The new ATAR system

[Marshall_magic]

@happy_tiger The ATAR number is influenced heavily by your rank in each subjects compared with rest of the grade. I think it works in a way where (for example) if you get 2nd in the grade for Business Studies from your current marks throughout Year 12, and you somehow flunk the HSC exam and come last in the grade, you still take the 2nd best mark from the HSC exam regardless of how bad you did. So that's how you have an idea based on your current grades.

That's why teachers make such a big deal of the preliminary exams at the end of Year 11, to see the kids who do well and the kids who do poorly and set the class up next year for the subject to be in a situation where the whole class does well.

Your ranking doesn't change for the internal component, but your external score will still be poor. The internal score I guess rewards those who do well at school for the year and doesn't punish people who have an off day or are extra nervous in the exam room.

 

[hobbo1]

I'm out of the loop can someone explain the changes compared to the early 2000s?

So now it's a bit like it was many years ago , everyone does the exam at the same time and place and you are individually rated against everyone else in Australia

The overall scale is rated from .05 to .995 in regards to University as far as I read it .....a lot of your minimum entry Uni scores seem to be .5995

From what I have heard the idea is they want more people passing but far lesser people at the top end

An example is our schools Math results .....no one got an A , one person got B , but many got C+, C , or C-

Any teachers want to weigh in .......

If there are any teachers on here I’d be shocked as they’d be spending all day on the forum !
I thought junior would’ve been happy following in dads footsteps lol
Flipping burgers ?
Lol

It's too complicated for him and eats into his X Box time


Get the Xbox , put it on the driveway and smash it !
My young bloke doesn’t Xbox anymore ..
Said it’s boring !
Line him up with an apprenticeship as a plumber or sparky !
...oh and get the kid a phone ..?

Depends on age imo..... this might make me sound like im a dinousaur... but parents r giving kids phones younger and younger.... imo one only starts to worry about there social image 15-16.... me myself have not got a phone yet, as if u get a phone to young, u r evidently exposing young kids to the dangers of the internet, meani g they csn see and do stuff that they are not ready to see yet... i suppose that is why there r a lot of parental control and protection programs on their phones, a lot of my mates have some sort of protection program on there phones which will block out all the necessary content...

Both my kids 17 & 15 have had phones for years ....
Never had an issue and never had to block out any unnecessary content .
Happy’s a tight arse !

 

[cochise]

What’s your argument, I don’t quite understand your point sorry ?

Ok an example

So to try and work out what grades the kids need to get the ATAR they need to get into the Uni choice ...there is absolutely nothing on it anywhere

Yet when I (we perhaps ) went to school you had an idea based on your current grades what you TE , OP etc score would be within a range

So you need .59 to do BA for example .....what grades do you need to get it

And the next point is many kids have no idea what they want to do at this point (year 10 )

I thought the idea was to lessen the pressure on kids at exam time .....yet they seem to have turned it more competitive than ever

Reason I put it out there is a few Forum members have mentioned they are / were teachers ...just trying to get advice /help ....maybe I'm reading it all wrong

We have an appointment next week at the school ....any help with what I should be asking of the school would be fabulous

I sometimes question what I'm getting for my 12 k a year ??

I spent a lot of my life as a teacher in primary schools so don't really know what is going on with the atar system but could chat to a couple of friends who are high school teachers to try and find out what the deal is if you would like?

I had a funny feeling you had mentioned you were a teacher

I don't have a great deal of confidence in my kids school ....my wife does ...but she has started to see my POV ...but I'd never drag the young fella out now starting Year 11 ....I went through the same and it was very hard

I think I'd rather find a very good tutor to help

What I find is that dedication and hard work overcome most of the disadvantages including the quality of the school. Kids that work hard will usually overcome even a poor teacher and even if that fails there are ways into uni that do not rely on your high school results.

I had a very difficult time during my HSC year at school including dealing with a sexual assault and a number of friends that committed suicide including a friend that put his car into a tree the day before my final exams and included blaming me in his suicide note. I did not achieve the results I wanted or was capable of in my HSC and missed out on getting into uni. I decided to do a course at TAFE for 12 months and then used that to gain entry into university.

