Tevita Pangai Junior

@hsvjones said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408325) said:
@iofthetigers said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408310) said:
@telltails said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1407338) said:
Who has he signed with?

Dogs effective immediately

Most likely and guess what he will play us 1st after his suspension and absolutely tear us a new one.. Then us fans will sit back and say once again why didn't we sign him... Because we are so scared to spend $1 over a market value and forget we are not the Storm , Souths or Roosters who can attract players ... We are the Tigers

Not scared at all, just smart. Paying overs has done us well in the past, NOT. If you are going to pay overs it has to be for a player that will drive the club forward and that’s not Pangai.
 
JAC = topliner = Dogs
Burton = topliner = Dogs
TPJ = topliner = Dogs


Tamou = cheaper option / washed up= us.
Maumolo = cheaper option / good, but lacks speed or class = us
SuA = cheaper option, solid, but lots of flaws = maybe us


Well, if we want to stay where we are and not add any X factor / elite players, we are doing it right...mediocrity.

Sometimes you need to roll the dice and for a few hundred grand more we might have landed all three.

If people think Hartigan and Madge have a plan, that is good.

But it is going to be a very, very slow one at this rate.
 
@tigerstar said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408368) said:
@sunnycoast_tiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408362) said:
@iofthetigers said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408342) said:
@telltails said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408313) said:
@iofthetigers said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408310) said:
@telltails said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1407338) said:
Who has he signed with?

Dogs effective immediately

Done?

Done,the dogs are going to have a fire sale to clear the decks

I thought I read it somewhere that he didn’t want to go to dogs? Can’t wait for the fire sale.

Yep going for the old dumpster dive, it's what we do best.

A lot of fans have been screaming to get Marshall back. Does Marshall king count?
 
@elleryhanley said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408469) said:
JAC = topliner = Dogs
Burton = topliner = Dogs
TPJ = topliner = Dogs


Tamou = cheaper option / washed up= us.
Maumolo = cheaper option / good, but lacks speed or class = us
SuA = cheaper option, solid, but lots of flaws = maybe us


Well, if we want to stay where we are and not add any X factor / elite players, we are doing it right...mediocrity.

Sometimes you need to roll the dice and for a few hundred grand more we might have landed all three.

If people think Hartigan and Madge have a plan, that is good.

But it is going to be a very, very slow one at this rate.

Panthers are the exact model to follow. There are major similarities between leagues club funding, junior bases etc. Gould is the difference. They get players at 16-17 and make them stars. It’s the only way.
 
@tyga said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408496) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408469) said:
JAC = topliner = Dogs
Burton = topliner = Dogs
TPJ = topliner = Dogs


Tamou = cheaper option / washed up= us.
Maumolo = cheaper option / good, but lacks speed or class = us
SuA = cheaper option, solid, but lots of flaws = maybe us


Well, if we want to stay where we are and not add any X factor / elite players, we are doing it right...mediocrity.

Sometimes you need to roll the dice and for a few hundred grand more we might have landed all three.

If people think Hartigan and Madge have a plan, that is good.

But it is going to be a very, very slow one at this rate.

Panthers are the exact model to follow. There are major similarities between leagues club funding, junior bases etc. Gould is the difference. They get players at 16-17 and make them stars. It’s the only way.

We've always had the 16-17 year old players coming through but hit a brick wall when they get a couple years older. Other teams come in and take them cause our management is asleep at the wheel on many occassions.
 
@red-rugby said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408428) said:
Its one thing to say we're having a fire sale to clear the decks but if there's no interest (in the players that have run last for the last two seasons), then I'm not sure how successful the fire sale will be....

I mean they're paying DWZ to play for the Warriors, Luke Thompson has been a bust, Nic Cotric hasn't fired a shot and they still haven't signed a dummy half for next year.

A big part of the on-going issues at the Broncos was that the roster got so bent out of shape.

I think they've re-signed JMK as their hooker. Blown all their money on outside backs, JMK would be all they could manage with whatever money they've got left. And they don't have a halfback.
 
@yeahcaz said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408429) said:
@jc99 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408425) said:
@wt2k said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408420) said:
@jadtiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408414) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408395) said:
@roar_power said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408389) said:
The dogs can look forward to the most judiciary appearances in 2022. TPJ and Hetherington alone make up a season of suspensions...

They can also look forward to a significantly improved roster though. If you were a Dogs fan you’d be looking forward to next year. Us not so much.


Dogs will finish behind us

This year most likely, next year not likely

They won't make finals though. 3 good players doesn't fix the rest of the bums and their awful coach

They need a halfback, a fullback and a hooker if they want to compete. Solid forward pack but they're a bit boneheaded

But they’ll still be closer than us and will show signs of improvement, couple that with big money and players will want to go there

Naden went there for less money,the only person that can attract players at the Tigers appears to be Lambkin.The Tigers need to look after him ,maybe a position as an assistant before he is scooped up by another club.
 
