The 2nd Half Hooker Change

[Shooter Mcgavin]

Liddle and Simpkin is my preference going forward.

Plenty of versatility in the starting 13 to stop gap if needed during a game if injuries occur in the backline.

Liddle suffering from people not backing him up when he shoots out in my opinion. Always seems to get his nose out but lacks options to pass off to in attempt to create a line break. His service hasn’t been great but I think he’s doing ok.

Would love to see Simpkin given another chance to go tandem with Liddle. Not like Mbye is in future club plans anyway

 

[Needaname]

I felt like our hookers don’t play with the markers enough, I know we would be shaking our heads when Farah crabs across field and overplaying his hand but we aren’t getting any deception from dummy half at all.
Compared to Turpin who on every play engaged the markers and brought his props hard onto the ball.

 

[Geo]

Rubbish Mbye shuffled the ball..big whooop..

 

[crazycat]

I liked when he went down a short blind side and killed out attack.

Almost every time we had the ball we scored. His defence is absolutely terrible and is a very dumb footballer.

I watched Mbye a few times.
What I like:
He gives good ball to other players, lets them go rather then go himself often.
He can be at the right place and right time defense wise.

What I dont like:
Mbye defines "Speed hump!" In defense. When Diane Laurie can stop people and Mbye cant it says something.

700k and really not earning a starting spot..

Yet Mbye does get the passing flow. It seems that Manly and other teams get that you try one end and then keep passing till someone creates an overlap. This works for Manlys attack really well. I see Mbye as fitting this, but thats a 300k role.

 

[DJG]

The only good thing Mbye did was go to Number 1 (and miss a tackle) when Laurie went off to the blood bin.

The reason I say this is imagine our team re-structuring IF we didn't have Mbye to cover fullback..

Who goes to the back? Would be Douhie, but then who goes to 6?

 

[Russell]

Say what you like about Moses Mbye, but his service in the 2nd half was far superior to Liddles and our attack looked far more crisp in the 2nd half.

1st Half - 18-10 Loss (Liddle Hooker)
2nd Half - 32 - 6 Win (Mbye Hooker)

No It was not just Mbye, but the extra seconds that Mbye gave us from his service just gave us a bit more time to be a bit more crisp. I find with Liddle we start the play slow and it goes down from there.


Note: I am not an Mbye fan, but fair is fair.

For all the Mbye haters ....today showed exactly what Madge is trying to do with a talented bunch of young guys...if you have at least a little bit of NRL understanding the experience and knowledge shown by Tamou and Mbye was what won us the game...Tamou played really well today with his carries and leadership and Mbye was good at dh...
If you love AD as I do ,he started to show his hogging of the ball,once Mbye came on AD distributed the ball and gave the backs the opportunity to do something with it,this is why JTJ hasnt shown much so far...

Bag me out as much as you like its an open forum,but at least consider how much work Madge has to do to get this team playing as one as they did today...well done all round....

Mbye: 1 six again, 2 not called forward passes and caused 2 Broncos trys. Slowest feed from dummy half ever. He is totally disinterested in in the Wests Tigers. He should never wear a Wests Tigers jumper again.

Purely your opinion Mike...everyone has one,however Stirling who was one of the greatest players to play the game said Mbye had a very good game....

Of course it’s my opinion. I don’t always agree with Sterlo either. Sterlo is a Mitch Moses fan as well.

Obviously likes players who do nothing and Tank.

 

[voice_of_reason]

The reason I say this is imagine our team re-structuring IF we didn't have Mbye to cover fullback..

Who goes to the back? Would be Douhie, but then who goes to 6?

Nofo to fullback, Talau to wing and Garner to centre - not ideal but we've done it before.

 

[Russell]

mbye not making mistakes is a mistake. you cant get told off for not making mistake but no one tell you off for being ordinary.

You also can't make a mistake if you don't do anything.

 

[TigerWest]

The only good thing Mbye did was go to Number 1 (and miss a tackle) when Laurie went off to the blood bin.

The reason I say this is imagine our team re-structuring IF we didn't have Mbye to cover fullback..

Who goes to the back? Would be Douhie, but then who goes to 6?

Agree, I think we need a utility, Mbye has covered most positions and I didn’t think he was that bad, that he shouldn’t be in the team, we have no one else?

 

[Kelce68]

The reason I say this is imagine our team re-structuring IF we didn't have Mbye to cover fullback..

Who goes to the back? Would be Douhie, but then who goes to 6?

Nofo to fullback, Talau to wing and Garner to centre - not ideal but we've done it before.

Exactly. There should always be contingencies, but going into the game carrying a playing in case you get an injury is such a low-percentage option.

How many games have we played in the last 5 years where we lost a key spine player? <10% would be my guess.

So stop picking a Mr. Fix It for an improbable situation, pick the best bench you can instead and have contingencies in place in case a key player goes down.

 

[Kelce68]

The only good thing Mbye did was go to Number 1 (and miss a tackle) when Laurie went off to the blood bin.

The reason I say this is imagine our team re-structuring IF we didn't have Mbye to cover fullback..

Who goes to the back? Would be Douhie, but then who goes to 6?

Agree, I think we need a utility, Mbye has covered most positions and I didn’t think he was that bad, that he shouldn’t be in the team, we have no one else?