All I am saying is too much pressure is placed on kids over their HSC, it is not the be all and end all it is made out to be. No matter the results there are other ways into uni that usually rely on hard work and dedication to what someone is trying to achieve.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

What’s your argument, I don’t quite understand your point sorry ?

Ok an example

So to try and work out what grades the kids need to get the ATAR they need to get into the Uni choice ...there is absolutely nothing on it anywhere

Yet when I (we perhaps ) went to school you had an idea based on your current grades what you TE , OP etc score would be within a range

So you need .59 to do BA for example .....what grades do you need to get it

And the next point is many kids have no idea what they want to do at this point (year 10 )

I thought the idea was to lessen the pressure on kids at exam time .....yet they seem to have turned it more competitive than ever

Reason I put it out there is a few Forum members have mentioned they are / were teachers ...just trying to get advice /help ....maybe I'm reading it all wrong

We have an appointment next week at the school ....any help with what I should be asking of the school would be fabulous

I sometimes question what I'm getting for my 12 k a year ??

I spent a lot of my life as a teacher in primary schools so don't really know what is going on with the atar system but could chat to a couple of friends who are high school teachers to try and find out what the deal is if you would like?

I had a funny feeling you had mentioned you were a teacher

I don't have a great deal of confidence in my kids school ....my wife does ...but she has started to see my POV ...but I'd never drag the young fella out now starting Year 11 ....I went through the same and it was very hard

I think I'd rather find a very good tutor to help

What I find is that dedication and hard work overcome most of the disadvantages including the quality of the school. Kids that work hard will usually overcome even a poor teacher and even if that fails there are ways into uni that do not rely on your high school results.

I had a very difficult time during my HSC year at school including dealing with a sexual assault and a number of friends that committed suicide including a friend that put his car into a tree the day before my final exams and included blaming me in his suicide note. I did not achieve the results I wanted or was capable of in my HSC and missed out on getting into uni. I decided to do a course at TAFE for 12 months and then used that to gain entry into university.

All I am saying is too much pressure is placed on kids over their HSC, it is not the be all and end all it is made out to be. No matter the results there are other ways into uni that usually rely on hard work and dedication to what someone is trying to achieve.

Wow! Amazing story and a very good message mate

 

[happy_tiger]

What’s your argument, I don’t quite understand your point sorry ?

Ok an example

So to try and work out what grades the kids need to get the ATAR they need to get into the Uni choice ...there is absolutely nothing on it anywhere

Yet when I (we perhaps ) went to school you had an idea based on your current grades what you TE , OP etc score would be within a range

So you need .59 to do BA for example .....what grades do you need to get it

And the next point is many kids have no idea what they want to do at this point (year 10 )

I thought the idea was to lessen the pressure on kids at exam time .....yet they seem to have turned it more competitive than ever

Reason I put it out there is a few Forum members have mentioned they are / were teachers ...just trying to get advice /help ....maybe I'm reading it all wrong

We have an appointment next week at the school ....any help with what I should be asking of the school would be fabulous

I sometimes question what I'm getting for my 12 k a year ??

I spent a lot of my life as a teacher in primary schools so don't really know what is going on with the atar system but could chat to a couple of friends who are high school teachers to try and find out what the deal is if you would like?

I had a funny feeling you had mentioned you were a teacher

I don't have a great deal of confidence in my kids school ....my wife does ...but she has started to see my POV ...but I'd never drag the young fella out now starting Year 11 ....I went through the same and it was very hard

I think I'd rather find a very good tutor to help

What I find is that dedication and hard work overcome most of the disadvantages including the quality of the school. Kids that work hard will usually overcome even a poor teacher and even if that fails there are ways into uni that do not rely on your high school results.

I had a very difficult time during my HSC year at school including dealing with a sexual assault and a number of friends that committed suicide including a friend that put his car into a tree the day before my final exams and included blaming me in his suicide note. I did not achieve the results I wanted or was capable of in my HSC and missed out on getting into uni. I decided to do a course at TAFE for 12 months and then used that to gain entry into university.

All I am saying is too much pressure is placed on kids over their HSC, it is not the be all and end all it is made out to be. No matter the results there are other ways into uni that usually rely on hard work and dedication to what someone is trying to achieve.

