Team 2020 v Team 2021

[sleeve]

Kei,Cinni and Hoffman all in first grade roster, as well.

 

[Cairnstigers]

Please tell me Brooks will be far ,far better in 2021 ......

Brooks will be far better in 2021

 

[Papacito]

I'm expecting a big improvement in defence.

I feel our defence fell off a cliff when Benji came back in the team for 2 reasons:
1. Benji wasn't up to the defensive side and was regularly getting out paced, and the rest of the right side had no confidence in him
2. Benji's high risk low reward style meant we had to defend more than usual

AD will have his own defensive issues, but I think that will improve over the season. If whoever is playing left wing can hold their own and handle kicks as well as not rushing in too early, I think this area will improve. Tamou is also a much better defender than Aloiai.

For mine, Benji wasn't perfect but there were others reasons our defence wasn't up to scratch.

Blokes regularly dropping balls early in the tackle count, fumbling play the balls, giving away penalties/possession and putting us under pressure was a big factor.

Better individual skill levels and guys that know how to get repeat sets will ease a lot of pressure and help improve our defence.

 

[Norsington]

Love the chart, does put things into perspective. My only criticism is that the chart is leaning heavily on the optimistic scale and assuming that a lot of players will perform better than 2020, and that no players will regress. E.g. I wouldn't be surprised if Nofo regresses a bit in 2021. Not because he will be a worse player, but now that he doesn't have Benji setting up a lot of his tries

 

[jadtiger]

Not because he will be a worse player, but now that he doesn’t have Benji setting up a lot of his tries

If you have a look at Nofs tries Benji didnt "set up" much at all,usually it was just a kick and hope for a miracle before it went out

 

[sleeve]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

More attack then the top side.

 

[sleeve]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

If only they were eligable, they would trouble the top side in the backs.

 

[jadtiger]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

If only they were eligable, they would trouble the top side in the backs.

Its a massive step up to NRL which has only been made harder by the suspension of lower grades due to covid in 2020.They will need time and patience and i hope they get it and are not thrown in too early

 

[BAGNF05]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

If only they were eligable, they would trouble the top side in the backs.



Its a massive step up to NRL which has only been made harder by the suspension of lower grades due to covid in 2020.They will need time and patience and i hope they get it and are not thrown in too early

I don’t think that’s very well understood on here. Back in the days of U20’s only about 15% of players were making the leap to regular NRL. It’s a huge jump in class, we are taking a bigger gamble than people realise with our youth policy.

 

[bathursttiger1]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

Playing Simpkins at hooker that's a big ask for the props.

 

[jadtiger]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

If only they were eligable, they would trouble the top side in the backs.



Its a massive step up to NRL which has only been made harder by the suspension of lower grades due to covid in 2020.They will need time and patience and i hope they get it and are not thrown in too early

I don’t think that’s very well understood on here. Back in the days of U20’s only about 15% of players were making the leap to regular NRL. It’s a huge jump in class, we are taking a bigger gamble than people realise with our youth policy.

You are right but i believe it is still the best policy for the club with the highest chance of success

 

[BAGNF05]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

If only they were eligable, they would trouble the top side in the backs.



Its a massive step up to NRL which has only been made harder by the suspension of lower grades due to covid in 2020.They will need time and patience and i hope they get it and are not thrown in too early

I don’t think that’s very well understood on here. Back in the days of U20’s only about 15% of players were making the leap to regular NRL. It’s a huge jump in class, we are taking a bigger gamble than people realise with our youth policy.



You are right but i believe it is still the best policy for the club with the highest chance of success

I agree but I’m going in without high expectations this year. 2022 I will be expecting the club to have success or otherwise put the broom through the joint.

 

[gallagher]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

If only they were eligable, they would trouble the top side in the backs.



Its a massive step up to NRL which has only been made harder by the suspension of lower grades due to covid in 2020.They will need time and patience and i hope they get it and are not thrown in too early

I don’t think that’s very well understood on here. Back in the days of U20’s only about 15% of players were making the leap to regular NRL. It’s a huge jump in class, we are taking a bigger gamble than people realise with our youth policy.



You are right but i believe it is still the best policy for the club with the highest chance of success


I agree but I’m going in without high expectations this year. 2022 I will be expecting the club to have success or otherwise put the broom through the joint.

