The Death of Passion

Tiger_Steve

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This time last year I couldn’t wait for the season to start.
But this off season has killed my passion. Not for the Tigers- but for the game.
I watched a video of Fafita before indigenous game photos - he was carrying on like an absolute fool. I just thought - I have no interest in supporting these absolute idiots anymore.
Now I know I’ll be at Belmore for the trial and I’ll be at Leichhardt round 1 but the constant idiocy of the modern day player plus the absolute incompetent administration has done me in.
I know - it’s not all of them etc etc
One thing for sure - if I’m over it, god help the game cause I’m about as rusted on as you can get
Thoughts??
 
I haven’t felt the same way since Tedesco and Woods walked out. Not them leaving exactly, but the circus that went with it, and the way we rode that saga everyday for 6 months. It got me so mentally drained, apathy took over, and it’s been that way ever since. Nowhere near as emotionally invested as I used to be, which is why I can’t relate to everyone having a meltdown over what’s been happening lately. There’s more to life. Hopefully the passion I had comes back, because I want it to. We’ll see.
 
I really get that. Mentally draining- absolutely. When I read this latest garbage about magpies wanting to go alone etc I just thought - I cant take much more of this. No more controversy
 
I understand the anger from people but the vast majority of players are doing the right thing

And a lot of us forget the good the players do visiting hospitals , schools , special needs victims and the work of the various rugby league foundations like FOG's extra helping out people in need

A new season is almost here …fire up WT's and fire up Forum members

Show your passion and desire .....get your jerseys out ....show the colours and be loud and proud
 
I can see your point TS and I'm pretty much over it as well. I reckon I'm a goner soon if the NRL doesn't pull up it's socks. I love the game but hate the NRL farce and I find it more and more difficult to justify committing my time to it.
 
I'm increasingly getting frustrated by the way the game and our club are being run. It's feels like groundhog day this last decade. No improvement anywhere, nothing new to get you excited.
Add 7 years of missing the 8 to that and it all gets a bit boring come late July / early August. A new coach and new captain has freshened me up though and I'm excited again for the new season.

Parra's crapness helps too.
 
The NRL media machine actually thrives on player cock ups - they milk all the issues for all they can and that's hypocrisy at the highest level
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
I haven’t felt the same way since Tedesco and Woods walked out. Not them leaving exactly, but the circus that went with it, and the way we rode that saga everyday for 6 months. It got me so mentally drained, apathy took over, and it’s been that way ever since. Nowhere near as emotionally invested as I used to be, which is why I can’t relate to everyone having a meltdown over what’s been happening lately. There’s more to life. Hopefully the passion I had comes back, because I want it to. We’ll see.

Yah for me it's a lot of that - but also the fact that year after year our club struggles to attract quality players in their prime. Not for the lack of trying necessarily, we're just not an attractive club.
 
I see the NRL as a poorly run version of the premier league. Going into a season there are a very small number of clubs that are the likely champions.

Despite all the talk of level playing fields that is obviously not the case.
 
Bit the same here as well. Losing Teddy and Woodsy in the manner we did was a bit soul destroying (but on the upside we said good bye to Mitch as well, so not all doom and gloom 😁)

What really makes me less invested is all the whispers and innuendo about too many Sydney teams and how Wests Tigers are always seemed to be suggested for relocation etc.

It’s hard to get fully invested if the NRL are going to make things hard for us.
 
The game is stale and the administration is stale. Okay once the season starts things will pick up, but when diehards like me are down on interest the game is in big trouble
 
The consistent inconsistency of the NRL is my biggest problem. Constant rule tinkering, flogging some clubs & players with lettuce leaves and others with sledgehammers and perceived inequities between a select few clubs and the rest.

I'm sure we're feeling it more due to our finals hiatus and our own years of comical management but I feel the club has turned the front office around and the on field performances will follow.
 
@innsaneink said:
The NRL media machine actually thrives on player cock ups - they milk all the issues for all they can and that’s hypocrisy at the highest level

The NRL has grown like topsy in admin staff numbers and the salaries paid to these staff. They have become a dictatorship and have been very ineffectively trying to justify their jobs. However in doing so they have only highlighted their inefficiency and worthlessness.
 