Bloody hell .....not good mate

 

[TheDaBoss]

What’s your argument, I don’t quite understand your point sorry ?

Ok an example

So to try and work out what grades the kids need to get the ATAR they need to get into the Uni choice ...there is absolutely nothing on it anywhere

Yet when I (we perhaps ) went to school you had an idea based on your current grades what you TE , OP etc score would be within a range

So you need .59 to do BA for example .....what grades do you need to get it

And the next point is many kids have no idea what they want to do at this point (year 10 )

I thought the idea was to lessen the pressure on kids at exam time .....yet they seem to have turned it more competitive than ever

Reason I put it out there is a few Forum members have mentioned they are / were teachers ...just trying to get advice /help ....maybe I'm reading it all wrong

We have an appointment next week at the school ....any help with what I should be asking of the school would be fabulous

I sometimes question what I'm getting for my 12 k a year ??

I spent a lot of my life as a teacher in primary schools so don't really know what is going on with the atar system but could chat to a couple of friends who are high school teachers to try and find out what the deal is if you would like?

I had a funny feeling you had mentioned you were a teacher

I don't have a great deal of confidence in my kids school ....my wife does ...but she has started to see my POV ...but I'd never drag the young fella out now starting Year 11 ....I went through the same and it was very hard

I think I'd rather find a very good tutor to help

What I find is that dedication and hard work overcome most of the disadvantages including the quality of the school. Kids that work hard will usually overcome even a poor teacher and even if that fails there are ways into uni that do not rely on your high school results.

I had a very difficult time during my HSC year at school including dealing with a sexual assault and a number of friends that committed suicide including a friend that put his car into a tree the day before my final exams and included blaming me in his suicide note. I did not achieve the results I wanted or was capable of in my HSC and missed out on getting into uni. I decided to do a course at TAFE for 12 months and then used that to gain entry into university.

All I am saying is too much pressure is placed on kids over their HSC, it is not the be all and end all it is made out to be. No matter the results there are other ways into uni that usually rely on hard work and dedication to what someone is trying to achieve.

Im other countries like england, they dont have anything like a HSC, i was speaking to one of my mates from there, its literally no pressure like here

 

[cochise]

What’s your argument, I don’t quite understand your point sorry ?

Ok an example

So to try and work out what grades the kids need to get the ATAR they need to get into the Uni choice ...there is absolutely nothing on it anywhere

Yet when I (we perhaps ) went to school you had an idea based on your current grades what you TE , OP etc score would be within a range

So you need .59 to do BA for example .....what grades do you need to get it

And the next point is many kids have no idea what they want to do at this point (year 10 )

I thought the idea was to lessen the pressure on kids at exam time .....yet they seem to have turned it more competitive than ever

Reason I put it out there is a few Forum members have mentioned they are / were teachers ...just trying to get advice /help ....maybe I'm reading it all wrong

We have an appointment next week at the school ....any help with what I should be asking of the school would be fabulous

I sometimes question what I'm getting for my 12 k a year ??

I spent a lot of my life as a teacher in primary schools so don't really know what is going on with the atar system but could chat to a couple of friends who are high school teachers to try and find out what the deal is if you would like?

I had a funny feeling you had mentioned you were a teacher

I don't have a great deal of confidence in my kids school ....my wife does ...but she has started to see my POV ...but I'd never drag the young fella out now starting Year 11 ....I went through the same and it was very hard

I think I'd rather find a very good tutor to help

What I find is that dedication and hard work overcome most of the disadvantages including the quality of the school. Kids that work hard will usually overcome even a poor teacher and even if that fails there are ways into uni that do not rely on your high school results.

I had a very difficult time during my HSC year at school including dealing with a sexual assault and a number of friends that committed suicide including a friend that put his car into a tree the day before my final exams and included blaming me in his suicide note. I did not achieve the results I wanted or was capable of in my HSC and missed out on getting into uni. I decided to do a course at TAFE for 12 months and then used that to gain entry into university.

All I am saying is too much pressure is placed on kids over their HSC, it is not the be all and end all it is made out to be. No matter the results there are other ways into uni that usually rely on hard work and dedication to what someone is trying to achieve.

