Tevita Pangai Junior

To be honest the process seems a bit ridiculous, but we're relying on second or third hand info, so who knows. But if we really did go in for him, publicly pull out, and then desperately went back in, then it's probably no surprise that he chose another offer.

But either way, it's a good outcome. Paying that sort of money for someone like him is not a smart move IMO. Not really sure as to what the Dogs are doing - they are just signing people without any rhyme or reason by the look of it.

We really need a top line right edge forward, so hopefully someone appears on the market at some stage, or Blore finally gets an injury free run.
 
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421895) said:
@mike said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421841) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421829) said:
Regardless of anything else TPJ is a player we identified as one we wanted, publicly courted him and ultimately missed out on to the wooden spooners.

It’s another embarrassment for the club to go on top of a growing pile of them.

I don’t think it is an embarrassment at all. We put a value on TPJ of what he was worth to the club and that’s what we offered. Another club thought he was worth more and made their offer and so he went there instead.

I for one am glad we are no longer paying overs just to get someone. Instead we place a value on their worth to the club and that’s what we offer. The player either accepts that offer or goes elsewhere. I am very happy with that process.

You missed the part where we publicly pulled out of the race to sign him and then later made contact again with his agent to renew our interest only to have him turn us down flat for the wooden spooners offering the same money.

If you don’t think thats embarrassing for the club then we’ll agree to differ.

For me shambolic doesn’t even cover it.

I wouldn’t believe anything that written about the Tigers. Clear agenda out there against the club.
 
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421894) said:
@tyga said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421892) said:
Players keep saving the Tigers from themselves. 750k for 3 years is massive money for Pangai. It’s a big gamble we can’t afford to take. He’s a physical freak but suspensions and attitude I’m staggered at the dogs contract. Hope he does well at the Dogs I’m happy for any battling team to get better but fmd that’s insane.

He might do well for the dogs but they won't

Not without a 9 and a decent fullback

Stupidity roster management

I reckon they will get the Cheese also for next season. You heard it hear first.
 
@spud_murphy said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421930) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421894) said:
@tyga said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421892) said:
Players keep saving the Tigers from themselves. 750k for 3 years is massive money for Pangai. It’s a big gamble we can’t afford to take. He’s a physical freak but suspensions and attitude I’m staggered at the dogs contract. Hope he does well at the Dogs I’m happy for any battling team to get better but fmd that’s insane.

He might do well for the dogs but they won't

Not without a 9 and a decent fullback

Stupidity roster management

I reckon they will get the Cheese also for next season. You heard it hear first.

That'd be a gun squad.

Sucks they'd be playing for zero points for cheating the cap though.

???
 
@tyga said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421920) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421895) said:
@mike said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421841) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421829) said:
Regardless of anything else TPJ is a player we identified as one we wanted, publicly courted him and ultimately missed out on to the wooden spooners.

It’s another embarrassment for the club to go on top of a growing pile of them.

I don’t think it is an embarrassment at all. We put a value on TPJ of what he was worth to the club and that’s what we offered. Another club thought he was worth more and made their offer and so he went there instead.

I for one am glad we are no longer paying overs just to get someone. Instead we place a value on their worth to the club and that’s what we offer. The player either accepts that offer or goes elsewhere. I am very happy with that process.

You missed the part where we publicly pulled out of the race to sign him and then later made contact again with his agent to renew our interest only to have him turn us down flat for the wooden spooners offering the same money.

If you don’t think thats embarrassing for the club then we’ll agree to differ.

For me shambolic doesn’t even cover it.

I wouldn’t believe anything that written about the Tigers. Clear agenda out there against the club.

This is true but a lot of this stuff was played out in public, just like Latrell and JAC and that’s why it looks so bad for the club.
 
@willow said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421708) said:
Wests Tigers captain James Tamou vows not to be distracted by trade rumours

Matthew Sullivan
JULY 20, 20215:46PM

Wests Tigers captain James Tamou has brushed off trade rumours as his side looks to make a late-season push for the finals.

