Tedesco Thread || He's staying!

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@GNR4LIFE said:
@Tiger In The Gong said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Lol argument should end right here.

Why should it end there gnr4life?

You cant think that's a relevant point, surely?

Comparing the Roosters fact based decades of signings to what a few worried fans on a forum would like to sign.

I think the point you're criticizing another club for buying a comp, but people here are quite happy for the club to jump at any marquee player that comes on the market which wouldn't make us any different.

You cant see the difference between buying a player and buying an entire team?

Honestly, that is absolute rubbish.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Tiger In The Gong said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Lol argument should end right here.

Why should it end there gnr4life?

You cant think that's a relevant point, surely?

Comparing the Roosters fact based decades of signings to what a few worried fans on a forum would like to sign.

I think the point you're criticizing another club for buying a comp, but people here are quite happy for the club to jump at any marquee player that comes on the market which wouldn't make us any different.

You cant see the difference between buying a player and buying an entire team?

Honestly, that is absolute rubbish.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Black Orange White said:
I'm having a feeling this could just be some big bluff for Nofoaluma. Hope I'm wrong and both sign really quickly.

I think i'm prepared to sacrifice Nofo if it means keeping Tedesco.

It could be any of the WT's juniors coming through

If you continually spend over for players something has to give maybe not for 2014 but beyond

Could they be lining themselves at a shot at Sue or Sironen

As someone else said , they are more concerned about signing players so others can't .
 
If they want some of our forwards, they can have Buchanan and BMM. Unfortunately both aren't off contract til end of next year. If they want backs, Koroibete and Lulia are both off contract.
 
@innsaneink said:
I think that already is the case

I don't think it is. The NRL have to agree to the figure given in the Salary Cap but it doesn't have to be at the amount his former club said they would pay to keep him.

The NRL refused to register Izzy to the EELS as the figure was to low and it took a long time to come up with the number in the cap for SBW.

The salary cap in an ideal world would be totally transparent and have the figures placed on a player set by the NRL. Whilst that wouldn't stop the Roosters for getting James Tedesco it may mean he goes into their cap at a far greater figure than they hoped. It also doesn't limit the amount of TPA a player can get, it does however most likely mean for them to get him they would have to shed additional players to fit him in the salary cap at the level the NRL decides he is valued at. Again this would help even out the competition. If to get Tedesco the roosters had to let for example Moga and Hastings go it will make for a better NRL.
 
I hope Tedesco stays. He is a local junior who looks like he could have a big future in the game. But if another club offers him a better deal than the Tigers and he takes it, I would happily wish him all the best and thank him for his efforts here at the Tigers.

In my opinion the Tigers have made some great decisions since Benji decided to leave. Getting Brooks, Woods and Simona signed up to long term deals and ensuring Farah stays a Tigers for the rest of his career have been great moves. We also have young exciting players like Moses and Austin still to in injected into the first grade side when the time is right. Imagine if Benji accepted what the club offered him last year. We would have probably lost Brooks, Woods would have been hard to keep and we wouldn't be in any position to keep Tedesco here.

I'm sure the Tigers will offer Tedesco what they can and what they believe he is worth. But if he chooses to be elsewhere, I will still sit there and yell, scream and support whoever is wearing the number 1 jersey for the Tigers in 2015 and watch him play off the back of the opportunities Brooks and others create for him.
 
Mayer and the club are in a really hard space at present, every extra dollar they throw at Teddy will come off another players contract. So retaining young Nofo and Siro will become that much harder and any other player who is not under contract for next year.

Iam sure they are looking at offloading some big contract players to make space, but that only works if you can find a buyer and it also plays havoc with team harmony.

One things for certain Teddy has to get the best possible deal for himself because in a split second it can be all over

If I was a betting man I think we are a 40/60 chance of signing him, but that is probably my negativity coming to the fore
 
If retaining Tedesco means losing Siro and Nofoaluma then so be it imo. I was against sacrificing Nofoaluma, but now that its looking more and more likely we're gonna lose Tedesco, whatever it takes now.
 
Well it is strategy.

If you have a premiership window set for 2016 or 2018 or whatever, then you can forecast future threats from other clubs and then try to bid up the price now of their key players so that the synergy will be reduced in the future as the player contract prices will force some out. The player managers would also become the agents of clubs that employ such strategy as it gives better deals for their clients and thus, them.
 
@Irvine said:
Did you just start following the Wests Tigers this year ?

Wests Magpies HM player of the year 2009
Wests SG ball player of the year 2010
Wests Tigers under 20's player of the year 2011
Wests Tigers rookie of the year 2013
City rep 2013
Italian rep 2013

Thanks for stopping by Mrs Mullaney

Happy to oblige Mrs Tedesco.
 
@sunshine coast tiger said:
@innsaneink said:
I think that already is the case

I don't think it is. **The NRL have to agree to the figure given in the Salary Cap but it doesn't have to be at the amount his former club said they would pay to keep him.**

The NRL refused to register Izzy to the EELS as the figure was to low and it took a long time to come up with the number in the cap for SBW.

The salary cap in an ideal world would be totally transparent and have the figures placed on a player set by the NRL. Whilst that wouldn't stop the Roosters for getting James Tedesco it may mean he goes into their cap at a far greater figure than they hoped. It also doesn't limit the amount of TPA a player can get, it does however most likely mean for them to get him they would have to shed additional players to fit him in the salary cap at the level the NRL decides he is valued at. Again this would help even out the competition. If to get Tedesco the roosters had to let for example Moga and Hastings go it will make for a better NRL.

