a member I decided not to renew this season, so the ball is in your court.

Give my regards to Shane Richardson Member #2945843 and tell him ex member #2915660 will be back when he sorts out this mess.

 

[GCfan]

28% possession in the 2nd half leaves very little opportunity to make run meters.

Agree we made it hard but he got outplayed by the others in the pack too. Those stats are appalling for someone demanding marquee money in my opinion