The Tigers were in the running to recruit Brisbane Broncos star Tevita Pangai Junior but were dealt a major blow when it was confirmed he had instead decided to sign with the Canterbury Bulldogs on a three-year deal worth more than $2 million.

Watch The 2021 NRL Telstra Premiership Live & On-Demand on Kayo. New to Kayo? Try 14-Days Free Now >

Tamou said it was disappointing to miss out on Pangai Jnr’s signature.

“I was well documented in saying how much a great signing it would be for the club and for the young club that we have and for his short time in the game,” he told news.com.au.

“He’s a bit of a game-changer Tevita Pangai Jnr and it’s unfortunate that these things happen and that if he does go to another club. He’ll definitely be valuable to whichever side he goes.

“I wish him all the best. I know he’ll do great at the Bulldogs under Trent Barrett. I can imagine he’s going to use him attacking-wise how Trent Barrett used Viliame Kikau last year so that’s a bit scary to go up against.

“But you can’t hold everything on one signing there, so I wish him all the best and if that’s the case, we’ve got to look onto something else in the recruitment drive.”

Tamou said his side won’t be distracted by trade rumours surrounding the team, including whispers Tigers halfback Luke Brooks has been linked to the Canberra Raiders and Cronulla Sharks.

“The way the Tigers are in the media a lot, it just shows people in the public like to keep an eye on the Tigers, that’s all,” Tamou said,

“For that to come out, we can’t really see it as a distraction because of our goals we’ve got in the next seven games coming up. We’ve obviously got some must-win games.”

“We’ll put that in the back seat, we’ll let all that happen in the background because at the moment we can’t really afford to put too much energy in things like that.”

The Tigers skipper also opened up on David Nofoaluma’s decision to stand himself down from the leadership group.

The winger — who became the Tigers’ all-time leading try scorer in Saturday’s 42-24 win over the Broncos — was too hungover to train the morning after attending the wedding of chairman Lee Hagipantelis’ daughter earlier this year.

“I was pretty impressed,” Tamou said.

“Obviously we all make mistakes and we can’t always get it right but for him to take it upon himself to address us and address the team to stand himself down from the leadership group says a lot about himself.

“It says a lot to the young ones coming through that we’re not really going to tolerate it.

“He knew he made a mistake and he knew he had to do these sorts of things.

“I think he got a lot more respect back for that and I think it might have been a good thing for David because the last couple of weeks he’s been playing unreal.

“Just for him to really concentrate on himself not only on the field but off the field, that can only help us.”

The Tigers moved to 12th on the NRL ladder after defeating the Broncos and are now only win outside the top eight.

His side will face a tough test when they play sixth-placed Manly on Saturday.

“I think it’s really come down to that point of nearly ‘do or die’ every game,” Tamou said.

“We’ve made it hard for ourselves to get to this point, but a good win on the weekend only helps our confidence and our belief.

“Tough one against Manly next up but we’ll take that old cliche, we’ll take it one day at a time.”

Tamou is in his first year at the Tigers and believes the team isn’t too different from the young Penrith Panthers side that struggled in 2019 before rising up the ladder last year.

“Believe it or not, there’s a lot of similarities between this side and the Panthers side in 2019,” he said.

“Obviously 2020 was a great year playing in the grand final and a lot of players playing out of their skin and going on to play Origin. But 2019 we weren’t that great. I don’t want to remember where we finished — 12th or 13th.

“There are a lot of similarities from this year and that year. As in, I know we’ve got the quality players that we need, it’s just about putting it all together and going forward with it.

“In 2019, we lost five or six games in a row, we got booed, and we had great quality players in that side. Again, it’s the same here at the Tigers and there’s a lot of growth.

“I can see the quality players that we have and even the young ones and the rookies coming through. It’s a very special club and I’m really looking forward to this next part of the year and next year.”

The Tigers’ turbulent season has been captured in a four-part documentary series called Wild Wests: Tales from Tiger Town, which is available to watch on Fox Sports and Kayo.

The first episode aired on Monday night, featuring emotional scenes of coach Michael Maguire tearing up in the change rooms.

