That last try was not a try

It's a fair point for some of the blame to go to Moltzen, but then Lote stuffed up as well, however we shouldn't have been in that position had Farah kicked the ball on the 5th rather than try to run it. Quite a few players could be held accountable for the loss.

The try is only fair if it was certain that no one had a hand on Inu and that the ref had not called time off. Both hard to tell initially.

It did remind me of last years debacle with the Roosters, yes we should have received a penalty in that scrum, however, Rhino, instead of falling on the ball, waited for the ref to blow the whistle. You'd think the players would have learned a bit from last year and not wait for the ref to blow his whistle but act quickly in case the wrong or even right call is made.
 
Exactly Dave, comes back to the previous set, not enough urgency on last play, a queensland player would have stopped that try. But I'm not going to blame anyone, warriors deserved it with their second half, they were better on the night
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I watched it this morning, and the one thing i didn't understand is how it wasn't picked up that Krishan Inu Knocked on in the initial grab of the ball with Chris Lawrence.

Granted, Lawrence Knocked on as well, but Inu definitely got a hand to it, and it didn't go backwards - Inu falling forwards gave the impression of it going behind him.

Lote then knocks it back into Inu's hands - and that is where the play should stop.

Whats done it done now, but still, looked like a straightforward knock on for mind.
 
@tigerlogic said:
My reason is this Dave.. Read everything he says, and that's my reason.
People blaming moltzen, get real, the try was fair, we stuffed up on last tackle of previous set! Anyone who thinks otherwise stop embarrassing urselves
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Why am I a moron? Moltzen could have placed his hand on Inu and that would have been that. Farah should not have run the ball on the 5th. Lots of reasons for the try, which was ok by the way. However to say that Moltzen has nothing to answer for in the scoring of the try is just stupid.

Moltzen was always going to cost us big time in some game, however he picked the wrong game to prove me right.

He is not a fullback and never will be one. Has no idea of positional play required from a fullback and lacks the commitment to catch a ball. If he wants to know how it is done check out Beal last night.

I will bet you that he will not be the fullback at Saints next year. Halfback or like all of the other weststigers players purchased by St. George, reserve grade for him. Which I believe is his best position.
 
Definitely no try!!! Clearly obVious that Inu knocks it forward in the contest with Lawrence….....its as clear as day.

Both commentators.....Smith and Alexander who i rate highly were both stunned.As am I.

Our season is over because of a CLEAR error!!
 
@underdog said:
I watched it this morning, and the one thing i didn't understand is how it wasn't picked up that Krishan Inu Knocked on in the initial grab of the ball with Chris Lawrence.

Granted, Lawrence Knocked on as well, but Inu definitely got a hand to it, and it didn't go backwards - Inu falling forwards gave the impression of it going behind him.

Lote then knocks it back into Inu's hands - and that is where the play should stop.

Whats done it done now, but still, looked like a straightforward knock on for mind.

bang on underdog!!!still shaking my head…..
 
@simonthetiger said:
Definitely no try!!! Clearly obVious that Inu knocks it forward in the contest with Lawrence….....its as clear as day.

Both commentators.....Smith and Alexander who i rate highly were both stunned.As am I.

Our season is over because of a CLEAR error!!

Our season is over because we can't close out a game Simon. That much is clear.
 
Prob already been said but i dont care whether it was or wasnt. The game was ours and WE lost it. You could analyse a half dozen incidents that cost us the match. Its an 80 minute game, unforunatley we lost the plot after 60
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@simonthetiger said:
Definitely no try!!! Clearly obVious that Inu knocks it forward in the contest with Lawrence….....its as clear as day.

Both commentators.....Smith and Alexander who i rate highly were both stunned.As am I.

Our season is over because of a CLEAR error!!

Our season is over because we can't close out a game Simon. That much is clear.

We did enough early to win the game…...it was a semi against good opposition who had nothing to lose,esp in the second half where they completed 17/19 sets,a near flawless display.

We closed out nine in a row.it should have been ten.
 
it wasnt a try because he actually knocked on. the ball left his hand just before he was going to get the ball down
 
@simonthetiger said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
@simonthetiger said:
Definitely no try!!! Clearly obVious that Inu knocks it forward in the contest with Lawrence….....its as clear as day.

Both commentators.....Smith and Alexander who i rate highly were both stunned.As am I.

Our season is over because of a CLEAR error!!

Our season is over because we can't close out a game Simon. That much is clear.

We did enough early to win the game…...it was a semi against good opposition who had nothing to lose,esp in the second half where they completed 17/19 sets,a near flawless display.

We closed out nine in a row.it should have been ten.

Simon, I'm as big a fan as the next… But we let them back into the game. We lacked the patience that allowed us to play sensible footy until a genuine opportunity presented itself.

We lost because we failed to respect our opposition and didn't play the game accordingly.
 
Dont think we had a repeat set. Kicking game was poor. Could not force a line drop out when close to their line. And with our long kicks we should have been kicking it dead. Instead Locke was returning the ball and then "the beast" was taking the next hit up and they were 40m out fron their try line. This was followed by a quick play the ball because we couldnt dominate the ruck. Then it was Lewis Brown, Russell Packer or Sam Rapira and they were on the attack.
 
watch the last replay before the video ref gives it a try. he clearly drops the ball over the line then his hand lands on the ball. we were robbed big time. yes we should have played better but we were still robbed.
 
@alien said:
watch the last replay before the video ref gives it a try. he clearly drops the ball over the line then his hand lands on the ball. we were robbed big time. yes we should have played better but we were still robbed.

It doesn't matter Alien, good teams don't let the opposition regain a 12 point lead… Plain and simple. We were robbed, but we robbed ourselves. Silly 5th tackle options and basic errors buried us. The Warriors stayed composed and ground it out. Good on them.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@alien said:
watch the last replay before the video ref gives it a try. he clearly drops the ball over the line then his hand lands on the ball. we were robbed big time. yes we should have played better but we were still robbed.

It doesn't matter Alien, good teams don't let the opposition regain a 12 point lead… Plain and simple. We were robbed, but we robbed ourselves. Silly 5th tackle options and basic errors buried us. The Warriors stayed composed and ground it out. Good on them.

it doesnt matter if we didnt play our best - which team always does??? the try shouldnt have been awarded.
 
You can't say that the Warriors won because they 'ground it out' or that they deserved to win - they won because they were awarded a try that came from pure good luck. And it wasn't even a try anyway! Inu contested the ball unsuccessfully, fell on his face and by a complete fluke the ball was propelled by Lote back to him. There was no skill involved at all, it was a sheer fluke.

As well as that there were two forward passes in the lead up to Mateo's try. The second one, the pass to Mateo, was a pass to a player in an offside position. Should have been a penalty to Wests, or at least a scrum.

The Warriors got lucky and we got robbed… again.
 
this thread isnt about if we played our best. it is about if the last try should have been awarded a try and the answer is no. can people realy not see from the last replay that he dropped the ball just before he was going to put it down, and then his hand landed on the ball after the ball hit the ground
 
Seems we get the unlucky calls in finals time in recent years (except Marshalls try V Dragons).

I still remember blowing up at the tv about the ruling of Dwyer's tackle on Werea-Hargreaves and the knock on that followed.

I guess with how close the competition is and even more so the final series, you need the rub of the green to get the win in most games.
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