The gesture

@cktiger said:
Regardless of everybody's love for Taupau and dislike of Thaiday (myself included) it was a stupid thing to do.
What's wrong with looking him in the eye and telling him what you want him to hear.
I'll go further and say the throat slitting in the haka is just as over the top and ridiculous.
It's gone past a traditional, cultural, gesture to an intimitadory insult.
Imagine the hooha if the Aussies laughed in their faces and slit their own throats after they 'performed' it.
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CK,I don't want to upset you because you are entitled to your opinion and I respect your input on the forum,having said that realistically,it is gamesmanship,hype and entertainment..I have witnessed many test matches and the big arena occasions and I have never been offended by the Haka or any other forms of WAR DANCE …it is part and parcel of what to expect on a big game occasion...also the Kiwis and other Islanders that we call our friends are very proud of their traditions and I for one absolutely respect them for it...
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If Australia had made the big comeback and won the game,do you really think there would have been this much drama about it.....I think not...cheers mate....
 
@TrueTiger said:
@cktiger said:
Regardless of everybody's love for Taupau and dislike of Thaiday (myself included) it was a stupid thing to do.
What's wrong with looking him in the eye and telling him what you want him to hear.
I'll go further and say the throat slitting in the haka is just as over the top and ridiculous.
It's gone past a traditional, cultural, gesture to an intimitadory insult.
Imagine the hooha if the Aussies laughed in their faces and slit their own throats after they 'performed' it.

CK,I don't want to upset you because you are entitled to your opinion and I respect your input on the forum,having said that realistically,it is gamesmanship,hype and entertainment..I have witnessed many test matches and the big arena occasions and I have never been offended by the Haka or any other forms of WAR DANCE …it is part and parcel of what to expect on a big game occasion...also the Kiwis and other Islanders that we call our friends are very proud of their traditions and I for one absolutely respect them for it...
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If Australia had made the big comeback and won the game,do you really think there would have been this much drama about it.....I think not...cheers mate....
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I certainly don't have any problems with their traditions TT,and having a lot of Maori friends, have witnessed my fair share of hakas for differing occasions.
It's just gone too far over the top now in sport- way past a cultural moment.
If it is now to be taken as an out and out statement of aggression and invitation to rumble then the other team should be able to return the serve with whipped cream on top.
The Aussies have been criticised for disrespect in the past just for moving forward and staring it down.
If they were to do something themselves in the next game that signified killing someone you would never hear the end of it.
Or imagine if you can the American team, with its proud history on the back of a gun in the wild west, performing a ritual where they shot everybody on the other team to death as the finale.
Now, that would be interesting viewing.
 
@cktiger said:
Regardless of everybody's love for Taupau and dislike of Thaiday (myself included) it was a stupid thing to do.
What's wrong with looking him in the eye and telling him what you want him to hear.
I'll go further and say the throat slitting in the haka is just as over the top and ridiculous.
It's gone past a traditional, cultural, gesture to an intimitadory insult.
Imagine the hooha if the Aussies laughed in their faces and slit their own throats after they 'performed' it.
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I understand where you are coming from CK, but it shouldn't be taken too seriously. It's part of the entertainment in our game. If it was done after the game then i would agree with you.
Parker's making a mountain out of a mole hill. Lol…
 
CkTiger there was nothing stopping the Aussies from accepting the Kiwi's 'invitation to rumble' or 'returning serve with cream on top'….they just opted to turn up their toes and get whalloped in every facet by the NZers instead. They had a choice to match fire with fire but there are too many softies in the Aussie team that love the front-running but didn't want to get down and dirty when the chips were down.
 
:rant parker has a carrot stuck up his arse. Great to see some passion from Marty Kapow. It's great he plays for the Weststigers. Passion great for the game Thyday, could've pulled out of that type of tackle. Go Tigers.
 
MARTY Taupau’s throat-slitting gesture during the Anzac Test was dubbed “a bit of theatre’’ and “pretty funny’’ by his Wests Tigers teammates.