We've tried the broom through the football dept, we need a snow plow up higher.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

If only they were eligable, they would trouble the top side in the backs.



Its a massive step up to NRL which has only been made harder by the suspension of lower grades due to covid in 2020.They will need time and patience and i hope they get it and are not thrown in too early

I don’t think that’s very well understood on here. Back in the days of U20’s only about 15% of players were making the leap to regular NRL. It’s a huge jump in class, we are taking a bigger gamble than people realise with our youth policy.



You are right but i believe it is still the best policy for the club with the highest chance of success


I agree but I’m going in without high expectations this year. 2022 I will be expecting the club to have success or otherwise put the broom through the joint.

We've tried the broom through the football dept, we need a snow plow up higher.

Why ? Give it a rest ! Next to one agrees with you . You clearly hate the bloke . Of all the people on here you’re the one person I have zero time for . Rarely anything you say is objective . At what point are you going to give the club / Pascoe some credit ? I know you can’t see this because you always block anyone who calls you out on your crap . Which it is crap .

 

[gallagher]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

If only they were eligable, they would trouble the top side in the backs.



Its a massive step up to NRL which has only been made harder by the suspension of lower grades due to covid in 2020.They will need time and patience and i hope they get it and are not thrown in too early

I don’t think that’s very well understood on here. Back in the days of U20’s only about 15% of players were making the leap to regular NRL. It’s a huge jump in class, we are taking a bigger gamble than people realise with our youth policy.



You are right but i believe it is still the best policy for the club with the highest chance of success


I agree but I’m going in without high expectations this year. 2022 I will be expecting the club to have success or otherwise put the broom through the joint.

We've tried the broom through the football dept, we need a snow plow up higher.

Why ? Give it a rest ! Next to one agrees with you . You clearly hate the bloke . Of all the people on here you’re the one person I have zero time for . Rarely anything you say is objective . At what point are you going to give the club / Pascoe some credit ? I know you can’t see this because you always block anyone who calls you out on your crap . Which it is crap .

Boo! When they get results.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

If only they were eligable, they would trouble the top side in the backs.



Its a massive step up to NRL which has only been made harder by the suspension of lower grades due to covid in 2020.They will need time and patience and i hope they get it and are not thrown in too early

I don’t think that’s very well understood on here. Back in the days of U20’s only about 15% of players were making the leap to regular NRL. It’s a huge jump in class, we are taking a bigger gamble than people realise with our youth policy.



You are right but i believe it is still the best policy for the club with the highest chance of success


I agree but I’m going in without high expectations this year. 2022 I will be expecting the club to have success or otherwise put the broom through the joint.

We've tried the broom through the football dept, we need a snow plow up higher.

Why ? Give it a rest ! Next to one agrees with you . You clearly hate the bloke . Of all the people on here you’re the one person I have zero time for . Rarely anything you say is objective . At what point are you going to give the club / Pascoe some credit ? I know you can’t see this because you always block anyone who calls you out on your crap . Which it is crap .

Boo! When they get results.

Blame Cleary for that . He was a snake oil Salesman , and Pascoe fell for it. He made his apparent close mate look like a right mug. Which Pascoe did a pretty good job of that himself with the Farah debacle. If he wasn’t so good at running a football business he would have been fired . But the club makes money , despite all the bad press from the last 5 -10 years. Plus we were crap and the whole NRL knew it . From the juniors to NRL , to the football department , to training facilities, to junior coaching , to simply liaising with Balmain and Wests juniors .
As of the offseason next year , we will finally be ? competing on a level playing field .
We have clear pathways which Madge and Hartigan set up. We are signing the best juniors around , the coaching at junior level is improving and so is the communication from Madge to the bottom.
The only thing the club doesn’t do , is win in NRL enough to play 1-2 extra weeks of footy every year . And what’s the point of that ?

 

[gallagher]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

If only they were eligable, they would trouble the top side in the backs.



Its a massive step up to NRL which has only been made harder by the suspension of lower grades due to covid in 2020.They will need time and patience and i hope they get it and are not thrown in too early

I don’t think that’s very well understood on here. Back in the days of U20’s only about 15% of players were making the leap to regular NRL. It’s a huge jump in class, we are taking a bigger gamble than people realise with our youth policy.



You are right but i believe it is still the best policy for the club with the highest chance of success


I agree but I’m going in without high expectations this year. 2022 I will be expecting the club to have success or otherwise put the broom through the joint.

