Tevita Pangai Junior

[earl]

You develop Tuki Simpkins to be our Pangai Jnr.. you develop Tuilagi to be our Dale Funicane already here .. at a fraction of the cost

That is the route we have no choice in taking …paying overs for names has failed every time…Getting players already in the system playing over their pay grade is the choice they have made…just means we have to wait unfortunately ..

We can't keep waiting another 2-3 years though. We need players who can make an immediate impact while the youngsters are getting used to first grade. And then if they don't make it it's another few years of failure and starting that whole process again.

We don't get to make that choice. Atm it's overpay for plodders or develop them. I choose develop them.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

You develop Tuki Simpkins to be our Pangai Jnr.. you develop Tuilagi to be our Dale Funicane already here .. at a fraction of the cost

That is the route we have no choice in taking …paying overs for names has failed every time…Getting players already in the system playing over their pay grade is the choice they have made…just means we have to wait unfortunately ..

We can't keep waiting another 2-3 years though. We need players who can make an immediate impact while the youngsters are getting used to first grade. And then if they don't make it it's another few years of failure and starting that whole process again.

We don't get to make that choice. Atm it's overpay for plodders or develop them. I choose develop them.

Harsh, but fair.

 

[earl]

It’s not acceptable but it is normal. Surely the time for “wearing thin” was past many many years ago.

I'd like to know what fans are going to do ? Storm the battleground ? Switch off the TV ? I mean you got to put footy into perspective.

 

[earl]

Absolute nonsense to think we had 'doubts' about him at this stage. Everyone knows who he is.

Reality is the Dogs are sitting there with that offer the Pom mentioned and they have snuck in yet again to take one off us whilst we jogged on the spot.

Burton
JAC
TPJ

They invariably get their man, we don't...

Us saying "have doubts, we are out" is saving face. Nothing else.

I agree but I don't care and I don't think any of us should either. If the Dogs keep paying overs it's going to hurt them.

 

[avocadoontoast]

You develop Tuki Simpkins to be our Pangai Jnr.. you develop Tuilagi to be our Dale Funicane already here .. at a fraction of the cost

That is the route we have no choice in taking …paying overs for names has failed every time…Getting players already in the system playing over their pay grade is the choice they have made…just means we have to wait unfortunately ..

Fans have been waiting over a decade. Asking them to wait another 5 years for the administration to sort out the mess they created in the first place is asking too much.

You don't have a choice. That is all sunk cost. Paying over is just asking for another 5+ year rebuild post getting the dodgy contracts off our books.

I never said to pay overs, I said get some people in who can coach and attract talent. At the moment we have neither of those things.

 

[iwasright]

Mod can we close this thread

 

[earl]

You develop Tuki Simpkins to be our Pangai Jnr.. you develop Tuilagi to be our Dale Funicane already here .. at a fraction of the cost

That is the route we have no choice in taking …paying overs for names has failed every time…Getting players already in the system playing over their pay grade is the choice they have made…just means we have to wait unfortunately ..

Fans have been waiting over a decade. Asking them to wait another 5 years for the administration to sort out the mess they created in the first place is asking too much.

You don't have a choice. That is all sunk cost. Paying over is just asking for another 5+ year rebuild post getting the dodgy contracts off our books.

I never said to pay overs, I said get some people in who can coach and attract talent. At the moment we have neither of those things.

I don't think it works that simply. I think the club is handling this right but I'm dead set against any marquee signing that isn't Latrell or Tommy Turbo. We should be going for guys like Reese Walsh or other juniors.

 

[Cairnstigers]

Bulldogs have offered 750k a season to TPJ. TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs and informed his manager to ask both clubs to get closer to the dogs offer. During informal discussions a figure of 600k a season was all but agreed, which is why the club has walked away.

This is a bizarre one by the dogs, considering the money they have tied up in some of their other recruits. JAC is signed on for 600k a season rising to 750k if he plays a certain amount of games at fullback, Naden and Allan on 400k+ and Cotric on 500k. Not to mention they're paying 350k of DWZ contract for next season.

