Tevita Pangai Junior

@jirskyr said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401247) said:
@jc99 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401148) said:
Lodge being released might actually hurt our chances of getting TPJ - they weren't able to register Capewells contract until they released a player from their deal next year and that was lodge, now they have no real reason to release Pangai (although knowing Kevvy it could easily still happen)

The reason to release Pangai is not to continue paying someone you don't want in 2020.

Agree ...it's to make more attractive to grab NOW and create manouvreability in the cap for 2022 ....like us with Mbye
 
@swag_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401252) said:
So if @iofthetigers news is true we can finish this thread here.


I think @iofthetigers was talking about Angus Crichton
 
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401259) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401252) said:
So if @iofthetigers news is true we can finish this thread here.


I think @iofthetigers was talking about Angus Crichton

That's what I said.
He wasn't though...

Haha.
 
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401262) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401259) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401252) said:
So if @iofthetigers news is true we can finish this thread here.


I think @iofthetigers was talking about Angus Crichton

That's what I said.
He wasn't though...

Haha.


What makes you so sure?
 
@geo said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401235) said:
@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401224) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401214) said:
@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401202) said:
@wt2k said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401169) said:
@jc99 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401167) said:
Pete Badel just reported this:

It is understood the Tigers were ready to table a two-and-a-half year deal for an immediate transfer, but Pangai Jnr’s asking price, said to be in excess of $700,000 a season, shapes as an impediment.

Also saying dragons could be keen on him

Brent Read saying he thinks we've gone cold on signing tpj.

Can listen here. It's the 6min version towards 4 min mark https://www.triplem.com.au/story/brent-read-s-huge-update-on-gareth-widdop-s-return-to-the-nrl-177466

We all know what will happen and we will miss out on both TPJ and Funicane ***because the decision makers at our rubble of a club cannot agree on something..*** FFS someone needs to take charge and make a decision because our marquee signings will be Joey L and Packer extending their stay the way we are going.. Listening to that it sounds like we are low balling players and hoping they have no choice but to come here.

How do you know that to be true? Who thinks what? What decision needs to be made?

It was the POM that mentioned yesterday that there were some that wanted Funicane and some that didn't. Some that wanted TPJ and some didn't ...
Players and there management won't hang around while our Management mull over who they want. If another teams comes in and agrees to there terms we miss out.. Simple as that. I would stick up more for the club and recruitment team if we actually signed a quality player but the proof is in the puddling as they say.
I will also give credit where it is due and they have done an excellent job at buying younger talent and I have said that for the last 12 months.

I want the Club questioning 4 year deals for Funicane and paying a large chunk for Pangai Jnr ..shows to me they are not prepared to roll over and panic like previous management have done...

We can run out with average footballers year on year
 
Oh man this sucks we really should be used to this it’s happened about 20 times we just get used as bargaining chip
 
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401264) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401262) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401259) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401252) said:
So if @iofthetigers news is true we can finish this thread here.


I think @iofthetigers was talking about Angus Crichton

That's what I said.
He wasn't though...

Haha.


What makes you so sure?

Oh man, I am so confused.
I just sussed.

He was talking about Criton. @swag_tiger

Been a big week.
Brain not working good.
 
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401268) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401264) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401262) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401259) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401252) said:
So if @iofthetigers news is true we can finish this thread here.


I think @iofthetigers was talking about Angus Crichton

That's what I said.
He wasn't though...

Haha.


What makes you so sure?

Oh man, I am so confused.
I just sussed.

He was talking about Criton. @swag_tiger

Been a big week.
Brain not working good.


Definitely Crichton, unless @iofthetigers corrects me.
 
@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401202) said:
@wt2k said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401169) said:
@jc99 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401167) said:
Pete Badel just reported this:

It is understood the Tigers were ready to table a two-and-a-half year deal for an immediate transfer, but Pangai Jnr’s asking price, said to be in excess of $700,000 a season, shapes as an impediment.

Also saying dragons could be keen on him

Brent Read saying he thinks we've gone cold on signing tpj.

Can listen here. It's the 6min version towards 4 min mark https://www.triplem.com.au/story/brent-read-s-huge-update-on-gareth-widdop-s-return-to-the-nrl-177466

We all know what will happen and we will miss out on both TPJ and Funicane because the decision makers at our rubble of a club cannot agree on something.. FFS someone needs to take charge and make a decision because our marquee signings will be Joey L and Packer extending their stay the way we are going.. Listening to that it sounds like we are low balling players and hoping they have no choice but to come here.