“Kayo and Fox Sports did a remarkable job,” Tamou said.

“They were very incognito about everything and we hardly even noticed them.

“For them to get that close and personal on things, I think it’s a great way and a great concept for the fans to have a look at what goes on behind the scenes.”

Bugger. When I read the first two sentences I got my hopes up we were shopping Tamou around too
 
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421935) said:
@tyga said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421920) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421895) said:
@mike said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421841) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421829) said:
Regardless of anything else TPJ is a player we identified as one we wanted, publicly courted him and ultimately missed out on to the wooden spooners.

It’s another embarrassment for the club to go on top of a growing pile of them.

I don’t think it is an embarrassment at all. We put a value on TPJ of what he was worth to the club and that’s what we offered. Another club thought he was worth more and made their offer and so he went there instead.

I for one am glad we are no longer paying overs just to get someone. Instead we place a value on their worth to the club and that’s what we offer. The player either accepts that offer or goes elsewhere. I am very happy with that process.

You missed the part where we publicly pulled out of the race to sign him and then later made contact again with his agent to renew our interest only to have him turn us down flat for the wooden spooners offering the same money.

If you don’t think thats embarrassing for the club then we’ll agree to differ.

For me shambolic doesn’t even cover it.

I wouldn’t believe anything that written about the Tigers. Clear agenda out there against the club.

This is true but a lot of this stuff was played out in public, just like Latrell and JAC and that’s why it looks so bad for the club.

That's the issue isn't it - we have repeatedly done this stuff out in the open for no reason. As a result the media coverage and speculation jumps up another gear, and the fan expectation is raised as well. Thus the letdown is all the more heartfelt in turn.

To be fair though, TPJ is a world away from the Foxx and Latrell in terms of quality and importance. It's just followed the sadly familiar path.
 
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421895) said:
@mike said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421841) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421829) said:
Regardless of anything else TPJ is a player we identified as one we wanted, publicly courted him and ultimately missed out on to the wooden spooners.

It’s another embarrassment for the club to go on top of a growing pile of them.

I don’t think it is an embarrassment at all. We put a value on TPJ of what he was worth to the club and that’s what we offered. Another club thought he was worth more and made their offer and so he went there instead.

I for one am glad we are no longer paying overs just to get someone. Instead we place a value on their worth to the club and that’s what we offer. The player either accepts that offer or goes elsewhere. I am very happy with that process.

You missed the part where we publicly pulled out of the race to sign him and then later made contact again with his agent to renew our interest only to have him turn us down flat for the wooden spooners offering the same money.

If you don’t think thats embarrassing for the club then we’ll agree to differ.

For me shambolic doesn’t even cover it.

Don't actually know any of that to be true. Too many folks listen to the papers like gospel.

Lee at one point said something along the lines of "move in another direction". Didn't say anything unequivocal about ceasing all negotiations or re-starting. That was paper talk only.

I welcome anyone to produce a direct quote from the that confirms anything else about negotiations with TPJ.
 
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421935) said:
@tyga said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421920) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421895) said:
@mike said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421841) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421829) said:
Regardless of anything else TPJ is a player we identified as one we wanted, publicly courted him and ultimately missed out on to the wooden spooners.

It’s another embarrassment for the club to go on top of a growing pile of them.

I don’t think it is an embarrassment at all. We put a value on TPJ of what he was worth to the club and that’s what we offered. Another club thought he was worth more and made their offer and so he went there instead.

I for one am glad we are no longer paying overs just to get someone. Instead we place a value on their worth to the club and that’s what we offer. The player either accepts that offer or goes elsewhere. I am very happy with that process.

You missed the part where we publicly pulled out of the race to sign him and then later made contact again with his agent to renew our interest only to have him turn us down flat for the wooden spooners offering the same money.

If you don’t think thats embarrassing for the club then we’ll agree to differ.

For me shambolic doesn’t even cover it.

I wouldn’t believe anything that written about the Tigers. Clear agenda out there against the club.

This is true but a lot of this stuff was played out in public, just like Latrell and JAC and that’s why it looks so bad for the club.

