Taylor - BSB Interview...16/6...

[stevetiger]

forget about what happened earlier, right now round 15 of the NRL- who is the best coach to take us further? unless we magically sign bennet, hasler or bellamy- the answer is JT. let him finish what he started. cleary, elliot or toovey aren't gonna add anything that JT hasn't already.

there is no point in starting over… AGAINN..

I agree. For this year only. If Taylor stuffs another year it's not worth the risk he stuffs us next year again.

Stuff that. We owe him nothing.

 

[innsaneink]

This crap still going?

 

[851]

forget about what happened earlier, right now round 15 of the NRL- who is the best coach to take us further? unless we magically sign bennet, hasler or bellamy- the answer is JT. let him finish what he started. cleary, elliot or toovey aren't gonna add anything that JT hasn't already.

there is no point in starting over… AGAINN..

I agree. For this year only. If Taylor stuffs another year it's not worth the risk he stuffs us next year again.

Stuff that. We owe him nothing.

That is my point, if we don't make the 8 this year, we are going in to our most important year in our history, all our good players are off contract, we have a huge chance to consolidate and improve our roster.
If JT misses the 8 this year, I think it is time to say see you later, in my opinion players will sign and re-sign depending on the coach, and I think that we will have a far greater chance if JT was not in charge.

 

[happy_tiger]

forget about what happened earlier, right now round 15 of the NRL- who is the best coach to take us further? unless we magically sign bennet, hasler or bellamy- the answer is JT. let him finish what he started. cleary, elliot or toovey aren't gonna add anything that JT hasn't already.

there is no point in starting over… AGAINN..

I agree. For this year only. If Taylor stuffs another year it's not worth the risk he stuffs us next year again.

Stuff that. We owe him nothing.

That is my point, if we don't make the 8 this year, we are going in to our most important year in our history, all our good players are off contract, we have a huge chance to consolidate and improve our roster.
If JT misses the 8 this year, I think it is time to say see you later, in my opinion players will sign and re-sign depending on the coach, and I think that we will have a far greater chance if JT was not in charge.

Yeah lets get Laurie Daley

He'll be out of work in a month

Unless someone can come up with a guaranteed 100 % better coach than Taylor who actually wants to come here we are wasting our time

Even someone who is marginally better isn't worth it , for all the change of personnel and then change of playing personnel is way too costly

 

[851]

forget about what happened earlier, right now round 15 of the NRL- who is the best coach to take us further? unless we magically sign bennet, hasler or bellamy- the answer is JT. let him finish what he started. cleary, elliot or toovey aren't gonna add anything that JT hasn't already.

there is no point in starting over… AGAINN..

I agree. For this year only. If Taylor stuffs another year it's not worth the risk he stuffs us next year again.

Stuff that. We owe him nothing.

That is my point, if we don't make the 8 this year, we are going in to our most important year in our history, all our good players are off contract, we have a huge chance to consolidate and improve our roster.
If JT misses the 8 this year, I think it is time to say see you later, in my opinion players will sign and re-sign depending on the coach, and I think that we will have a far greater chance if JT was not in charge.

Yeah lets get Laurie Daley

He'll be out of work in a month

Unless someone can come up with a guaranteed 100 % better coach than Taylor who actually wants to come here we are wasting our time

Even someone who is marginally better isn't worth it , for all the change of personnel and then change of playing personnel is way too costly

You say it is too risky to change, that is fine, but I say it is too risky to let him stay if we miss the 8 again this year.

 

[happy_tiger]

I agree. For this year only. If Taylor stuffs another year it's not worth the risk he stuffs us next year again.

Stuff that. We owe him nothing.

That is my point, if we don't make the 8 this year, we are going in to our most important year in our history, all our good players are off contract, we have a huge chance to consolidate and improve our roster.
If JT misses the 8 this year, I think it is time to say see you later, in my opinion players will sign and re-sign depending on the coach, and I think that we will have a far greater chance if JT was not in charge.

Yeah lets get Laurie Daley

He'll be out of work in a month

Unless someone can come up with a guaranteed 100 % better coach than Taylor who actually wants to come here we are wasting our time

Even someone who is marginally better isn't worth it , for all the change of personnel and then change of playing personnel is way too costly

You say it is too risky to change, that is fine, but I say it is too risky to let him stay if we miss the 8 again this year.