@tigertone said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408504) said:
@tyga said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408496) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408469) said:
JAC = topliner = Dogs
Burton = topliner = Dogs
TPJ = topliner = Dogs


Tamou = cheaper option / washed up= us.
Maumolo = cheaper option / good, but lacks speed or class = us
SuA = cheaper option, solid, but lots of flaws = maybe us


Well, if we want to stay where we are and not add any X factor / elite players, we are doing it right...mediocrity.

Sometimes you need to roll the dice and for a few hundred grand more we might have landed all three.

If people think Hartigan and Madge have a plan, that is good.

But it is going to be a very, very slow one at this rate.

Panthers are the exact model to follow. There are major similarities between leagues club funding, junior bases etc. Gould is the difference. They get players at 16-17 and make them stars. It’s the only way.

We've always had the 16-17 year old players coming through but hit a brick wall when they get a couple years older. Other teams come in and take them cause our management is asleep at the wheel on many occassions.

Enter Sheens, COE, Pathways investments. They are getting this right. Time will tell but they have talented people there and spending 100 times than we were in the past.
 
@moh said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408550) said:
Club can spin this however they like - another player who chose not to come here.

There is a significant difference between what the Tigers offered and Dogs contract. People I know at dogs are very concerned about Barrett managing him. Pangai is a beast but it’s another high risk signing on big money. May pay off for them we just need blokes that will tackle and work hard.
 
@iofthetigers said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408523) said:
@yeahcaz said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408429) said:
@jc99 said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408425) said:
@wt2k said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408420) said:
@jadtiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408414) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408395) said:
@roar_power said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408389) said:
The dogs can look forward to the most judiciary appearances in 2022. TPJ and Hetherington alone make up a season of suspensions...

They can also look forward to a significantly improved roster though. If you were a Dogs fan you’d be looking forward to next year. Us not so much.


Dogs will finish behind us

This year most likely, next year not likely

They won't make finals though. 3 good players doesn't fix the rest of the bums and their awful coach

They need a halfback, a fullback and a hooker if they want to compete. Solid forward pack but they're a bit boneheaded

But they’ll still be closer than us and will show signs of improvement, couple that with big money and players will want to go there

Naden went there for less money,the only person that can attract players at the Tigers appears to be Lambkin.The Tigers need to look after him ,maybe a position as an assistant before he is scooped up by another club.

Really? I thought he went there on a longer deal, that while less per year averaged out to being more $ in the long run.
 
@muffstar said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408374) said:
@iofthetigers said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408310) said:
@telltails said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1407338) said:
Who has he signed with?

Dogs effective immediately

I cannot for the life of me understand our recruitment. Sure TPJ might not be a cleanskin but he is so much better than what we have. Honestly we would have trouble attracting a fly to a bbq.

Vaughany might help with attracting people to our BBQ’s
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408416) said:
@jadtiger said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408414) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408395) said:
@roar_power said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408389) said:
The dogs can look forward to the most judiciary appearances in 2022. TPJ and Hetherington alone make up a season of suspensions...

They can also look forward to a significantly improved roster though. If you were a Dogs fan you’d be looking forward to next year. Us not so much.


Dogs will finish behind us

How so? They’ve improved their roster and we haven’t.

Their spine is woeful..

Who's the fullback?
Addo-Carr?
He's hardly a #1 , only ever been a winger.

6?
Averillo? Potential.
Lewis? Dud.
Wakeham? Shocking.

7? Burton? Yeah he was the next big thing but he's been good at centre and shocking in the halves.

9? Jeremy Marshall King? Sione Katoa? Brad aDietz? Get out of here. Who are these guys.

If that isn't the worst spine in the comp, I don't know what is.

And then you got 12 or so players off contract, they need to fill a roster and won't if they spend all their cap on JAC, Burton and TPJ.

Their forwards are aging out of the game too.
Josh Jackson hasn't been that good since Cordner was captaining NSW to back to back losses.

Napa? Flop
Elliot? Bad
Hetherington? Too reckless.
The pommy guy is about their only good forward these days and he's not that good.

Two nice potential players in doorey and topine though. I'd take the pair of them.
 
I just had a look at a dogs fan twitter page and they seem to think that giving TPJ $800k a year will leave them enough in the cap to go hard for a hooker and a half.
Seriously can someone please explain how this can be true?
How is it that some clubs have an endless amount in their cap? Cause thats what it seems like.
 
@tigertone said in [Pangai Junior](/post/1408565) said:
I just had a look at a dogs fan twitter page and they seem to think that giving TPJ $800k a year will leave them enough in the cap to go hard for a hooker and a half.
Seriously can someone please explain how this can be true?
How is it that some clubs have an endless amount in their cap? Cause thats what it seems like.

Most of the team is off contract.
Probably unlikely to resign them.

They're going to have Cotric, JaC, Burton, TPJ on big money.
Still be paying for DWZ and no money to address their real problems.
Naden isn't coming for free.
Allan was a QLD rep when he signed.

It's very reckless spending on their behalf.

They haven't had a #9 since Lichaa left them.
 

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