Bloody hell .....not good mate

Yeah it was crap, but in saying that it didn't stop me from obtaining the career I wanted. All I am saying is support your kids fully throughout the HSC but make sure they know that no matter what happens there are ways to achieve whatever it is they are striving for, it may be a little harder or take a bit longer but no matter what happens in their HSC it is not the end of the road.

 

[cochise]

What’s your argument, I don’t quite understand your point sorry ?

Ok an example

So to try and work out what grades the kids need to get the ATAR they need to get into the Uni choice ...there is absolutely nothing on it anywhere

Yet when I (we perhaps ) went to school you had an idea based on your current grades what you TE , OP etc score would be within a range

So you need .59 to do BA for example .....what grades do you need to get it

And the next point is many kids have no idea what they want to do at this point (year 10 )

I thought the idea was to lessen the pressure on kids at exam time .....yet they seem to have turned it more competitive than ever

Reason I put it out there is a few Forum members have mentioned they are / were teachers ...just trying to get advice /help ....maybe I'm reading it all wrong

We have an appointment next week at the school ....any help with what I should be asking of the school would be fabulous

I sometimes question what I'm getting for my 12 k a year ??

I spent a lot of my life as a teacher in primary schools so don't really know what is going on with the atar system but could chat to a couple of friends who are high school teachers to try and find out what the deal is if you would like?

I had a funny feeling you had mentioned you were a teacher

I don't have a great deal of confidence in my kids school ....my wife does ...but she has started to see my POV ...but I'd never drag the young fella out now starting Year 11 ....I went through the same and it was very hard

I think I'd rather find a very good tutor to help

What I find is that dedication and hard work overcome most of the disadvantages including the quality of the school. Kids that work hard will usually overcome even a poor teacher and even if that fails there are ways into uni that do not rely on your high school results.

I had a very difficult time during my HSC year at school including dealing with a sexual assault and a number of friends that committed suicide including a friend that put his car into a tree the day before my final exams and included blaming me in his suicide note. I did not achieve the results I wanted or was capable of in my HSC and missed out on getting into uni. I decided to do a course at TAFE for 12 months and then used that to gain entry into university.

All I am saying is too much pressure is placed on kids over their HSC, it is not the be all and end all it is made out to be. No matter the results there are other ways into uni that usually rely on hard work and dedication to what someone is trying to achieve.

Im other countries like england, they dont have anything like a HSC, i was speaking to one of my mates from there, its literally no pressure like here

The pressure we put on our kids is too much at times, kids need to know that there is a future despite what results they achieve.

 

[happy_tiger]

What’s your argument, I don’t quite understand your point sorry ?

Ok an example

So to try and work out what grades the kids need to get the ATAR they need to get into the Uni choice ...there is absolutely nothing on it anywhere

Yet when I (we perhaps ) went to school you had an idea based on your current grades what you TE , OP etc score would be within a range

So you need .59 to do BA for example .....what grades do you need to get it

And the next point is many kids have no idea what they want to do at this point (year 10 )

I thought the idea was to lessen the pressure on kids at exam time .....yet they seem to have turned it more competitive than ever

Reason I put it out there is a few Forum members have mentioned they are / were teachers ...just trying to get advice /help ....maybe I'm reading it all wrong

We have an appointment next week at the school ....any help with what I should be asking of the school would be fabulous

I sometimes question what I'm getting for my 12 k a year ??

I spent a lot of my life as a teacher in primary schools so don't really know what is going on with the atar system but could chat to a couple of friends who are high school teachers to try and find out what the deal is if you would like?

I had a funny feeling you had mentioned you were a teacher

I don't have a great deal of confidence in my kids school ....my wife does ...but she has started to see my POV ...but I'd never drag the young fella out now starting Year 11 ....I went through the same and it was very hard

I think I'd rather find a very good tutor to help

What I find is that dedication and hard work overcome most of the disadvantages including the quality of the school. Kids that work hard will usually overcome even a poor teacher and even if that fails there are ways into uni that do not rely on your high school results.

I had a very difficult time during my HSC year at school including dealing with a sexual assault and a number of friends that committed suicide including a friend that put his car into a tree the day before my final exams and included blaming me in his suicide note. I did not achieve the results I wanted or was capable of in my HSC and missed out on getting into uni. I decided to do a course at TAFE for 12 months and then used that to gain entry into university.