Unless its a Bellamy ,Hasler or Bennett its far too risky and still sends out the wrong message to any potential coaches and potential players

With the playing personnel we have we will still probably miss the 8 but with the changes we are implementing unless we self implode you will see a massive improvement

Taylor deserves the right to at least implement his plans for the last year of his contract , same way I would of given Potter a 3rd year to do the same

if you bring in another coach his first season will more than likely be a failure because he wants his own roster , coaching staff , playing style etc , that will take time to implement and it will probably write off 6-8 rounds

Smart call is to keep Taylor for his final year and will prove the club is FINALLY becoming stable again

 

[851]

That is my point, if we don't make the 8 this year, we are going in to our most important year in our history, all our good players are off contract, we have a huge chance to consolidate and improve our roster.
If JT misses the 8 this year, I think it is time to say see you later, in my opinion players will sign and re-sign depending on the coach, and I think that we will have a far greater chance if JT was not in charge.

Yeah lets get Laurie Daley

He'll be out of work in a month

Unless someone can come up with a guaranteed 100 % better coach than Taylor who actually wants to come here we are wasting our time

Even someone who is marginally better isn't worth it , for all the change of personnel and then change of playing personnel is way too costly

You say it is too risky to change, that is fine, but I say it is too risky to let him stay if we miss the 8 again this year.

Unless its a Bellamy ,Hasler or Bennett its far too risky and still sends out the wrong message to any potential coaches and potential players

With the playing personnel we have we will still probably miss the 8 but with the changes we are implementing unless we self implode you will see a massive improvement

Taylor deserves the right to at least implement his plans for the last year of his contract , same way I would of given Potter a 3rd year to do the same

if you bring in another coach his first season will more than likely be a failure because he wants his own roster , coaching staff , playing style etc , that will take time to implement and it will probably write off 6-8 rounds

Smart call is to keep Taylor for his final year and will prove the club is FINALLY becoming stable again

You are assuming players will re-sign with JT as coach and players will come with JT as coach, me I am not so sure, and the amount of players off contract would be to big of a risk in my opinion to gamble.
The club said last year top 8 2016, top 4 2017, so to miss the 8 is a fail.

 

[happy_tiger]

Yeah lets get Laurie Daley

He'll be out of work in a month

Unless someone can come up with a guaranteed 100 % better coach than Taylor who actually wants to come here we are wasting our time

Even someone who is marginally better isn't worth it , for all the change of personnel and then change of playing personnel is way too costly

You say it is too risky to change, that is fine, but I say it is too risky to let him stay if we miss the 8 again this year.

Unless its a Bellamy ,Hasler or Bennett its far too risky and still sends out the wrong message to any potential coaches and potential players

With the playing personnel we have we will still probably miss the 8 but with the changes we are implementing unless we self implode you will see a massive improvement

Taylor deserves the right to at least implement his plans for the last year of his contract , same way I would of given Potter a 3rd year to do the same

if you bring in another coach his first season will more than likely be a failure because he wants his own roster , coaching staff , playing style etc , that will take time to implement and it will probably write off 6-8 rounds

Smart call is to keep Taylor for his final year and will prove the club is FINALLY becoming stable again

You are assuming players will re-sign with JT as coach and players will come with JT as coach, me I am not so sure, and the amount of players off contract would be to big of a risk in my opinion to gamble.
The club said last year top 8 2016, top 4 2017, so to miss the 8 is a fail.

Management would tell players what their plan beyond 2017 are either way so I wouldn't panic

We need some sort of stability , just to prove we aren't the laughing stock yet again

Most people outside the Tigers had us getting the wooden spoon or bottom 2-4 , if we could manage a Top 10 finish , we will have exceeded most peoples expectations outside the club

We have recruited pretty well so far (Bar the problems that tool Mayer created ), I can't see what the issue is honestly

Any person who honestly saw us as Top 8 material pre season was dreaming and needed to take off their black ,tangerine and gold sunnies

 

[stevetiger]

Unless its a Bellamy ,Hasler or Bennett its far too risky and still sends out the wrong message to any potential coaches and potential players

It's not risky at all. It also sends the right message to potential coaches and players. The idea of keeping Taylor no matter what sends the wrong message.

Taylor deserves the right to at least implement his plans for the last year of his contract , same way I would of given Potter a 3rd year to do the same

Taylor deserves nothing at all.

Smart call is to keep Taylor for his final year and will prove the club is FINALLY becoming stable again

The club is doing fine. There is no need to worry about stuff like this.

The risk is that Taylor stuffs us up for another year. There is no other risk at this point.

 

[stevetiger]

We need some sort of stability , just to prove we aren't the laughing stock yet again

These comments kill me. We are not a laughing stock at all.

 

[gallagher]

Taylor deserves a farah free team.

 

[happy_tiger]

Unless its a Bellamy ,Hasler or Bennett its far too risky and still sends out the wrong message to any potential coaches and potential players

It's not risky at all. It also sends the right message to potential coaches and players. The idea of keeping Taylor no matter what sends the wrong message.