I don't know what your expectation is - almost all significant signings are played out in the media, especially if there is more than one suitor.

Even just now - everyone has ready plenty about the potential contract destinations of TPJ, about Dufty, Finucane, Cheese, Vaughan, Milford, Matt Lodge etc. It's the player managers putting the stories in the press to drum up interest and noise for their client.

If the club says "yeah we are interested", that's usually the end of it.
 
@garryowen said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421960) said:
That’s the issue isn’t it - we have repeatedly done this stuff out in the open for no reason. As a result the media coverage and speculation jumps up another gear, and the fan expectation is raised as well. Thus the letdown is all the more heartfelt in turn.

The player managers put it out in the media. Clubs don't do it on purpose, none of them do. All clubs would keep it perfectly quiet if they could, but player managers use the media to try and manipulate dealings with clubs, put pressure on clubs.
 
@getagrip said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421942) said:
@willow said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421708) said:
Wests Tigers captain James Tamou vows not to be distracted by trade rumours

Matthew Sullivan
JULY 20, 20215:46PM

Wests Tigers captain James Tamou has brushed off trade rumours as his side looks to make a late-season push for the finals.

The Tigers were in the running to recruit Brisbane Broncos star Tevita Pangai Junior but were dealt a major blow when it was confirmed he had instead decided to sign with the Canterbury Bulldogs on a three-year deal worth more than $2 million.

Watch The 2021 NRL Telstra Premiership Live & On-Demand on Kayo. New to Kayo? Try 14-Days Free Now >

Tamou said it was disappointing to miss out on Pangai Jnr’s signature.

“I was well documented in saying how much a great signing it would be for the club and for the young club that we have and for his short time in the game,” he told news.com.au.

“He’s a bit of a game-changer Tevita Pangai Jnr and it’s unfortunate that these things happen and that if he does go to another club. He’ll definitely be valuable to whichever side he goes.

“I wish him all the best. I know he’ll do great at the Bulldogs under Trent Barrett. I can imagine he’s going to use him attacking-wise how Trent Barrett used Viliame Kikau last year so that’s a bit scary to go up against.

“But you can’t hold everything on one signing there, so I wish him all the best and if that’s the case, we’ve got to look onto something else in the recruitment drive.”

Tamou said his side won’t be distracted by trade rumours surrounding the team, including whispers Tigers halfback Luke Brooks has been linked to the Canberra Raiders and Cronulla Sharks.

“The way the Tigers are in the media a lot, it just shows people in the public like to keep an eye on the Tigers, that’s all,” Tamou said,

“For that to come out, we can’t really see it as a distraction because of our goals we’ve got in the next seven games coming up. We’ve obviously got some must-win games.”

“We’ll put that in the back seat, we’ll let all that happen in the background because at the moment we can’t really afford to put too much energy in things like that.”

The Tigers skipper also opened up on David Nofoaluma’s decision to stand himself down from the leadership group.

The winger — who became the Tigers’ all-time leading try scorer in Saturday’s 42-24 win over the Broncos — was too hungover to train the morning after attending the wedding of chairman Lee Hagipantelis’ daughter earlier this year.

“I was pretty impressed,” Tamou said.

“Obviously we all make mistakes and we can’t always get it right but for him to take it upon himself to address us and address the team to stand himself down from the leadership group says a lot about himself.

“It says a lot to the young ones coming through that we’re not really going to tolerate it.

“He knew he made a mistake and he knew he had to do these sorts of things.

“I think he got a lot more respect back for that and I think it might have been a good thing for David because the last couple of weeks he’s been playing unreal.

“Just for him to really concentrate on himself not only on the field but off the field, that can only help us.”

The Tigers moved to 12th on the NRL ladder after defeating the Broncos and are now only win outside the top eight.

His side will face a tough test when they play sixth-placed Manly on Saturday.

“I think it’s really come down to that point of nearly ‘do or die’ every game,” Tamou said.

“We’ve made it hard for ourselves to get to this point, but a good win on the weekend only helps our confidence and our belief.