They only hope Taupau can now bring the same sort of aggression and have a similar impact against the Sydney Roosters on Friday as he did for New Zealand.

The Tigers will start outsiders against the Roosters, but Taupau and Kangaroos’ prop Aaron Woods are sure to cause the home side plenty of headaches at Allianz Stadium.

They’ve been outstanding for the Tigers this season.

The showdown between Roosters hardman Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Taupau in the middle will feature no shortage of big hits for the late-night highlights reel.

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As for the debate about Taupau’s on-field antics - it was described as “not a good look for the game’’ by Kangaroos’ backrower Corey Parker - Woods said: “It was in the heat of battle, things happen, and I thought it was pretty funny.

“I was on the bench at the time. He got his head in the wrong spot, it’s part of rugby league these days. I think the boys laughed it off and didn’t take too much notice of it.’’

Tigers’ skipper Robbie Farah added: “It’s a Test match, it’s a physical game, Marty took offence to a tackle from Sammy (Thaiday), and he reacted the way he did. I thought it was good for the game, there was a big of theatre and emotion.’’

Taupau made a real impact off the bench for the Kiwis, but enjoyed being part of the run-on side for the Tigers.

Woods said while Taupau had been so effective for New Zealand when used as an impact player, it was a matter of him now churning through some extra minutes for the Tigers from the outset.

“I just think we need to get as few more minutes out of him here, each week he’s getting better, and it’s no surprise to see how well he’s going,’’ Woods said.

Woods will almost feel like its deja vu when three Kiwis line up for the Roosters, including fullback Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Shaun Kenny-Dowall and prop Sam Moa.

“They’ll definitely be on a high, so we’ll need to be ready to come out and rip and tear from the get-go,’’ the bearded prop said.

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@Fade To Black said:
CkTiger there was nothing stopping the Aussies from accepting the Kiwi's 'invitation to rumble' or 'returning serve with cream on top'….they just opted to turn up their toes and get whalloped in every facet by the NZers instead. They had a choice to match fire with fire but there are too many softies in the Aussie team that love the front-running but didn't want to get down and dirty when the chips were down.
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I agree with you in regards to the game FTB, blokes like Parker should never have been in the team, but was more referring to over the top haka.
Unfortunately if the Aussies are to give them a serve it would be seen as 'politically incorrect'.
We could have picked a team of players to beat them easy in the game but unfortunately have a crap coach and crap selectors picking the wrong blokes.
 
Loved it. It was just Marty letting him know what was coming. Nothing beats the big boys letting each other know who's boss.

Rather see a bit of banter than just props plodding up field set after set. Running and hitting with intent like Taupau, Taumololo, Thaiday, JWH, etc, and sizing each other up is great for the game. The games about competition after all.

Cry me a river Parker should be his new nick name.

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Judging from the vision, Taupau was placed in a very uncomfortable position by slamin Sam and the expression on Marty's face as his throat was squeezed, neck extended and may have had trouble breathing as well, I can understand why he was a little upset and reacted accordingly, that's the way he chose to express his feelings and by the look of sam, he got the message.
 
Bloody Hell - let's turn the game into a game of tiddly winks.

All Marty did was show that he wasn't going to take crap from anybody. He showed pride and compassion in his jumper - it was bad luck the Australian forwards (apart from Woods) didn't show the same compassion and commitment.

Instead they played like tired old men that were going through the motions. The backs (apart from Thurston) did not show one once of creativity.

How dare anyone in that team criticise Marty - especially Parker. What Thaiday did was much worse than Marty, it was also a much worse look. Stop whinging Oz - you were beaten by a better, more passionate and committed team. Well done NZ.

Without doubt - the last two Australian teams have been the worst in the 65 years I have been watching.

We need a new coach and about a 75% new team.
 
To have two guys holding you down and the other trying to choke you is going to make anyone see red. Taupau was in his rights to do what he liked after that. Thaiday should count himself lucky. The gesture was an awesome response.
I've been doing it to people at work. Hasn't really had the same impact though. I have a desk job in an office and I'm half the size of Taupau. Art directors and production managers just have a strange look at their face and walk away.

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