Will you quit your pissing and moaning over recruitment speculation. You have the patience of a 5 year old.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401270) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401268) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401264) said:
@demps said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401262) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401259) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401252) said:
So if @iofthetigers news is true we can finish this thread here.


I think @iofthetigers was talking about Angus Crichton

That's what I said.
He wasn't though...

Haha.


What makes you so sure?

Oh man, I am so confused.
I just sussed.

He was talking about Criton. @swag_tiger

Been a big week.
Brain not working good.


Definitely Crichton, unless @iofthetigers corrects me.

Reads that way.
@swag_tiger gaslighted me.

Announced after Oriign.
Angus is involved in Origin.

Makes sense now.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401220) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401215) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401214) said:
@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401202) said:
@wt2k said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401169) said:
@jc99 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401167) said:
Pete Badel just reported this:

It is understood the Tigers were ready to table a two-and-a-half year deal for an immediate transfer, but Pangai Jnr’s asking price, said to be in excess of $700,000 a season, shapes as an impediment.

Also saying dragons could be keen on him

Brent Read saying he thinks we've gone cold on signing tpj.

Can listen here. It's the 6min version towards 4 min mark https://www.triplem.com.au/story/brent-read-s-huge-update-on-gareth-widdop-s-return-to-the-nrl-177466

We all know what will happen and we will miss out on both TPJ and Funicane ***because the decision makers at our rubble of a club cannot agree on something..*** FFS someone needs to take charge and make a decision because our marquee signings will be Joey L and Packer extending their stay the way we are going.. Listening to that it sounds like we are low balling players and hoping they have no choice but to come here.

How do you know that to be true? Who thinks what? What decision needs to be made?

Recruitment has been terrible


That may or may not be true (I think recent singings have been pretty good), but @hsvjones said that the reason these guys arent coming is because "decision makers" cant make up their mind.

I'd like to know who he means and how he knows they cant make up their mind.

He doesn't have any idea at all, he is just extraordinarily reactive to media speculation about recruitment.

If I was to report tomorrow that Tigers were interested in signing Anthony Milford, Jonesy would be asking on Monday how come we haven't closed the deal yet.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401236) said:
@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401224) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401214) said:
@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401202) said:
@wt2k said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401169) said:
@jc99 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401167) said:
Pete Badel just reported this:

It is understood the Tigers were ready to table a two-and-a-half year deal for an immediate transfer, but Pangai Jnr’s asking price, said to be in excess of $700,000 a season, shapes as an impediment.

Also saying dragons could be keen on him

Brent Read saying he thinks we've gone cold on signing tpj.

Can listen here. It's the 6min version towards 4 min mark https://www.triplem.com.au/story/brent-read-s-huge-update-on-gareth-widdop-s-return-to-the-nrl-177466

We all know what will happen and we will miss out on both TPJ and Funicane ***because the decision makers at our rubble of a club cannot agree on something..*** FFS someone needs to take charge and make a decision because our marquee signings will be Joey L and Packer extending their stay the way we are going.. Listening to that it sounds like we are low balling players and hoping they have no choice but to come here.

How do you know that to be true? Who thinks what? What decision needs to be made?

It was the POM that mentioned yesterday that there were some that wanted Funicane and some that didn't. Some that wanted TPJ and some didn't ...

No he didnt. He said they were divided about Finucane but not TPJ.

If you are using The Pom as your source to build a narrative that the club is crippled by indecision, it doesnt sit well with the Pom saying that we have tabled a formal offer for TPJ. That would seem reasonably decisive ....no?

I've heard that from few places now and not just what the POM said.
Results speak for themselves and we have not signed a top line player for years with Josh Reynolds / Mbye been the last ones that was even close to an rep player. Could be a lot of reasons for this but we will not know unless we are on the inside.
Are we low balling?
Are they not happy with our roster?
The Facilities ?
The 4 different home grounds?
The Coach?
The Location?

IDK and don't claim to know but something is not right when a Professional Club can not attract top players..

We all want the same thing and thats a quality rosters that puts in every game and makes the finals.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401236) said:
@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401224) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401214) said:
@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401202) said:
@wt2k said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401169) said:
@jc99 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401167) said:
Pete Badel just reported this:

It is understood the Tigers were ready to table a two-and-a-half year deal for an immediate transfer, but Pangai Jnr’s asking price, said to be in excess of $700,000 a season, shapes as an impediment.