We have plenty else.

You could play a second hooker.
You could play a mobile bench second rower.
You could play a 5th middle.
You could play a roving playmaker (ala Papenhuyzen or Hynes)
You could play an impact forward.

There are plenty of options. One jack of all trades player on the bench is handy, but not effective. There's a difference.

 

[TigerWest]

The only good thing Mbye did was go to Number 1 (and miss a tackle) when Laurie went off to the blood bin.

The reason I say this is imagine our team re-structuring IF we didn't have Mbye to cover fullback..

Who goes to the back? Would be Douhie, but then who goes to 6?

Agree, I think we need a utility, Mbye has covered most positions and I didn’t think he was that bad, that he shouldn’t be in the team, we have no one else?

We have plenty else.

You could play a second hooker.
You could play a mobile bench second rower.
You could play a 5th middle.
You could play a roving playmaker (ala Papenhuyzen or Hynes)
You could play an impact forward.

There are plenty of options. One jack of all trades player on the bench is handy, but not effective. There's a difference.

Imo, not too many you have mentioned will work well in the backs? Do you not recall MCK?
He can cover a lot of positions including the 9?

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

Say what you like about Moses Mbye, but his service in the 2nd half was far superior to Liddles and our attack looked far more crisp in the 2nd half.

1st Half - 18-10 Loss (Liddle Hooker)
2nd Half - 32 - 6 Win (Mbye Hooker)

No It was not just Mbye, but the extra seconds that Mbye gave us from his service just gave us a bit more time to be a bit more crisp. I find with Liddle we start the play slow and it goes down from there.


Note: I am not an Mbye fan, but fair is fair.

Mbye's service from hooker is snail paced slowwwwwwww

 

[TigerNeddyK]

The only good thing Mbye did was go to Number 1 (and miss a tackle) when Laurie went off to the blood bin.

The reason I say this is imagine our team re-structuring IF we didn't have Mbye to cover fullback..

Who goes to the back? Would be Douhie, but then who goes to 6?

Agree, I think we need a utility, Mbye has covered most positions and I didn’t think he was that bad, that he shouldn’t be in the team, we have no one else?

We have plenty else.

You could play a second hooker.
You could play a mobile bench second rower.
You could play a 5th middle.
You could play a roving playmaker (ala Papenhuyzen or Hynes)
You could play an impact forward.

There are plenty of options. One jack of all trades player on the bench is handy, but not effective. There's a difference.

You could play my grandmother in front of Mbye, at least she would try, and look like she wanted to be there…

 

[tigerap]

Say what you like about Moses Mbye, but his service in the 2nd half was far superior to Liddles and our attack looked far more crisp in the 2nd half.

1st Half - 18-10 Loss (Liddle Hooker)
2nd Half - 32 - 6 Win (Mbye Hooker)

No It was not just Mbye, but the extra seconds that Mbye gave us from his service just gave us a bit more time to be a bit more crisp. I find with Liddle we start the play slow and it goes down from there.


Note: I am not an Mbye fan, but fair is fair.


Mbye's service from hooker is snail paced slowwwwwwww

And the ball delivered is just above the ankles

 

[crazycat]

The only good thing Mbye did was go to Number 1 (and miss a tackle) when Laurie went off to the blood bin.

The reason I say this is imagine our team re-structuring IF we didn't have Mbye to cover fullback..

Who goes to the back? Would be Douhie, but then who goes to 6?

Agree, I think we need a utility, Mbye has covered most positions and I didn’t think he was that bad, that he shouldn’t be in the team, we have no one else?

Weird that Corey Thompson seems to fit that role for the titans perfectly. He was happy on 80k and then we upgraded him.

For some reason we went out and brought Mbye to replace Corey. What a waste. We could have had BOTH morris twins instead.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Say what you like about Moses Mbye, but his service in the 2nd half was far superior to Liddles and our attack looked far more crisp in the 2nd half.

1st Half - 18-10 Loss (Liddle Hooker)
2nd Half - 32 - 6 Win (Mbye Hooker)

No It was not just Mbye, but the extra seconds that Mbye gave us from his service just gave us a bit more time to be a bit more crisp. I find with Liddle we start the play slow and it goes down from there.


Note: I am not an Mbye fan, but fair is fair.


Mbye's service from hooker is snail paced slowwwwwwww

I want him gone as much as anyone, but his service was better than Liddles on the weekend imo.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

If Mbye apparently made the difference imagine if, ooooo I dunno, we had a specialist hooker in the lower grades who could come off the bench?

 

[avocadoontoast]

If Mbye apparently made the difference imagine if, ooooo I dunno, we had a specialist hooker in the lower grades who could come off the bench?

Yep I can’t imagine why Simpkin isn’t getting a run.

 

[earl]

If Mbye apparently made the difference imagine if, ooooo I dunno, we had a specialist hooker in the lower grades who could come off the bench?

Yep I can’t imagine why Simpkin isn’t getting a run.

I think Mbye should be dropped. He doesn't offer enough to make the team. I get why Madge keeps picking him. He makes it easier to manage injuries during the game. I just think we need to get the 9 position firing and LIddle/Simpkin is a much better choice than one that includes Mbye.