They seem to be getting themselves in a bit of mess with the cap going forward. Heard there is a bit of discord over there as not everyone in the recruiting process has been informed of agreements and dont see eye to eye on targets (TPJ & Johnson). Some seem to be of the view to get any talent over there for any price where a others want to target certain positions and be diligent in how they organise their cap for future years and build the team.

Signing TPJ would all but end their hopes of signing B. Smith. They also have a tricky situation where Burton will be available to negotiate from November 2022 and would be due a hefty pay rise.

I guess the question is TPA's ....they might be able to raise a few .......

Yep...the new bosses there (Landry) have more contacts than the Rorters...

Are they Laundering money at the Dog's
No wonder they are Signing everything that breathes

 

[Cairnstigers]

Mod can we close this thread

No
NO
NOOOOOOOO
what are we to do this weekend if we have nothing to bicker about

 

[BZN]

Absolute nonsense to think we had 'doubts' about him at this stage. Everyone knows who he is.

Reality is the Dogs are sitting there with that offer the Pom mentioned and they have snuck in yet again to take one off us whilst we jogged on the spot.

Burton
JAC
TPJ

They invariably get their man, we don't...

Us saying "have doubts, we are out" is saving face. Nothing else.

I agree but I don't care and I don't think any of us should either. If the Dogs keep paying overs it's going to hurt them.

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[izotope]

Bulldogs have offered 750k a season to TPJ. TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs and informed his manager to ask both clubs to get closer to the dogs offer. During informal discussions a figure of 600k a season was all but agreed, which is why the club has walked away.

This is a bizarre one by the dogs, considering the money they have tied up in some of their other recruits. JAC is signed on for 600k a season rising to 750k if he plays a certain amount of games at fullback, Naden and Allan on 400k+ and Cotric on 500k. Not to mention they're paying 350k of DWZ contract for next season.

They seem to be getting themselves in a bit of mess with the cap going forward. Heard there is a bit of discord over there as not everyone in the recruiting process has been informed of agreements and dont see eye to eye on targets (TPJ & Johnson). Some seem to be of the view to get any talent over there for any price where a others want to target certain positions and be diligent in how they organise their cap for future years and build the team.

Signing TPJ would all but end their hopes of signing B. Smith. They also have a tricky situation where Burton will be available to negotiate from November 2022 and would be due a hefty pay rise.

Yes they got Burton at a bargain rate, I wondered if their was a trigger clause or an out, looks like he has both going on what you are saying

It remains to be seen whether Burton is a bargain at the ~$500,000 a season they reportedly signed him on. He's been pretty sporadic in his performances in the halves.

If you got him for 700 you’re laughing. His performances through 20 FG games have been mint.

Mint in the centres in a stacked panthers team. His performances at 5/8 while Luai/Cleary were out left alot to be desired.

Im sure he will still end up a quality player but if you were the dogs you might be a bit more nervous. Gonna be steering a team with less quality then he has been at the panthers

 

[TheDaBoss]

Mod can we close this thread

Noooooo

Need something to lament back to

Cant shut it until it gets more pages than LM thread

 

[tiger_one]

Paying overs for players is not and never has been good policy but it it is what we have repeatedly done in the past for zero results.Buying TPJ or Finucane at inflated prices will do nothing to change that.Caveat Emptor

Souths did this with Asotasi, it changed the whole perception of the club, and lead to other high profile players joining.
Problem is, we do it with the wrong players, if we had landed Latrell or JAC, others would follow.
Packer, Reynolds and Mbye won't and haven't attracted other players

In that case though.
Asotasi would be like Signing Payne Hass or Nelson Asofa Solomona. Whom I’d happily give overs for.
TPJ is more like signing Willy Mason back then.

Solomon hormoneo

Who could forget:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/vossys-interesting-stuff-former-bulldogs-forward-solomon-haumonos-mum-dashed-onto-the-ground/news-story/e05483718f3beb98498a53b142b0ea8d

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Mod can we close this thread

No, it will die a natural death.

 

[Newtown]

Mod can we close this thread

Noooooo

Need something to lament back to

Cant shut it until it gets more pages than LM thread

Pangai just ain't worth a thread.