“Tough one against Manly next up but we’ll take that old cliche, we’ll take it one day at a time.”

Tamou is in his first year at the Tigers and believes the team isn’t too different from the young Penrith Panthers side that struggled in 2019 before rising up the ladder last year.

“Believe it or not, there’s a lot of similarities between this side and the Panthers side in 2019,” he said.

“Obviously 2020 was a great year playing in the grand final and a lot of players playing out of their skin and going on to play Origin. But 2019 we weren’t that great. I don’t want to remember where we finished — 12th or 13th.

“There are a lot of similarities from this year and that year. As in, I know we’ve got the quality players that we need, it’s just about putting it all together and going forward with it.

“In 2019, we lost five or six games in a row, we got booed, and we had great quality players in that side. Again, it’s the same here at the Tigers and there’s a lot of growth.

“I can see the quality players that we have and even the young ones and the rookies coming through. It’s a very special club and I’m really looking forward to this next part of the year and next year.”

The Tigers’ turbulent season has been captured in a four-part documentary series called Wild Wests: Tales from Tiger Town, which is available to watch on Fox Sports and Kayo.

The first episode aired on Monday night, featuring emotional scenes of coach Michael Maguire tearing up in the change rooms.

“Kayo and Fox Sports did a remarkable job,” Tamou said.

“They were very incognito about everything and we hardly even noticed them.

“For them to get that close and personal on things, I think it’s a great way and a great concept for the fans to have a look at what goes on behind the scenes.”

Bugger. When I read the first two sentences I got my hopes up we were shopping Tamou around too

We called Newcastle and asked for Saifiti in return ?
 
@jirskyr said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421964) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421895) said:
@mike said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421841) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421829) said:
Regardless of anything else TPJ is a player we identified as one we wanted, publicly courted him and ultimately missed out on to the wooden spooners.

It’s another embarrassment for the club to go on top of a growing pile of them.

I don’t think it is an embarrassment at all. We put a value on TPJ of what he was worth to the club and that’s what we offered. Another club thought he was worth more and made their offer and so he went there instead.

I for one am glad we are no longer paying overs just to get someone. Instead we place a value on their worth to the club and that’s what we offer. The player either accepts that offer or goes elsewhere. I am very happy with that process.

You missed the part where we publicly pulled out of the race to sign him and then later made contact again with his agent to renew our interest only to have him turn us down flat for the wooden spooners offering the same money.

If you don’t think thats embarrassing for the club then we’ll agree to differ.

For me shambolic doesn’t even cover it.

Don't actually know any of that to be true. Too many folks listen to the papers like gospel.

Lee at one point said something along the lines of "move in another direction". Didn't say anything unequivocal about ceasing all negotiations or re-starting. That was paper talk only.

I welcome anyone to produce a direct quote from the that confirms anything else about negotiations with TPJ.

i can't post the interview from the SEN website
The SEN interview with Andrew Voss on 7 July he mentions
there were discussions with respect to provisions of a contract.

“But there was no formal offer put on the table.”
 
@jirskyr said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421965) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421935) said:
@tyga said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421920) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421895) said:
@mike said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421841) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421829) said:
Regardless of anything else TPJ is a player we identified as one we wanted, publicly courted him and ultimately missed out on to the wooden spooners.

It’s another embarrassment for the club to go on top of a growing pile of them.

I don’t think it is an embarrassment at all. We put a value on TPJ of what he was worth to the club and that’s what we offered. Another club thought he was worth more and made their offer and so he went there instead.

I for one am glad we are no longer paying overs just to get someone. Instead we place a value on their worth to the club and that’s what we offer. The player either accepts that offer or goes elsewhere. I am very happy with that process.

You missed the part where we publicly pulled out of the race to sign him and then later made contact again with his agent to renew our interest only to have him turn us down flat for the wooden spooners offering the same money.

If you don’t think thats embarrassing for the club then we’ll agree to differ.

For me shambolic doesn’t even cover it.

I wouldn’t believe anything that written about the Tigers. Clear agenda out there against the club.

