The NRL Salary Cap

Chris

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With all these player movements happening in our backyard I just wanted to say that people can blame whoever they like about players coming or going but the cold hard facts are that the mechanics of the salary cap in it's current form is the reason behind all these player movments.

Let me use Adam Blair as an example.

He has been with the Storm since he was 17\. The Storm did all the hard work in scouting him, developing him through their junior grades and bringing him through into the top grade. He's come to the end of his current deal and on his form he deserves an increased contract. The Storm want to keep him, he wants to stay but unfortunately for Adam Blair and the Storm, all the money and time they spent into developing Adam Blair as a footballer is now wasted because it looks as though the Wests Tigers will be enjoying the fruits of Melbourne's hard work.

How is this right for the player who prefers to stay where he is, the club who did all the work into developing him, the Storm fans who have grown to love him and the game? It's not right is it?

It's sad that in this day and age that one club players are a rarity. Gone are the days when a young boy or girl admires a player who plays for their favourite team. The way the salary cap is set up now, the hearts of the little boys and girls who love Adam Blair will be disappointed when he leaves their favourite club Melbourne to play for someone else because of a set of rules.

The only way to make something so wrong into something so right is to exempt a player like Adam Blair from the Melbourne Storm's salary cap. I think clubs like Melbourne who have brought players like Adam along from their junior grades along into first grade should be rewarded for their hard work. Players like Adam Blair should be exempt from the cap and The Storm should be entitled to pay whatever they think Adam Blair is worth. In saying that, I believe the NRL should lower the salary cap to prevent other clubs from stealing players like Adam Blair and forcing clubs into throwing all their resources into junior programs. Of course there would have to be a set of rules and a structure put into place to make sure NRL clubs dont exploit talented kids that they may discover.

How will this benefit the player, club and the game?

The player will get to be a one club player and will get to stay where he wants to spend his entire career. The club will enjoy the fruits of their hard labour and make it all worth while for their investment. The fans will be able to enjoy having their favourite players stay at their favourite club. As well as that, it will force clubs into scouting young kids and make it harder for other codes like AFL and Rugby to steal these special talents from us. It could also help stem the flow of players leaving here to play in the UK. It's win/ win situation for all.
 
Well said mate… Personaly, I see the Salary Cap rewarding poorly managed NRL Franchises and also allowing certain clubs to do nothing for Grass Roots Football...

The ARL has been a joke, and have fooled many people for over 20 years!!!
 
Spot on Chris.

Just as Watto summarized, Cronulla is going to, as has directly in previous years, from the salary cap.

I really hope once the IC come in take the AFL approach and take one look at the profitability of clubs and shifting a few of the dead weighters.

Both entities prior to the formation of our great club sacrificed alot to ensure we had a club to represent us. How is it that Cronulla and Manly can plead broke and be accommodated?!

We had to merge, Illawarra "merged" with St George and Norths disappeared altogether.

Time to cut this dead wood!
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I e-mailed Stephen Humphreys and here's what he had to say….

Stephen Humphreys wrote:
Hi Chris
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Thanks for taking the time to share with me your thoughts on the Salary Cap.
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I agree with you that there needs to be more recognition within the mechanics of the Cap for the time, effort and expense incurred by Clubs in the development of their Junior players. I certainly made this point and suggested a couple of ways that the Cap model could be adapted for this purpose when Clubs were asked to submit ideas to improve the Cap last year. At this stage, though, the Clubs and the NRL are not in agreement on this subject. I can assure you, however, that I will continue to lobby for the kind of change that you are advocating.
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Thanks again for your note and your continued membership of Wests Tigers.
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Kind Regards
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Stephen
 
theres only 1 club that does nothing for grass roots and thats the roosters.

yeah lets get rid of the salary cap so brisbane dogs roosters can dominate the comp again.Look at manly raiding wests players in the 70s 80s roosters raiding everyones best players….yeah good move that would be....It gave teams like us and the middle of the road teams in financial terms a chance to compete.

Chris that is nice of steve to answer your email many would just ignore it or unless he has that message saved on his computer somewhere.lol
 
@tiger4ever said:
theres only 1 club that does nothing for grass roots and thats the roosters.

**yeah lets get rid of the salary cap so brisbane dogs roosters can dominate the comp again.Look at manly raiding wests players in the 70s 80s roosters raiding everyones best players….yeah good move that would be....It gave teams like us and the middle of the road teams in financial terms a chance to compete.**

Chris that is nice of steve to answer your email many would just ignore it or unless he has that message saved on his computer somewhere.lol

If you read what I wrote carefully, you'll see that I said exempt players that were brought through a club's junior ranks from the cap so the club can keep them and lower the figure of the salary cap to stop other clubs from stealing players. My system would force clubs to nurture juniors not raid other clubs.
 
@Chris said:
@tiger4ever said:
theres only 1 club that does nothing for grass roots and thats the roosters.

