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What about Luai on the bench first game back ,
Leave AD and Jock as is
Move Skelton and put Macca on wing and bring in May left side if ready
Lai come in for AD or Madden and just runs riot , one thing our left side defence needs to be strong , Stags is a very good player and strong , Macca needs to lift as he has been average just like Skelton , but Skelton hits harder and runs harder , big call for the wing spot
 
upthetigers said:
AD to lock... AD to centre.

PLEASE STOP THIS NONSENSE.

He has been killing it in the halves and trained there in the preseason let's not be ridiculous.

Madden has been good but he's not the only reason we're winning games. Luai back will add some defensive starch to the squad. He's a much better defender then Madden.
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Our contrasting opinion to yours is not ridiculous any more than your differing view to ours. You're right, the Tigers' wins are not due to Madden. No on is saying that. The forwards are laying the platform and the team are showing incredible resilience. However, the attack, particularly in the backline, is flowing due to Jock's straightening of the attack and ability to provide space for Douehi and co. We have to separate our favourite player thinking and look closely at what's happening in the attacking structures.
 
stevied said:
Our contrasting opinion to yours is not ridiculous any more than your differing view to ours. You're right, the Tigers' wins are not due to Madden. No on is saying that. The forwards are laying the platform and the team are showing incredible resilience. However, the attack, particularly in the backline, is flowing due to Jock's straightening of the attack and ability to provide space for Douehi and co. We have to separate our favourite player thinking and look closely at what's happening in the attacking structures.
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I still would not say the attack is "flowing" its still quite clunky. That Newcastle left side in defense was extraordinarily bad and we left at least 3 tries out there. Not saying that will magically change once Luai is back, however we need to give him and AD a fair crack at 7 & 6 especially considering they spent the whole pre-season training there. Jock will probably go to the bench or KOE with a smile on his face as we have plucked him from obscurity and his share price will have now gone through the roof with clubs that are looking for an organizing/kicking half (Dragons).
 
TheEnz said:
I still would not say the attack is "flowing" its still quite clunky. That Newcastle left side in defense was extraordinarily bad and we left at least 3 tries out there. Not saying that will magically change once Luai is back, however we need to give him and AD a fair crack at 7 & 6 especially considering they spent the whole pre-season training there. Jock will probably go to the bench or KOE with a smile on his face as we have plucked him from obscurity and his share price will have now gone through the roof with clubs that are looking for an organizing/kicking half (Dragons).
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I agree, our attack can still be better and is sometimes a little disjointed or clunky, however, it has improved a lot since Jock was there. In the first two games v Cowboys and Rabbitohs, our attack was far more clunky, in my view. In those two games Luai and Douehi took turns having outstanding individual performances that didn't necessarily equate with good halfback play. We should have won the game easily v Souths but our halves couldn't convert in the red zone. Whether or not, the off season focused on the Luai/ Douehi combination or not, Benji should be flexible in his thinking and put personslities aside for the betterment of the overall functioning of the team. That's my view but, you needn't worry, I think Marshall will stick with Luai and Douehi and Jock will go to 14.
 
1. Jahream Bula
2. Sunia Turuva
3. Patrick Herbert
4. Taylan May
5. Heamasi Makasini
6. Jerome Luai [C]
7. Adam Douihei
8. Terrell May
9. Apisai Koroisau [C]
10. Fonua Pole
11. Samuela Fainu
12. Kai Pearce-Paul
13. Alex Twal

14. Latu Fainu
15. Sione Fainu
16. Royce Hunt
17. Alex Seyfarth

18. Bunty Afoa
19. Jock Madden / Tino Tavana

Harsh on Madden, but I think this is our best team, maybe Toa gets into it if fit.
 
Bigscreentv said:
1. Jahream Bula
2. Sunia Turuva
3. Patrick Herbert
4. Taylan May
5. Heamasi Makasini
6. Jerome Luai [C]
7. Adam Douihei
8. Terrell May
9. Apisai Koroisau [C]
10. Fonua Pole
11. Samuela Fainu
12. Kai Pearce-Paul
13. Alex Twal

14. Latu Fainu
15. Sione Fainu
16. Royce Hunt
17. Alex Seyfarth

18. Bunty Afoa
19. Jock Madden / Tino Tavana

Harsh on Madden, but I think this is our best team, maybe Toa gets into it if fit.
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Only my view but defintely harsh on Madden and, also, detrimental to the team. You obviously have not been following Toa's efforts in Cup, because based on that form, he definitely does not deserve to be picked. However, Herbert has earned his place in the squad because he was excellent v Knights and was playing well in Cup.
 
Tiger Tarl said:
In my opinion, Luai saves that Dom Young try in the corner on the weekend. Madden just not strong enough to force him out. Still a little suspect in defence but don't get me wrong, he has been great for us.

More concerned if Samuela is out. He and KPP have been enormous for us in both attack and defence. Could be the difference in scoring or saving a try without him.
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I do get you wrong. Luai would not have been there to attempt the tackle. Luai is more suspect in defence.
Don't recall him ever being in that last ditch effort to prevent a try?
And he did miss a tackle and let in a try in his game earlier this year.
Maddens defence and efforts are first class IMO.
 
Bigscreentv said:
1. Jahream Bula
2. Sunia Turuva
3. Patrick Herbert
4. Taylan May
5. Heamasi Makasini
6. Jerome Luai [C]
7. Adam Douihei
8. Terrell May
9. Apisai Koroisau [C]
10. Fonua Pole
11. Samuela Fainu
12. Kai Pearce-Paul
13. Alex Twal

14. Latu Fainu
15. Sione Fainu
16. Royce Hunt
17. Alex Seyfarth

18. Bunty Afoa
19. Jock Madden / Tino Tavana

Harsh on Madden, but I think this is our best team, maybe Toa gets into it if fit.
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Now Thats a solid Team
 
Tiger Stripes said:
I do get you wrong. Luai would not have been there to attempt the tackle. Luai is more suspect in defence.
Don't recall him ever being in that last ditch effort to prevent a try?
And he did miss a tackle and let in a try in his game earlier this year.
Maddens defence and efforts are first class IMO.
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And, to me, it's nitpicking. Madden is not there to prevent human behemoths like Dom Young crossing for tries. He, at least made the effort and forced Young into contorting to get the ball down. Also, Luai did miss the simple one on one tackle that in the end, cost us the game v Souths.
 
Tiger Stripes said:
I do get you wrong. Luai would not have been there to attempt the tackle. Luai is more suspect in defence.
Don't recall him ever being in that last ditch effort to prevent a try?
And he did miss a tackle and let in a try in his game earlier this year.
Maddens defence and efforts are first class IMO.
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You have selective memory because Luai’s made cover tackles many times. Madden’s defence was awful in the Wahs game. They are halves, they aren’t there for their defence
 
stevied said:
And, to me, it's nitpicking. Madden is not there to prevent human behemoths like Dom Young crossing for tries. He, at least made the effort and forced Young into contorting to get the ball down. Also, Luai did miss the simple one on one tackle that in the end, cost us the game v Souths.
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He missed him completely in a very weak attempt

https://www.reddit.com/r/nrl/comments/1sj74z2/round_6_tigers_vs_knights_dom_young_in_the_corner

Bula was the one that made him contort.
 
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