All I am saying is too much pressure is placed on kids over their HSC, it is not the be all and end all it is made out to be. No matter the results there are other ways into uni that usually rely on hard work and dedication to what someone is trying to achieve.

Bloody hell .....not good mate

Yeah it was crap, but in saying that it didn't stop me from obtaining the career I wanted. All I am saying is support your kids fully throughout the HSC but make sure they know that no matter what happens there are ways to achieve whatever it is they are striving for, it may be a little harder or take a bit longer but no matter what happens in their HSC it is not the end of the road.

You just get frustrated when you give him help with an assignment ( you go outside and do some stuff ) and he has decided to jump back on Xbox and not finish assignment when you get back in

 

[TheDaBoss]

What’s your argument, I don’t quite understand your point sorry ?

Ok an example

So to try and work out what grades the kids need to get the ATAR they need to get into the Uni choice ...there is absolutely nothing on it anywhere

Yet when I (we perhaps ) went to school you had an idea based on your current grades what you TE , OP etc score would be within a range

So you need .59 to do BA for example .....what grades do you need to get it

And the next point is many kids have no idea what they want to do at this point (year 10 )

I thought the idea was to lessen the pressure on kids at exam time .....yet they seem to have turned it more competitive than ever

Reason I put it out there is a few Forum members have mentioned they are / were teachers ...just trying to get advice /help ....maybe I'm reading it all wrong

We have an appointment next week at the school ....any help with what I should be asking of the school would be fabulous

I sometimes question what I'm getting for my 12 k a year ??

I spent a lot of my life as a teacher in primary schools so don't really know what is going on with the atar system but could chat to a couple of friends who are high school teachers to try and find out what the deal is if you would like?

I had a funny feeling you had mentioned you were a teacher

I don't have a great deal of confidence in my kids school ....my wife does ...but she has started to see my POV ...but I'd never drag the young fella out now starting Year 11 ....I went through the same and it was very hard

I think I'd rather find a very good tutor to help

What I find is that dedication and hard work overcome most of the disadvantages including the quality of the school. Kids that work hard will usually overcome even a poor teacher and even if that fails there are ways into uni that do not rely on your high school results.

I had a very difficult time during my HSC year at school including dealing with a sexual assault and a number of friends that committed suicide including a friend that put his car into a tree the day before my final exams and included blaming me in his suicide note. I did not achieve the results I wanted or was capable of in my HSC and missed out on getting into uni. I decided to do a course at TAFE for 12 months and then used that to gain entry into university.

All I am saying is too much pressure is placed on kids over their HSC, it is not the be all and end all it is made out to be. No matter the results there are other ways into uni that usually rely on hard work and dedication to what someone is trying to achieve.

Im other countries like england, they dont have anything like a HSC, i was speaking to one of my mates from there, its literally no pressure like here

The pressure we put on our kids is too much at times, kids need to know that there is a future despite what results they achieve.

One of my siblings finished about 2 years ago, snd she can't even remember any of her HSC scores, she wasnt even affected by them in the slightest either when finding somewhere to work

 

[cochise]

What’s your argument, I don’t quite understand your point sorry ?

Ok an example

So to try and work out what grades the kids need to get the ATAR they need to get into the Uni choice ...there is absolutely nothing on it anywhere

Yet when I (we perhaps ) went to school you had an idea based on your current grades what you TE , OP etc score would be within a range

So you need .59 to do BA for example .....what grades do you need to get it

And the next point is many kids have no idea what they want to do at this point (year 10 )

I thought the idea was to lessen the pressure on kids at exam time .....yet they seem to have turned it more competitive than ever

Reason I put it out there is a few Forum members have mentioned they are / were teachers ...just trying to get advice /help ....maybe I'm reading it all wrong

We have an appointment next week at the school ....any help with what I should be asking of the school would be fabulous

I sometimes question what I'm getting for my 12 k a year ??

I spent a lot of my life as a teacher in primary schools so don't really know what is going on with the atar system but could chat to a couple of friends who are high school teachers to try and find out what the deal is if you would like?