 

[sleeve]

Re paying overs, most do it , the secret is the length of contract, and only risk 1 or 2. We can afford it and Pangi is worth it, Time to bite the bullit.

 

[Demps]

Mod can we close this thread

Noooooo

Need something to lament back to

Cant shut it until it gets more pages than LM thread

Pangai just ain't worth a thread.

Can't wait to see the news article.

Tigers sign Pangai....

Southport Tigers have just signed another great name to team up with bad boy / Christian good boy Israel Folau. Moses Pangai... brother of failed Broncos player/ commanchero nom Tevita Pangai Jnr.

 

[hobbo1]

Paying overs for players is not and never has been good policy but it it is what we have repeatedly done in the past for zero results.Buying TPJ or Finucane at inflated prices will do nothing to change that.Caveat Emptor

Souths did this with Asotasi, it changed the whole perception of the club, and lead to other high profile players joining.
Problem is, we do it with the wrong players, if we had landed Latrell or JAC, others would follow.
Packer, Reynolds and Mbye won't and haven't attracted other players

In that case though.
Asotasi would be like Signing Payne Hass or Nelson Asofa Solomona. Whom I’d happily give overs for.
TPJ is more like signing Willy Mason back then.

Solomon hormoneo

He took off with the pleasure machine ?

 

[851]

Bulldogs have offered 750k a season to TPJ. TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs and informed his manager to ask both clubs to get closer to the dogs offer. During informal discussions a figure of 600k a season was all but agreed, which is why the club has walked away.

This is a bizarre one by the dogs, considering the money they have tied up in some of their other recruits. JAC is signed on for 600k a season rising to 750k if he plays a certain amount of games at fullback, Naden and Allan on 400k+ and Cotric on 500k. Not to mention they're paying 350k of DWZ contract for next season.

They seem to be getting themselves in a bit of mess with the cap going forward. Heard there is a bit of discord over there as not everyone in the recruiting process has been informed of agreements and dont see eye to eye on targets (TPJ & Johnson). Some seem to be of the view to get any talent over there for any price where a others want to target certain positions and be diligent in how they organise their cap for future years and build the team.

Signing TPJ would all but end their hopes of signing B. Smith. They also have a tricky situation where Burton will be available to negotiate from November 2022 and would be due a hefty pay rise.

Yes they got Burton at a bargain rate, I wondered if their was a trigger clause or an out, looks like he has both going on what you are saying

It remains to be seen whether Burton is a bargain at the ~$500,000 a season they reportedly signed him on. He's been pretty sporadic in his performances in the halves.

It wasn't that much, it was more like $300k, the $500k was for the latter years in his deal

 

[851]

Bulldogs have offered 750k a season to TPJ. TPJ is said to prefer the Tigers or Dragons over the dogs and informed his manager to ask both clubs to get closer to the dogs offer. During informal discussions a figure of 600k a season was all but agreed, which is why the club has walked away.

This is a bizarre one by the dogs, considering the money they have tied up in some of their other recruits. JAC is signed on for 600k a season rising to 750k if he plays a certain amount of games at fullback, Naden and Allan on 400k+ and Cotric on 500k. Not to mention they're paying 350k of DWZ contract for next season.

They seem to be getting themselves in a bit of mess with the cap going forward. Heard there is a bit of discord over there as not everyone in the recruiting process has been informed of agreements and dont see eye to eye on targets (TPJ & Johnson). Some seem to be of the view to get any talent over there for any price where a others want to target certain positions and be diligent in how they organise their cap for future years and build the team.

Signing TPJ would all but end their hopes of signing B. Smith. They also have a tricky situation where Burton will be available to negotiate from November 2022 and would be due a hefty pay rise.

Yes they got Burton at a bargain rate, I wondered if their was a trigger clause or an out, looks like he has both going on what you are saying

It remains to be seen whether Burton is a bargain at the ~$500,000 a season they reportedly signed him on. He's been pretty sporadic in his performances in the halves.

I think this weekend will be the 1st time you can judge Burton truly and honestly

He looked pretty handy last game when Cleary wasn't there