Also saying dragons could be keen on him

Brent Read saying he thinks we've gone cold on signing tpj.

Can listen here. It's the 6min version towards 4 min mark https://www.triplem.com.au/story/brent-read-s-huge-update-on-gareth-widdop-s-return-to-the-nrl-177466

We all know what will happen and we will miss out on both TPJ and Funicane ***because the decision makers at our rubble of a club cannot agree on something..*** FFS someone needs to take charge and make a decision because our marquee signings will be Joey L and Packer extending their stay the way we are going.. Listening to that it sounds like we are low balling players and hoping they have no choice but to come here.

How do you know that to be true? Who thinks what? What decision needs to be made?

It was the POM that mentioned yesterday that there were some that wanted Funicane and some that didn't. Some that wanted TPJ and some didn't ...

No he didnt. He said they were divided about Finucane but not TPJ.

If you are using The Pom as your source to build a narrative that the club is crippled by indecision, it doesnt sit well with the Pom saying that we have tabled a formal offer for TPJ. That would seem reasonably decisive ....no?

In fact didn't The Pom originally say it was close to a done deal? I think he said the manager agreed to terms.
 
@tigerballs said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401250) said:
@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401241) said:
@jc99 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401216) said:
Paying overs for inconsistent players is not how you turn a club into being successful

you are 100% correct but you will never win a comp with all juniors in a side because they need the guidance and experience for which we lack.. I personally think we are holding onto the bad decisions of the past E.g Reynolds / Packer and we need to more on. We just need to get the 1st high profile one to start the domino effect but they will not come here for peanuts and I cannot blame them.
As a club we have ample money available and need to take a risk because it doesn't roll over to the next year. I am not saying pay TPJ or Funicane 900k but if we offered Funicane 650k for the 3 years he wants I think he would do wonders to these young guys both on and off the field. Call it an investment into all these young players we brought as they are currently looking up to Packer and Mbye.. let that sink in.

Ask Penrith how they are going with their juniors.

Haven't won a comp yet but they will soon.. They also have some experienced players that help lead the team.
 
@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401275) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401236) said:
@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401224) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401214) said:
@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401202) said:
@wt2k said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401169) said:
@jc99 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401167) said:
Pete Badel just reported this:

It is understood the Tigers were ready to table a two-and-a-half year deal for an immediate transfer, but Pangai Jnr’s asking price, said to be in excess of $700,000 a season, shapes as an impediment.

Also saying dragons could be keen on him

Brent Read saying he thinks we've gone cold on signing tpj.

Can listen here. It's the 6min version towards 4 min mark https://www.triplem.com.au/story/brent-read-s-huge-update-on-gareth-widdop-s-return-to-the-nrl-177466

We all know what will happen and we will miss out on both TPJ and Funicane ***because the decision makers at our rubble of a club cannot agree on something..*** FFS someone needs to take charge and make a decision because our marquee signings will be Joey L and Packer extending their stay the way we are going.. Listening to that it sounds like we are low balling players and hoping they have no choice but to come here.

How do you know that to be true? Who thinks what? What decision needs to be made?

It was the POM that mentioned yesterday that there were some that wanted Funicane and some that didn't. Some that wanted TPJ and some didn't ...

No he didnt. He said they were divided about Finucane but not TPJ.

If you are using The Pom as your source to build a narrative that the club is crippled by indecision, it doesnt sit well with the Pom saying that we have tabled a formal offer for TPJ. That would seem reasonably decisive ....no?

I've heard that from few places now and not just what the POM said.
Results speak for themselves and we have not signed a top line player for years with Josh Reynolds / Mbye been the last ones that was even close to an rep player. Could be a lot of reasons for this but we will not know unless we are on the inside.
Are we low balling?
Are they not happy with our roster?
The Facilities ?
The 4 different home grounds?
The Coach?
The Location?

IDK and don't claim to know but something is not right when a Professional Club can not attract top players..

We all want the same thing and thats a quality rosters that puts in every game and makes the finals.


Im confused....so its NOT because they couldnt make a decision?
 
Can anyone confirm

1. Will sheens be heavily involved in first grade recruitment. My guess would be yes

2. Is warren McDonnell still working for us.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1401282) said:
Can anyone confirm

1. Will sheens be heavily involved in first grade recruitment. My guess would be yes

2. Is warren McDonnell still working for us.


Warren McDonnell is selling real estate.
 
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