This is true but a lot of this stuff was played out in public, just like Latrell and JAC and that’s why it looks so bad for the club.

I don't know what your expectation is - almost all significant signings at are played out in the media, especially if there is more than one suitor.

Even just now - everyone has ready plenty about the potential contract destinations of TPJ, about Dufty, Finucane, Cheese, Vaughan, Milford, Matt Lodge etc. It's the player managers putting the stories in the press to drum up interest and noise for their client.

If the club says "yeah we are interested", that's usually the end of it.

In all those cases though club officials refrain from commenting publicly at least until the deal is more or less done.

Our club officials on the other hand, particularly our chairman and his hat, are more than happy to be a rent a quote for the media. He did this for Latrell and JAC and three of our club officials were happy to be photographed flying up to Brisbane to talk to TPJ.

I hundred percent agree that we have very few friends in the media but we don’t half make it easy for them.
 
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421975) said:
@jirskyr said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421965) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421935) said:
@tyga said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421920) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421895) said:
@mike said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421841) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421829) said:
Regardless of anything else TPJ is a player we identified as one we wanted, publicly courted him and ultimately missed out on to the wooden spooners.

It’s another embarrassment for the club to go on top of a growing pile of them.

I don’t think it is an embarrassment at all. We put a value on TPJ of what he was worth to the club and that’s what we offered. Another club thought he was worth more and made their offer and so he went there instead.

I for one am glad we are no longer paying overs just to get someone. Instead we place a value on their worth to the club and that’s what we offer. The player either accepts that offer or goes elsewhere. I am very happy with that process.

You missed the part where we publicly pulled out of the race to sign him and then later made contact again with his agent to renew our interest only to have him turn us down flat for the wooden spooners offering the same money.

If you don’t think thats embarrassing for the club then we’ll agree to differ.

For me shambolic doesn’t even cover it.

I wouldn’t believe anything that written about the Tigers. Clear agenda out there against the club.

This is true but a lot of this stuff was played out in public, just like Latrell and JAC and that’s why it looks so bad for the club.

I don't know what your expectation is - almost all significant signings at are played out in the media, especially if there is more than one suitor.

Even just now - everyone has ready plenty about the potential contract destinations of TPJ, about Dufty, Finucane, Cheese, Vaughan, Milford, Matt Lodge etc. It's the player managers putting the stories in the press to drum up interest and noise for their client.

If the club says "yeah we are interested", that's usually the end of it.

In all those cases though club officials refrain from commenting publicly at least until the deal is more or less done.

Our club officials on the other hand, particularly our chairman and his hat, are more than happy to be a rent a quote for the media. He did this for Latrell and JAC and three of our club officials were happy to be photographed flying up to Brisbane to talk to TPJ.

I hundred percent agree that we have very few friends in the media but we don’t half make it easy for them.

Nobody was photographed flying up to Brisbane, I don't believe? They were spotted that's all.
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421974) said:
@jirskyr said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421964) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421895) said:
@mike said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421841) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421829) said:
Regardless of anything else TPJ is a player we identified as one we wanted, publicly courted him and ultimately missed out on to the wooden spooners.

It’s another embarrassment for the club to go on top of a growing pile of them.

I don’t think it is an embarrassment at all. We put a value on TPJ of what he was worth to the club and that’s what we offered. Another club thought he was worth more and made their offer and so he went there instead.

I for one am glad we are no longer paying overs just to get someone. Instead we place a value on their worth to the club and that’s what we offer. The player either accepts that offer or goes elsewhere. I am very happy with that process.

You missed the part where we publicly pulled out of the race to sign him and then later made contact again with his agent to renew our interest only to have him turn us down flat for the wooden spooners offering the same money.

If you don’t think thats embarrassing for the club then we’ll agree to differ.

For me shambolic doesn’t even cover it.

Don't actually know any of that to be true. Too many folks listen to the papers like gospel.

Lee at one point said something along the lines of "move in another direction". Didn't say anything unequivocal about ceasing all negotiations or re-starting. That was paper talk only.