**yeah lets get rid of the salary cap so brisbane dogs roosters can dominate the comp again.Look at manly raiding wests players in the 70s 80s roosters raiding everyones best players….yeah good move that would be....It gave teams like us and the middle of the road teams in financial terms a chance to compete.**

Chris that is nice of steve to answer your email many would just ignore it or unless he has that message saved on his computer somewhere.lol

If you read what I wrote carefully, you'll see that I said exempt players that were brought through a club's junior ranks from the cap so the club can keep them and lower the figure of the salary cap to stop other clubs from stealing players. My system would force clubs to nurture juniors not raid other clubs.

Sorry chris im guilty i didnt read it properly my aplogies.But that has been spoken about for years now its not a new idea or anything

All clubs are losing juniors but without a cap on spending it would be alot worse for a team like ours. :crazy :bulb:
 
Strangely, the "ten-year player" concession argument actually benefits our club. Essentially those clubs with the largest junior nurseries would dominate the competition. Wests and clubs such as Brisbane and Newcastle would have the ability to hoard juniors. Sure, some would get poached,but essentially these clubs could keep 20 odd quality players from juniors to retirement.

I do agree with the bogan and have argued this in other posts. Our two foundation clubs made a sacrifice for the betterment of the game. Manly and cronulla are living off our sacrifice. Hopefully with a massive tv deal, the independent commission, money comes on the table for more Sydney team mergers.
 
melbourne could have kept blair if they really wanted to. they could have chosen to re-sign him instead of one or some of the other players in their squad. we shouldnt get rid of the salary cap. maybe it should be increased a bit though.
 
Chris I totally agree but the issue is What will happen then . The clubs with the most money will buy the most talented juniors and leave the scraps to the other clubs less fortunate . I think we need to look into third party deals and make them more accessible to the players , not the clubs . So the players would be able to wear there own sponsors logos on jerseys , pants and socks even (so long as they did not interfere with club sposorships) . Maybe its worth a thought ??
 
My idea isn't rock solid perfect, no doubt about that. I do , however, think that the concept would be better for the game than what have at the moment in my opinion.
 
If the Cap stays, it must be increased to be fair for the progressive clubs. In it's current state, it only helps the poorly run clubs… Some of you confuse wealth with greed and make statements like 'poor clubs will be hindered'... The reason some clubs are in financial striff is because they are poorly run, or they are trying to compete in a saturated marketplace which reduces their traffic generators and revenue as a result. Why should they be protected? If the go bust, they can go back to NSW Cup/Qld Cup to keep thier existence/heritage until such time they become financial to re-enter the Elite Competition.

The current 3rd Party Scenario is becoming a joke, and it needs to go. It is being rorted by many clubs for to long and only half of the 3rd party deals are transparent.

With what Chris has written, he is looking at ways to protect clubs who develop local juniors. Why not introduce a Structured Transfer System? If the Roosters want to buy Robbie Farah, they will need to pay the Club a Transfer Fee, in turn allowing the Club a new Revenue Stream to remain financial and competitive in an increased Salary Cap environment.

I bet ALL clubs will change the way they look at junior development!
 
If we lose the cap we will be one of the first clubs to go. The same clubs win the comp each year the fans of the bottom clubs disappear and ther clubs eventually go.

The cap keeps the comp fiar and even. We are feeling the impact for the first time really but we will survive.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
If the Cap stays, it must be increased to be fair for the progressive clubs. In it's current state, it only helps the poorly run clubs… Some of you confuse wealth with greed and make statements like 'poor clubs will be hindered'... The reason some clubs are in financial striff is because they are poorly run, or they are trying to compete in a saturated marketplace which reduces their traffic generators and revenue as a result. Why should they be protected? If the go bust, they can go back to NSW Cup/Qld Cup to keep thier existence/heritage until such time they become financial to re-enter the Elite Competition.

The current 3rd Party Scenario is becoming a joke, and it needs to go. It is being rorted by many clubs for to long and only half of the 3rd party deals are transparent.

With what Chris has written, he is looking at ways to protect clubs who develop local juniors. Why not introduce a Structured Transfer System? If the Roosters want to buy Robbie Farah, they will need to pay the Club a Transfer Fee, in turn allowing the Club a new Revenue Stream to remain financial and competitive in an increased Salary Cap environment.

I bet ALL clubs will change the way they look at junior development!

Unfortunately, the transfer system has been found to be a RESTRAINT OF TRADE by the Clubs against the individual player. Those, who are really Balmain supporters will be well aware of Denis Tutty taking the old NSWRL (I think} to court and winning the case.

The only way the AFL retains their draft system is with the agreement of their players association. For a transfer system to exist in the NRL, you will need the players to agree to it through the players association. The following link gives some details:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Tutty
 
Yes no matter which way you look at it the system is going to be rorted in some way by the richer clubs cause nothing is perfect.

Keep it the way it is for the time been.All these ideas arent new at all they are old they been talking ABOUT IT FOR YEARS.

I agree with you mighty maggie we would be one of 6 clubs that would be under threat unless we went in the privatisation ….say for instance harry trigounoff

Having clubs spending the same money on players puts the ownus on clubs to plan and recruit the right players which would be a difficult job.
 

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