The difference between us and the bottom clubs

[TSupps05]

I think most of us would have been stoked this time last year for what we have done this year.

**If i got told we were finishing 9th i would have been pretty happy. According to everyone else we were a shoe in for the spooners.**

Give us a preseason of:

1\. Mbye
6\. Reynolds
7\. Brooks
9\. Farah

and then we can evaluate and have a whinge if we are not scoring points.

Never acceptable…never
Im sick to death of people making excuses...this fanbase really does have have an accepting mediocrity problem
We failed overall yet again...
Most clubs see a premiership as success.....we see making the top 8 as success
This is also the difference between us and ALL the clubs

The difference with us and them is the players at our disposal. We had ZERO Origin players and only 1 or 2 international reps. With teams like Melbourne, Cronulla, Rooster, Bunnies they have at least half their team playing origin or for Australia, New Zealand or England. Because of this they are expected to win premierships. Unlike us.

 

[Marshall_magic]

We are a decent team, but we are bottlers. Every time over the past 5 years we have gone into anything resembling a big game, we have been handily thrashed, even by bog average teams like the Dragons a week ago.

Compare that to teams like Brisbane, whenever they NEED to win a game, they win.

So true, unfortunately it has been going on for more than 5 years, somehow or someone needs to fix this if we are to ever play finals footy again. :frowning:

Was thinking about this the other day, since the Canberra semi in 2010 what is the biggest game we have won?

 

[Tigertail]

Alot of you guys are so pessimistic. We came 14th last year, lost supposedly three of our best players. Then this year did a cleanout of our 2017 team , we have brought in 15 players , molded this new team together. On paper at the start, no one rates us a chance to get anywhere near the 8\. We end up being an unlucky 9th. Your very hard to please, maybe you should follow the rorters

 

[happy_tiger]

We are a decent team, but we are bottlers. Every time over the past 5 years we have gone into anything resembling a big game, we have been handily thrashed, even by bog average teams like the Dragons a week ago.

Compare that to teams like Brisbane, whenever they NEED to win a game, they win.

So true, unfortunately it has been going on for more than 5 years, somehow or someone needs to fix this if we are to ever play finals footy again. :frowning:

Yeah but MM when your big games start in Rd 17 and you have Adam Blair in the centres and Cory Patterson on the wing …...you know it won't end well :wink:

 

[Russell]

Alot of you guys are so pessimistic. We came 14th last year, lost supposedly three of our best players. Then this year did a cleanout of our 2017 team , we have brought in 15 players , molded this new team together. On paper at the start, no one rates us a chance to get anywhere near the 8\. We end up being an unlucky 9th. Your very hard to please, maybe you should follow the rorters

Absolutely well said.

Then again these are the same people that by a Toyota Yaris and expect it to perform like a Ferrari, because they feel like they shouldn't accept mediocrity. Lol

 

[jirskyr]

Alot of you guys are so pessimistic. We came 14th last year, lost supposedly three of our best players. Then this year did a cleanout of our 2017 team , we have brought in 15 players , molded this new team together. On paper at the start, no one rates us a chance to get anywhere near the 8\. We end up being an unlucky 9th. Your very hard to please, maybe you should follow the rorters

Absolutely well said.

Then again these are the same people that by a Toyota Yaris and expect it to perform like a Ferrari, because they feel like they shouldn't accept mediocrity. Lol

I personally think it's as much about what other fans think than what Tigers fans feel. Tigers fans are always emotional about the performances, so everything gets tainted with an emotional reaction - positive or negative.

But what about other fans? Do they think Tigers are a better side? As far as I can tell, and I try to avoid talking to non-Tigers fans generally, the answer is YES.

No finals, no, which would be taken as "typical Tigers", same "typical" fortunes as Canberra failing to perform despite a dynamic roster, Roosters underperforming forwards pack, Saints dropping form right at finals time and Broncos getting a nice run on Friday night with the refs.

But are we a danger team? Yes. We are rated a very good chance of winning tomorrow night, which is weird for a 9th-placed team taking on a 3rd-placed side that is warming up for the finals.