Don't think the players care too much tbh …..they still get paid and it's not like they are worried about the future of the game
 
I have a theory about all this.

I am guessing that most people who are disenfranchised about the game are of a certain age group, normally born before ~1990 (such as myself). These folks remember golden eras of rugby league (perhaps not so golden if you actually go back and watch the matches) and ideas of "simpler times" when men were men and the players did the talking on-field etc etc.

Now I'm not for one minute saying anyone is ignorant or misinformed, just that the NRL has undergone a massive transformation the past few years and not all of the older supporters are happily going along with it.

I liken it to Star Wars. The original Star Wars was something special and the more the years pass, the more "special" and cherished it is to folks who grew up watching Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader. It transformed people's expectations of cinema, pop-culture, toys and gaming, storytelling, special effects etc.

If you look at the prequel trilogies and now the new JJ Abrams movies, do the old Star Wars fans have the same passion for the new movies? The answer is totally NO. Most fans, at best, tolerate the prequels. Many fans thought Force Awakens was alright, sometimes good, and about half the fans absolutely hated hated hated The Last Jedi.

What do the fans say now? They say Disney has ruined Star Wars, but even the bearded wonder who created the whole thing, he kind of ruined it as well with his prequels. He tried to add too much CGI, tried to appeal too much to the new generation of kids. Disney now create movies to cater to social media, online review websites, gaming and bluray considerations etc. etc. "It's not how it used to be".

And in my opinion the NRL is exactly the same. There are folks who feel like they've "lost the passion" because the product has changed and they don't think they like the new product. Perhaps it's too political, or too slick, or the difference between rich and poor clubs is too great. Or perhaps ongoing lack of success.

All fair and genuine feelings - I'm not going to tell anyone how to feel about footy. What I will say however is that it is normal and common for populations of fans to turn away from products over the course of their lifetime. Not just the Star Wars -type effects of a changed mass product, but also the obvious stuff like cultural pressures (climate change, right-wing democracy, social media etc. etc.) and local home pressures like raising kids, divorce, money etc.

No the NRL isn't the same product any more. Society obviously has changed and football has to change with it. Not everyone likes that, not everyone maintains the passion. But, nobody retains all passion for all things all their life anyway. NRL's really big focus, to be frank, is not us heavier supporters but the casual supporter - the person who sometimes flits the TV on to NRL. NRL's focus is the kids who will be supporting for the next 6-7 decades and the new female supporters who are increasingly important every year. Jersey sales and memberships are great, but the real money comes from TV viewership - pure total numbers.

Also, ending my rant, as this topic is at the forefront of my mind, I also challenge folks to consider whether their current feelings about the NRL aren't in fact cyclical. I listen to a great League podcast called "The Rugby League Digest" and they spend significant time every year looking back at old rugby league stories / tales / media. What surprises (or perhaps does not surprise) is all these comments about rugby league have been around since 1908 and come and go - administration is out of touch, product is no good, rich clubs have too much success, refs have no idea etc. etc. It's the same stuff in 1920, 1940, 1960, 1980, 2019\.

Personally I love the footy and year on year I lose my passion actually for the off-field stuff. Not fussed about interviews or predictions or fantasy or the like. Just tell me who is in the team, when we play and then who can I talk to about what I saw in the play. The rest of it be damned - and it retains my passion for actual football, not the off-field nonsense that seems to be a bigger and bigger part of the game now.
 
One of the major issues is players and their habits probably hasn't changed a great deal either ….. but almost every player is far more recognizable to the entire public eye now

Back in our day you watched maybe 3 games a weekend at most on TV , now every game is available and with the internet players get far more coverage

And legally it wasn't a big issue ....now with out of courts settlements this stuff can be big bucks and unfortunately some are ready to cash in
 
Very interesting comparison between football and star wars.As a man who is far closer to the grave than the cradle i can honestly say even Jar Jar Binks was more likeable than Greenberg and was more positive for star wars than Greenberg will ever be for the NRL
 

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