I welcome anyone to produce a direct quote from the that confirms anything else about negotiations with TPJ.

i can't post the interview from the SEN website
The SEN interview with Andrew Voss on 7 July he mentions
there were discussions with respect to provisions of a contract.

“But there was no formal offer put on the table.”

So we "moved in another direction" and "no formal offer was put on the table". Is that the sum total of public Tigers commentary about TPJ?
 
@jirskyr said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421997) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421974) said:
@jirskyr said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421964) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421895) said:
@mike said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421841) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421829) said:
Regardless of anything else TPJ is a player we identified as one we wanted, publicly courted him and ultimately missed out on to the wooden spooners.

It’s another embarrassment for the club to go on top of a growing pile of them.

I don’t think it is an embarrassment at all. We put a value on TPJ of what he was worth to the club and that’s what we offered. Another club thought he was worth more and made their offer and so he went there instead.

I for one am glad we are no longer paying overs just to get someone. Instead we place a value on their worth to the club and that’s what we offer. The player either accepts that offer or goes elsewhere. I am very happy with that process.

You missed the part where we publicly pulled out of the race to sign him and then later made contact again with his agent to renew our interest only to have him turn us down flat for the wooden spooners offering the same money.

If you don’t think thats embarrassing for the club then we’ll agree to differ.

For me shambolic doesn’t even cover it.

Don't actually know any of that to be true. Too many folks listen to the papers like gospel.

Lee at one point said something along the lines of "move in another direction". Didn't say anything unequivocal about ceasing all negotiations or re-starting. That was paper talk only.

I welcome anyone to produce a direct quote from the that confirms anything else about negotiations with TPJ.

i can't post the interview from the SEN website
The SEN interview with Andrew Voss on 7 July he mentions
there were discussions with respect to provisions of a contract.

“But there was no formal offer put on the table.”

So we "moved in another direction" and "no formal offer was put on the table". Is that the sum total of public Tigers commentary about TPJ?

so we moved in another direction then a week later we make him another offer, we look like amateur hour
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1422000) said:
@jirskyr said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421997) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421974) said:
@jirskyr said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421964) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421895) said:
@mike said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421841) said:
@celtic_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1421829) said:
Regardless of anything else TPJ is a player we identified as one we wanted, publicly courted him and ultimately missed out on to the wooden spooners.

It’s another embarrassment for the club to go on top of a growing pile of them.

I don’t think it is an embarrassment at all. We put a value on TPJ of what he was worth to the club and that’s what we offered. Another club thought he was worth more and made their offer and so he went there instead.

I for one am glad we are no longer paying overs just to get someone. Instead we place a value on their worth to the club and that’s what we offer. The player either accepts that offer or goes elsewhere. I am very happy with that process.

You missed the part where we publicly pulled out of the race to sign him and then later made contact again with his agent to renew our interest only to have him turn us down flat for the wooden spooners offering the same money.

If you don’t think thats embarrassing for the club then we’ll agree to differ.

For me shambolic doesn’t even cover it.

Don't actually know any of that to be true. Too many folks listen to the papers like gospel.

Lee at one point said something along the lines of "move in another direction". Didn't say anything unequivocal about ceasing all negotiations or re-starting. That was paper talk only.

I welcome anyone to produce a direct quote from the that confirms anything else about negotiations with TPJ.

i can't post the interview from the SEN website
The SEN interview with Andrew Voss on 7 July he mentions
there were discussions with respect to provisions of a contract.

“But there was no formal offer put on the table.”

So we "moved in another direction" and "no formal offer was put on the table". Is that the sum total of public Tigers commentary about TPJ?

so we moved in another direction then a week later we make him another offer, we look like amateur hour

No no no... where is the confirmation from the club that we made him another offer? I am being told this was all apparently played out in public, I want the combined might of the WT Forum to post everything the Tigers said on record about the TPJ discussions.
 
I felt we needed TPJ as a vote of confidence in the Club so naturally Im a little down.

I think at 750K per season u would want a player like Adam D who is there every single game.

Onwards Tigers fans
 
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