I gather that other fans think the Tigers are a better team this year. It also explains why in the player poll Ivan Cleary rated highly as a coach, because I believe part of that is in relation to playing for or against his teams and seeing the change when he becomes the coach.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Yes, if you had have told me we would finish 9th at the start of the year, I'd have been pretty happy with that.

But we started off 5-1 and scalped Easts, a Parra side who finished in the top 4 last year, and the Storm twice, and lost questionably to Brisbane. I can't say for certain we would have beaten the Broncos, but the decision to award the penalty goal took the game away from us though.

From there we should have gone on to finish comfortably in the eight. Instead we pissed around with hookers, lost to teams outside the top four.

Since when, if ever, has a team had a record of what, 5-1, against teams placed in the top four when we played them and still missed the eight?

Dropping those two games earlier in the year against the Knights and Parra, losing to an understrength Easts, getting shown up by the Titans, and losing to Canterbury and the Saints when the season was on the line. 6 games we could have, and should have won, and we bottled it.

Our expectations should have, and for most of us did, change six rounds in. We should have qualified from thereon in. We didn't. The year was a failure in that respect.

 

[innsaneink]

Alot of you guys are so pessimistic. We came 14th last year, lost supposedly three of our best players. Then this year did a cleanout of our 2017 team , we have brought in 15 players , molded this new team together. On paper at the start, no one rates us a chance to get anywhere near the 8\. We end up being an unlucky 9th. Your very hard to please, maybe you should follow the rorters

Absolutely well said.

Then again these are the same people that by a Toyota Yaris and expect it to perform like a Ferrari, because they feel like they shouldn't accept mediocrity. Lol

Expecting a yaris to. Perform like a Ferrari is unrealistic.

You're saying us finishing halfway or better was unrealistic…. It's every teams goal for Christ's sake

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Alot of you guys are so pessimistic. We came 14th last year, lost supposedly three of our best players. Then this year did a cleanout of our 2017 team , we have brought in 15 players , molded this new team together. On paper at the start, no one rates us a chance to get anywhere near the 8\. We end up being an unlucky 9th. Your very hard to please, maybe you should follow the rorters

Absolutely well said.

Then again these are the same people that by a Toyota Yaris and expect it to perform like a Ferrari, because they feel like they shouldn't accept mediocrity. Lol

Expecting a yaris to. Perform like a Ferrari is unrealistic.

You're saying us finishing halfway or better was unrealistic…. It's every teams goal for Christ's sake

The goalposts move as the year goes on as things change.

If we lost five key players (say Brooks, Lawrence, Marsters, Packer & Reynolds,) in round 1 to ACL injuries, we'd all be changing our expectations that being that the year is a write off and that anything but the spoon is exceeding expectations.

We started 5-1 and took some huge scalps. We should never have dropped our bundle from there.

 

[Russell]

Alot of you guys are so pessimistic. We came 14th last year, lost supposedly three of our best players. Then this year did a cleanout of our 2017 team , we have brought in 15 players , molded this new team together. On paper at the start, no one rates us a chance to get anywhere near the 8\. We end up being an unlucky 9th. Your very hard to please, maybe you should follow the rorters

Absolutely well said.

Then again these are the same people that by a Toyota Yaris and expect it to perform like a Ferrari, because they feel like they shouldn't accept mediocrity. Lol

Expecting a yaris to. Perform like a Ferrari is unrealistic.

You're saying us finishing halfway or better was unrealistic…. It's every teams goal for Christ's sake

Not with the players we had - that is unrealistic!!!!!

 

[Tigertail]

We got off to a good start to this season because our coach had us better prepared than other sides, problem was always the dummy half, and that was shown up more when the other teams worked us out, and we found ourselves in unfamiliar territory when we were favourites to win games. As soon as we got Robbie back, and Mbye at fullback, that made a huge difference, and we got back on track, just a lil too late. Overall we did amazing, alot better than expected we won 12, lost 12 , its the best we have performed since 2011\. Who would have thought that at the start of the season.

