Te Maire Martin to Centre?

stevied

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I'm just wondering whether Te Maire Martin could be coaxed into considering his first grade future as a centre. Most people on this forum think that there isn't room on the Tigers books for two young, highly paid five eighths. It's also obvious that Martin will want to chase first grade opportunities and the money that goes with it by going to another club. If you look at his skills set, he has an excellent passing game, good speed, slick footwork and a solid fend. These are all skills required of a centre. In addition, he is a capable defender, including the tackling of much larger forwards head on. However, he is only an average kicker, which is a fundamental requirement of a five eighth. Could he be blooded in the NSW Cup as a centre? He seems to be far too great a talent to lose, especially when our back line depth in the backs, particularly the centres, is so thin. By the way, who do we have in the lower grades regarding centres? Seve, Heleta, Fine? I was surprised Millone was promoted as he didn't seem to be doing much. An honest trier but not much more….
 
I don't see him as a centre at all unfortunately.

Only chance of shuffling players around is to move Teddy to the centre with Moses at fullback. While i think Tedesco would be a good centre, im not sure about Moses at 1\. Besides one good game Moses hasn't looked good at 1, so i really can't see us fitting Martin in.
 
Alot of young 5/8's have been "blooded" so to speak in the centres, so i like the theory here. However if he wants to play first grade at 6(and i'm sure he does) i reckon there will be a few clubs willing to offer him the chance. Sea Eagles and Warriors are two clubs that instantly come to mind that would be interested. If somehow no one wants him then i think it's a great option.
 
If this kid is as good as they say i would be keeping him regardless of Moses,the laters kicking game against the GC was one of the worst i have witnessed in FG for a long time,not to mention his atrocious defence and reluctance to run the ball in attack.
 
@king sirro said:
I don't see him as a centre at all unfortunately.

Only chance of shuffling players around is to move Teddy to the centre with Moses at fullback. While i think Tedesco would be a good centre, im not sure about Moses at 1\. Besides one good game Moses hasn't looked good at 1, so i really can't see us fitting Martin in.

This would be my option for Friday night and remember Moses played heaps of fullback in the 20s /reggies and seen him play a couple of good games in 1st grade last season ,then Drinky in the 5/8 ….Taylor has to do something because he is flogging a dead horse ATM. To many young ones ATM Martin will have to wait and not his position not saying in the future though.
 
@Chevy said:
If this kid is as good as they say i would be keeping him regardless of Moses,the laters kicking game against the GC was one of the worst i have witnessed in FG for a long time,not to mention his atrocious defence and reluctance to run the ball in attack.

I thought Moses's defence was pretty good against the Titans, and it was his best running game yet.

From what I've seen of Martin, he has talent but is a long way from being consistent enough for first grade.
 
Centre is possibly the hardest position on the field in today's game… Its definitely the hardest position in defence!

If he had size, it might work but he doesnt. Followed up with he is one of the poorest defenders I've seen in 20's since its inception.

NRL is a long way off for Martin!

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Yeah…we could use another player who has defensive issues at NYC level defending in the hardest position to defend in the NRL ...
 
@Snake said:
@king sirro said:
I don't see him as a centre at all unfortunately.

Only chance of shuffling players around is to move Teddy to the centre with Moses at fullback. While i think Tedesco would be a good centre, im not sure about Moses at 1\. Besides one good game Moses hasn't looked good at 1, so i really can't see us fitting Martin in.

This would be my option for Friday night and remember Moses played heaps of fullback in the 20s /reggies and seen him play a couple of good games in 1st grade last season ,then Drinky in the 5/8 ….Taylor has to do something because he is flogging a dead horse ATM. To many young ones ATM Martin will have to wait and not his position not saying in the future though.

The logical part of me says no way move Tedesco from fullback. But part of me can't help but agree with this move. It can't hurt to try it. Drinkwater may be just the type of player this "structure" needs while Moses at fullback can play within the structure but also with the freedom to play what he see's. Teddy would provide great spark at centre which me miss also. I don't know, I'm torn about this one.
 