We've tried the broom through the football dept, we need a snow plow up higher.

Why ? Give it a rest ! Next to one agrees with you . You clearly hate the bloke . Of all the people on here you’re the one person I have zero time for . Rarely anything you say is objective . At what point are you going to give the club / Pascoe some credit ? I know you can’t see this because you always block anyone who calls you out on your crap . Which it is crap .

Boo! When they get results.

Blame Cleary for that . He was a snake oil Salesman , and Pascoe fell for it. He made his apparent close mate look like a right mug. Which Pascoe did a pretty good job of that himself with the Farah debacle. If he wasn’t so good at running a football business he would have been fired . But the club makes money , despite all the bad press from the last 5 -10 years. Plus we were crap and the whole NRL knew it . From the juniors to NRL , to the football department , to training facilities, to junior coaching , to simply liaising with Balmain and Wests juniors .
As of the offseason next year , we will finally be ? competing on a level playing field .
We have clear pathways which Madge and Hartigan set up. We are signing the best juniors around , the coaching at junior level is improving and so is the communication from Madge to the bottom.
The only thing the club doesn’t do , is win in NRL enough to play 1-2 extra weeks of footy every year . And what’s the point of that ?

Whats the point of making the semis? Lol, you got me!!

 

[hammertime]

The other thing to add to the comparison is that we've probably still got the cash for a marque (or close to) signing given how much jrey would have freed up.

 

[gallagher]

The other thing to add to the comparison is that we've probably still got the cash for a marque (or close to) signing given how much jrey would have freed up.

You get the feeling there's more player movement before the season starts.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

How's this for our Canterbury Cup side from players in our squads:

1. Kepaoa
2. Fitzgibbon
3. Hoffman
4. Kei
5. Roberts-Davis
6. Tannous
7. Madden
8. Seyfarth
9. Simpkins
10. Packer
11. Bradley
12. Tuilagi  not surprised if this guy is in the top grade pretty soon
13. Garner
14. MCK
15. Rodwell
16. Dillon
17. I. Fuatimau
18. C. Fuatimau
19. Kautoga
20. Stapleton
21. Tuifua  man tank ..
22. Rogers-Smith
23. O’Kane
24. Gebbie
25. Tumeth

If only they were eligable, they would trouble the top side in the backs.



Its a massive step up to NRL which has only been made harder by the suspension of lower grades due to covid in 2020.They will need time and patience and i hope they get it and are not thrown in too early

I don’t think that’s very well understood on here. Back in the days of U20’s only about 15% of players were making the leap to regular NRL. It’s a huge jump in class, we are taking a bigger gamble than people realise with our youth policy.



You are right but i believe it is still the best policy for the club with the highest chance of success


I agree but I’m going in without high expectations this year. 2022 I will be expecting the club to have success or otherwise put the broom through the joint.

We've tried the broom through the football dept, we need a snow plow up higher.

Why ? Give it a rest ! Next to one agrees with you . You clearly hate the bloke . Of all the people on here you’re the one person I have zero time for . Rarely anything you say is objective . At what point are you going to give the club / Pascoe some credit ? I know you can’t see this because you always block anyone who calls you out on your crap . Which it is crap .

Boo! When they get results.

Blame Cleary for that . He was a snake oil Salesman , and Pascoe fell for it. He made his apparent close mate look like a right mug. Which Pascoe did a pretty good job of that himself with the Farah debacle. If he wasn’t so good at running a football business he would have been fired . But the club makes money , despite all the bad press from the last 5 -10 years. Plus we were crap and the whole NRL knew it . From the juniors to NRL , to the football department , to training facilities, to junior coaching , to simply liaising with Balmain and Wests juniors .
As of the offseason next year , we will finally be ? competing on a level playing field .
We have clear pathways which Madge and Hartigan set up. We are signing the best juniors around , the coaching at junior level is improving and so is the communication from Madge to the bottom.
The only thing the club doesn’t do , is win in NRL enough to play 1-2 extra weeks of footy every year . And what’s the point of that ?

Whats the point of making the semis? Lol, you got me!!

And making up the numbers !!!!! ????? It’s a waste of time . Fools gold ! I would have loved it sure . But it’s empty calories . A Coca Cola or Mars bar . Whatever ... go post in the magpies thread ..