 

[innsaneink]

Alot of you guys are so pessimistic. We came 14th last year, lost supposedly three of our best players. Then this year did a cleanout of our 2017 team , we have brought in 15 players , molded this new team together. On paper at the start, no one rates us a chance to get anywhere near the 8\. We end up being an unlucky 9th. Your very hard to please, maybe you should follow the rorters

Absolutely well said.

Then again these are the same people that by a Toyota Yaris and expect it to perform like a Ferrari, because they feel like they shouldn't accept mediocrity. Lol

Expecting a yaris to. Perform like a Ferrari is unrealistic.

You're saying us finishing halfway or better was unrealistic…. It's every teams goal for Christ's sake

Not with the players we had - that is unrealistic!!!!!

That's rubbish Russell and you know it… You're an apologist

 

[gallagher]

Alot of you guys are so pessimistic. We came 14th last year, lost supposedly three of our best players. Then this year did a cleanout of our 2017 team , we have brought in 15 players , molded this new team together. On paper at the start, no one rates us a chance to get anywhere near the 8\. We end up being an unlucky 9th. Your very hard to please, maybe you should follow the rorters

Absolutely well said.

Then again these are the same people that by a Toyota Yaris and expect it to perform like a Ferrari, because they feel like they shouldn't accept mediocrity. Lol

I think we should be buying ferraris. You seem happy with us only buying yaris' though.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I think most of us would have been stoked this time last year for what we have done this year.

If i got told we were finishing 9th i would have been pretty happy. **According to everyone else we were a shoe in for the spooners.**

Give us a preseason of:

1\. Mbye
6\. Reynolds
7\. Brooks
9\. Farah

and then we can evaluate and have a whinge if we are not scoring points.

According to who? The media? Doesn’t the forum blow a gasket whenever we get tipped for the spoon. All of a sudden it’s all the rage to wear those spoon predictions as a badge of honour to push this stupid agenda that we overachieved. Getting sick to death of reading where everyone predicted us to finish every second post just so people can feel justified about not criticising yet another failed year.

 

[Geo]

Difference…nothing when Souff's put 50 on the scoreboard...

 

[Russell]

Alot of you guys are so pessimistic. We came 14th last year, lost supposedly three of our best players. Then this year did a cleanout of our 2017 team , we have brought in 15 players , molded this new team together. On paper at the start, no one rates us a chance to get anywhere near the 8\. We end up being an unlucky 9th. Your very hard to please, maybe you should follow the rorters

Absolutely well said.

Then again **these are the same people** that by a Toyota Yaris and expect it to perform like a Ferrari, because they feel like they shouldn't accept mediocrity. Lol

I think we should be buying ferraris. You seem happy with us only buying yaris' though.

Don't know about you Gal - I want Ferrari's at the right price, not overs. If you see above I said "these are the same people" - this does not include me. Unfortunately over the last few years we have had too many Yaris players and you can't win a comp with them. In fact depending on if they are fine tuned or not - you won't even make the eight.

Let's hope Cleary has a couple of second hand Ferrari's lined up (new if possible - cap space) and not any more clapped out Toyotas.

 

[Russell]

Absolutely well said.

Then again these are the same people that by a Toyota Yaris and expect it to perform like a Ferrari, because they feel like they shouldn't accept mediocrity. Lol

Expecting a yaris to. Perform like a Ferrari is unrealistic.

You're saying us finishing halfway or better was unrealistic…. It's every teams goal for Christ's sake

Not with the players we had - that is unrealistic!!!!!

That's rubbish Russell and you know it… You're an apologist

I am apologising for nothing Ink - if you think we could have made the eight with players like Godinet, McIlwrick, Rochow, McQueen, Gamble, Fonua, Eisenhuth, Sue and Chee Kam you are delusional.

Totally unrealistic - we finished 15th in attack in the competition in front of Parramatta.

Who has made the eight in previous years with the second worst attack. You had totally unrealistic expectations.

It is ok though - You don't need to apologise.