@Chevy said:
If this kid is as good as they say i would be keeping him regardless of Moses,the laters kicking game against the GC was one of the worst i have witnessed in FG for a long time,not to mention his atrocious defence and reluctance to run the ball in attack.

I'm surprised Moses kicking game hasn't been mentioned elsewhere - it has been ordinary most of the season but definitely sunk to a new low against the Titans.
 
@king sirro said:
@Snake said:
@king sirro said:
I don't see him as a centre at all unfortunately.

Only chance of shuffling players around is to move Teddy to the centre with Moses at fullback. While i think Tedesco would be a good centre, im not sure about Moses at 1\. Besides one good game Moses hasn't looked good at 1, so i really can't see us fitting Martin in.

This would be my option for Friday night and remember Moses played heaps of fullback in the 20s /reggies and seen him play a couple of good games in 1st grade last season ,then Drinky in the 5/8 ….Taylor has to do something because he is flogging a dead horse ATM. To many young ones ATM Martin will have to wait and not his position not saying in the future though.

The logical part of me says no way move Tedesco from fullback. But part of me can't help but agree with this move. It can't hurt to try it. Drinkwater may be just the type of player this "structure" needs while Moses at fullback can play within the structure but also with the freedom to play what he see's. Teddy would provide great spark at centre which me miss also. I don't know, I'm torn about this one.

Our centres never see the ball - Tedesco would be wasted there. However a swap with Moses to FB and Tedesco to 5/8 might work.
 
@Masterton said:
@Chevy said:
If this kid is as good as they say i would be keeping him regardless of Moses,the laters kicking game against the GC was one of the worst i have witnessed in FG for a long time,not to mention his atrocious defence and reluctance to run the ball in attack.

I thought Moses's defence was pretty good against the Titans, and it was his best running game yet.

From what I've seen of Martin, he has talent but is a long way from being consistent enough for first grade.

Agree Masterton, apart from Moses's kicking game he was solid. What worried me was Brooks looked lost a lot of times he had the ball. I feel his confidence is nose diving under Taylor's coaching, hence his poor decisions in defense. Hopefully they will both come good and win us enough games to avoid the spoon.
 
I think he he has a skill set that could be developed in to a J Lyon style centre, but not this year.
 
@Chevy said:
If this kid is as good as they say i would be keeping him regardless of Moses,the laters kicking game against the GC was one of the worst i have witnessed in FG for a long time,not to mention his atrocious defence and reluctance to run the ball in attack.

Have you actually been watching Moses in defense or someone else thinking it was him.

I wouldn't mind half the team being as good in defense and having his attitude.

Martin is 18 - 24 months away from NRL. in my opinion - what do we do in the mean time?
 
I think that if Martin continues to improve he might end up pushing Moses to centre. in a few years time.
 
Personally I think Te Maire Martin is behind Moses and would certainly struggle at centre. Having said that both of them are probably better than Drinkwater. I've seen him a few times this year and there is a reason he hasn't sighted first grade at a few teams.
 
Agree with earlier posters suggestion for Teddy to moved to 5/8 and Moses to fullback except i wouldn't start them there but would swap them mid-game.

I think the defensive efforts are blunting Moses' attack and while fullback probably runs more, it's not the same as making 25+ tackles a game.

The only other combination that might work is Sirro to 5/8, Teddy to centre and Moses to fullback.

In terms of centres I thought that Milone had a decent debut. Perhaps something to work with?
 
@Tiger Watto said:
Centre is possibly the hardest position on the field in today's game… Its definitely the hardest position in defence!

If he had size, it might work but he doesnt. Followed up with he is one of the poorest defenders I've seen in 20's since its inception.

NRL is a long way off for Martin!

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Agree Watto.
 
@willow said:
@Tiger Watto said:
Centre is possibly the hardest position on the field in today's game… Its definitely the hardest position in defence!

If he had size, it might work but he doesnt. Followed up with he is one of the poorest defenders I've seen in 20's since its inception.

NRL is a long way off for Martin!

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Agree Watto.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Martin playing as a fullback at some stage of his career
 
We should look into signing this young lady. I'm sure she'd fit into our cap comfortably and has a bit of courage about her in defence.

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8995205
 
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