Taylor deserves the right to at least implement his plans for the last year of his contract , same way I would of given Potter a 3rd year to do the same

Taylor deserves nothing at all.

Smart call is to keep Taylor for his final year and will prove the club is FINALLY becoming stable again

The club is doing fine. There is no need to worry about stuff like this.

The risk is that Taylor stuffs us up for another year. There is no other risk at this point.

Yes whatever Steve

Still waiting for you to explain the Potter point from before and the other thread , who would be a better coaching option we can afford , why our side is a top 8 squad and how our squad matches up against the other 15 sides and is so good in your eyes

And all I hear is crickets and nada …...

All you do is take a contrary opinion on almost everything and back it up with jack , yet again

 

[Geo]

We could always adopt the Parra Model and roll through Coaches every couple of years…it has been working for them since 1986....Or the Warriors Sharks and Panthers for that matter...

Stability such as the Storm Broncos Dogs and until recently Manly the Rorters is overrated...I did see tho the Rorters re-signed Robinson till 2019 on the back of the season they are having...

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

We could always adopt the Parra Model and roll through Coaches every couple of years…it has been working for them since 1986....Or the Warriors Sharks and Panthers for that matter...

Stability such as the Storm Broncos Dogs and until recently Manly the Rorters is overrated...I did see tho the Rorters re-signed Robinson till 2019 on the back of the season they are having...

They did have Brian Smith for 9 years, but your point is valid nonetheless.

 

[tig_prmz]

Unless its a Bellamy ,Hasler or Bennett its far too risky and still sends out the wrong message to any potential coaches and potential players

It's not risky at all. It also sends the right message to potential coaches and players. The idea of keeping Taylor **no matter what** sends the wrong message.

That's not what anyone is saying. We have been progressing under JT. The board and the staff knew the route JT would be taking from the start of 2015 and we have to keep heading in the same direction as long as its showing improvement.

We're not setting a high bar but we are at least not regressing under JT.

 

[Eddie]

You get stability from winning and winning often. Its not some holy principal some clubs have and other clubs dont.

Bellemy came straight into Melbourne and never missed a finals.

Hasler took the Dogs to a GF in Year 1 .

Robinson a Premeirship in Year 1.

Mcguire finals year 1 and then a premiership

Bennett GF first year back at Brisbane.

Thats why these guys are the best. They go in and win early and win often.

Sheens earnt a decade because he won a premiership early and had 3 premierships before even arriving. Some coaches have money in th ebank if you know what I mean. Of course the Roosters are re-signing Robinson because he is proven, 3 straight minor premierships and a premiership.

The only guy who can stop the speculation is JT, by winning football games. If he finish the year around the 8 I think he deserves the final year of his contract.

 

[Geo]

Would be an interesting hypothetical if one of the Uber successful Coaches were to come to the Wests Tigers ….would also be interesting if they had instant success or how long it would take to assemble a Playing Roster to match their successful tenures at their current Clubs...

 

[TrueTiger]

We need some sort of stability , just to prove we aren't the laughing stock yet again

These comments kill me. We are not a laughing stock at all.

Not now with Taylor sorting things out….but we were for a very long time...once again your hate toward Taylor clouds your judgement,he at least is starting to get this team to do what they hadn't done before on a consistent level...DEFEND and grind out a game...hence the recent wins...

 

[Eddie]

TrueTiger I am really not sure if that is the case.

We are currently the 15th best defence in the league. That is pretty bad.

In our last 6 games we have all still conceeded 132 points at an average of 23 a game.

And two games ago we conceded 32 against a Chooks side with 3 wins all year.

Ok, we have won 4 from our past 6 and ultimately if we are winning I am happy. However for every step forward we seem to take another step back and its usually just around the corner.

This season could still go either way and our form for mine is hard to read which is not really what you want from a side.

 

[TrueTiger]

TrueTiger I am really not sure if that is the case.

We are currently the 15th best defence in the league. That is pretty bad.

In our last 6 games we have all still conceeded 132 points at an average of 23 a game.

And two games ago we conceded 32 against a Chooks side with 3 wins all year.

Ok, we have won 4 from our past 6 and ultimately if we are winning I am happy. However for every step forward we seem to take another step back and its usually just around the corner.

This season could still go either way and our form for mine is hard to read which is not really what you want from a side.

Eddie,don't forget our two overrated and overhyped halves had no idea about NRL defensive structures that JT is trying to teach them…hence why they were called turnstiles..the fringe first graders we have are starting to see what NRL is all about as well..altogether the team is starting to get the drift...cheers mate...