I had a funny feeling you had mentioned you were a teacher

I don't have a great deal of confidence in my kids school ....my wife does ...but she has started to see my POV ...but I'd never drag the young fella out now starting Year 11 ....I went through the same and it was very hard

I think I'd rather find a very good tutor to help

What I find is that dedication and hard work overcome most of the disadvantages including the quality of the school. Kids that work hard will usually overcome even a poor teacher and even if that fails there are ways into uni that do not rely on your high school results.

I had a very difficult time during my HSC year at school including dealing with a sexual assault and a number of friends that committed suicide including a friend that put his car into a tree the day before my final exams and included blaming me in his suicide note. I did not achieve the results I wanted or was capable of in my HSC and missed out on getting into uni. I decided to do a course at TAFE for 12 months and then used that to gain entry into university.

All I am saying is too much pressure is placed on kids over their HSC, it is not the be all and end all it is made out to be. No matter the results there are other ways into uni that usually rely on hard work and dedication to what someone is trying to achieve.

Im other countries like england, they dont have anything like a HSC, i was speaking to one of my mates from there, its literally no pressure like here

The pressure we put on our kids is too much at times, kids need to know that there is a future despite what results they achieve.

One of my siblings finished about 2 years ago, snd she can't even remember any of her HSC scores, she wasnt even affected by them in the slightest either when finding somewhere to work

Yeah they are only really useful for gaining entry to uni, and even then there are other ways to get in.

 

[cochise]

What’s your argument, I don’t quite understand your point sorry ?

Ok an example

So to try and work out what grades the kids need to get the ATAR they need to get into the Uni choice ...there is absolutely nothing on it anywhere

Yet when I (we perhaps ) went to school you had an idea based on your current grades what you TE , OP etc score would be within a range

So you need .59 to do BA for example .....what grades do you need to get it

And the next point is many kids have no idea what they want to do at this point (year 10 )

I thought the idea was to lessen the pressure on kids at exam time .....yet they seem to have turned it more competitive than ever

Reason I put it out there is a few Forum members have mentioned they are / were teachers ...just trying to get advice /help ....maybe I'm reading it all wrong

We have an appointment next week at the school ....any help with what I should be asking of the school would be fabulous

I sometimes question what I'm getting for my 12 k a year ??

I spent a lot of my life as a teacher in primary schools so don't really know what is going on with the atar system but could chat to a couple of friends who are high school teachers to try and find out what the deal is if you would like?

I had a funny feeling you had mentioned you were a teacher

I don't have a great deal of confidence in my kids school ....my wife does ...but she has started to see my POV ...but I'd never drag the young fella out now starting Year 11 ....I went through the same and it was very hard

I think I'd rather find a very good tutor to help

What I find is that dedication and hard work overcome most of the disadvantages including the quality of the school. Kids that work hard will usually overcome even a poor teacher and even if that fails there are ways into uni that do not rely on your high school results.

I had a very difficult time during my HSC year at school including dealing with a sexual assault and a number of friends that committed suicide including a friend that put his car into a tree the day before my final exams and included blaming me in his suicide note. I did not achieve the results I wanted or was capable of in my HSC and missed out on getting into uni. I decided to do a course at TAFE for 12 months and then used that to gain entry into university.

All I am saying is too much pressure is placed on kids over their HSC, it is not the be all and end all it is made out to be. No matter the results there are other ways into uni that usually rely on hard work and dedication to what someone is trying to achieve.

Bloody hell .....not good mate

Yeah it was crap, but in saying that it didn't stop me from obtaining the career I wanted. All I am saying is support your kids fully throughout the HSC but make sure they know that no matter what happens there are ways to achieve whatever it is they are striving for, it may be a little harder or take a bit longer but no matter what happens in their HSC it is not the end of the road.

You just get frustrated when you give him help with an assignment ( you go outside and do some stuff ) and he has decided to jump back on Xbox and not finish assignment when you get back in

That is teenagers mate, it is such an early age to be making such big life choices. Its hard to be motivated but working hard for the HSC when you are still undecided about what you want to do.

 

[TSupps05]

I'm in Year 12 this year and am doing my trials at the moment. All i can say is that there is alot of pressure to perform, but the HSC does reward effort. If you do your allocated work and a little bit more you will do well.