Thats what I read yesterday but didnt focus on it as I was looking for soemthing else.
Cheers
 
@alex said:
If they want some of our forwards, they can have Buchanan and BMM. Unfortunately both aren't off contract til end of next year. If they want backs, Koroibete and Lulia are both off contract.

Lulia signed for 2 years,this year and next,and Jackson Hastings plays both fullback and in the halves,he is a real talent.
 
@sunshine coast tiger said:
The salary cap in an ideal world would be totally transparent and have the figures placed on a player set by the NRL. .

have to disagree with this: how can the nrl determine what any player is worth to any team?!

lets say the tigers need a really good centre and a bidding war starts between them and the player's current club. the tigers REALLY want/need him and 14 other teams really dont. it would be beneficial for the tigers to pay way more than what would be considered the players general worth (ala fantasy league) but they wouldnt be able to get him because he isnt worth that much to all the other clubs.
 
@turnstyle said:
@sunshine coast tiger said:
The salary cap in an ideal world would be totally transparent and have the figures placed on a player set by the NRL. .

have to disagree with this: how can the nrl determine what any player is worth to any team?!

lets say the tigers need a really good centre and a bidding war starts between them and the player's current club. the tigers REALLY want/need him and 14 other teams really dont. it would be beneficial for the tigers to pay way more than what would be considered the players general worth (ala fantasy league) but they wouldnt be able to get him because he isnt worth that much to all the other clubs.

There is nothing to stop us getting him. Under my proposal if we valued him at for example $500k and his current club $400k, we can get him. My theory is his current club should be able to say to the NRL we offered him $400k under the salary cap. The NRL should then refuse to register his contract unless it for at least $400K under the salary cap.
In the above we would still get the player and pay him $500k of which $400 is in the salary cap. We cant pay him $500k and have him in the salary cap at $300k. It probably means if we really want him we will have to shred some additional players to make way in the salary cap. This would help to spread the talent out and not have clubs stockpile all the best players on small amounts under the salary cap but pay them huge money outside the cap in TPAs. It would not stop a player earning additional money it just would be set what his minimum value has to be under the cap.
Whilst currently the NRL refuses to register some players as their salary cap is too low they don't take this additional step. Why should for example Cronulla offer Fifita $700k a year and the dogs $850k a year, the dogs should have to put him in the salary cap at least $700k. It is likely currently they will put him in at around $450-500K. This additional money if charged to the dogs would see them have to release some additional players if they want him, again spreading the talent further.
 
It can be argued that he should get as much as he can because a footballers career is so short…if it wasn't for our rehab staff his career would have been much shorter. If he leaves I hope he slings them some cash
 
@alex said:
I can only find reports Lulia is here for 1

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http://www.zerotackle.com/nrl/wests-tigers-secure-top-young-talent-10434/

WESTS TIGERS SECURE TOP YOUNG TALENT
WESTTIGERS.COM.AU – JULY 18, 2013
POSTED IN: KEITH LULIA, KYLE LOVETT, MARIKA KOROIBETE, PLAYER MOVEMENTS 2014, TIM SIMONA, WESTS TIGERS
Tim Simona
Two-year deal for Simona
Wests Tigers has today re-signed several of the Club’s outstanding young players.

Centre Tim Simona, winger Marika Koroibete, rising Holden Cup players Kyle Lovett and Nathan Brown, and talented SG Ball player Matthew Woods have agreed to new deals with the Club for 2014 and beyond.

Off contract at the end of this year, Simona has signed for a further two seasons to remain at Wests Tigers until the end of the 2015 season.

Fijian winger Marika Koroibete has signed on for 2014 after the Club took up an option on his services. Koroibete’s electrifying speed and ability to find the tryline has quickly made him a favourite amongst Wests Tigers fans.

In other recruitment news, Wests Tigers have also signed former Newcastle Knights and Bradford Bulls centre Keith Lulia to a two year deal from 2014.

“Keith recently expressed a desire to return home for family reasons and comes to Wests Tigers for the opportunity to play in the NRL again,’’ Potter said.

“At 26, Keith will add experience and depth to a squad that has a heavy focus on youth.”

Keith has been highly sought after from other NRL Clubs, and the Wests Tigers are delighted to give him an opportunity in the NRL once again.

Read more at WestsTigers.com.au
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@sunshine coast tiger said:
@innsaneink said:
I think that already is the case

I don't think it is. The NRL have to agree to the figure given in the Salary Cap but it doesn't have to be at the amount his former club said they would pay to keep him.

The NRL refused to register Izzy to the EELS as the figure was to low and it took a long time to come up with the number in the cap for SBW.

The salary cap in an ideal world would be totally transparent and have the figures placed on a player set by the NRL. Whilst that wouldn't stop the Roosters for getting James Tedesco it may mean he goes into their cap at a far greater figure than they hoped. It also doesn't limit the amount of TPA a player can get, it does however most likely mean for them to get him they would have to shed additional players to fit him in the salary cap at the level the NRL decides he is valued at. Again this would help even out the competition. If to get Tedesco the roosters had to let for example Moga and Hastings go it will make for a better NRL.

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I haven't seen or heard any media this weekend however was just listening to triple m and they were talking like its a foregone conclusion that he has signed with the roosters.

I dont get it if true, even on Friday night the roosters were using RTS at fullback in parts of the game, the guy they've groomed to replace minichello for years

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