I heard someone talking about rank and that if you flunk out in the HSC but do well in the school assessments you are alright, well that is not entirely the case, and that is why people 'clock off' and think it is all over. If you flunk the HSC that's 50% of your total marks.

 

[Madge]

@cochise great story.. and you are 100% correct. There are multiple pathways that one can take if they want to achieve their dream career.

 

[Madge]

@TSupps05 Like you said, that is not true. You have to take into consideration scaling. Your mark is irrelevant, if the rest of the state flunked the HSC as well. The school should do their kids a favour and increase the difficultly of the internal examinations such that when the HSC exam comes, they are used to the intensity and pressure of the exam and will hopefully perform. If your school performs better as a whole in the HSC examination than the internal exams, NESA automatically come to the conclusion that the internals were hard hence why the marks for the internal are lower than the final exam. This scales quite a bit.

 

[Madge]

For those sitting their HSC exams this year, I wish you all the best. Knowing what’s needed to do is very easy, doing it is the hard part. To be frank, it’s a simple formula, hard work = results. Commitment is key. Create a realistic and achievable plan for each day and each week.

Pressure is good, to much of it can take over you and that’s when you feel the negative effects of pressure. As Cochise said, it is not the be all end all. At the same time, don’t get complacent and let that get to you. You got this, just work hard. All the best.

 

[Marshall_magic]

I'm in Year 12 this year and am doing my trials at the moment. All i can say is that there is alot of pressure to perform, but the HSC does reward effort. If you do your allocated work and a little bit more you will do well.

I heard someone talking about rank and that if you flunk out in the HSC but do well in the school assessments you are alright, well that is not entirely the case, and that is why people 'clock off' and think it is all over. If you flunk the HSC that's 50% of your total marks.

Doing well over the year and getting a good internal score will protect you. If you have a bad day in the external will be partially negated. Let's say you score 80 on the internal, then in the external only put up a 60, your final score will be a 70 which isn't too bad at all. The cumulative score for class will be the same in the internal and external side of things.

The best thing the HSC will teach you is to work hard and deal with a stressful situation. Take it seriously, and give it your best, but if you don't get the results you want don't worry, it's not the end of the world. If you do get the results you want then take it as a reward for your effort and hard work.

 

[old_man_tiger]

@happy_tiger Thanks for the rundown. We all got scaled pretty heavily from what we could tell in 2001. Maybe they have changed the way they do that?

FWIW, I work in a uni and see a lot of kids who end up with massive education bills that aren't employable even at masters level. I'm doing my second postgraduate degree and am absolutely shocked that this time around the faculty I'm in as a student (different to the one I work in) seems totally dependant on international students. The overall experience is actually quite poor academically.

I'm very worried about the quality of mid range Australian unis and unless your kid's are keen on a first career in something that needs a degree, I'd say that getting real work experience and a trade is seriously underrated. I hope government works out a better way to allocate funds over the next few years... I feel for the bright kids entering tertiary education where they are increasingly treated like paying customers and less like students.

 

[Milky]

HSC is nothing...

I finished my HSC 3 years ago...

Got 75 i think...Got into a course that required a 97 ATAR...

Its a guide, not a requirement.

My advice is not to stress and just try your best. If you want to achieve something you will achieve it one way or another.

 

[cochise]

@happy_tiger Thanks for the rundown. We all got scaled pretty heavily from what we could tell in 2001. Maybe they have changed the way they do that?

FWIW, I work in a uni and see a lot of kids who end up with massive education bills that aren't employable even at masters level. I'm doing my second postgraduate degree and am absolutely shocked that this time around the faculty I'm in as a student (different to the one I work in) seems totally dependant on international students. The overall experience is actually quite poor academically.

I'm very worried about the quality of mid range Australian unis and unless your kid's are keen on a first career in something that needs a degree, I'd say that getting real work experience and a trade is seriously underrated. I hope government works out a better way to allocate funds over the next few years... I feel for the bright kids entering tertiary education where they are increasingly treated like paying customers and less like students.

Getting rid of compulsory student unions has really damaged Australian Universities in my opinion!