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@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461758) said:
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@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461713) said:
Excellent article. Don’t see how anyone could have an issue with it.

Where the article on all the other crap teams

No one else has missed out on finals for 10 years. We deserve these articles and I hope it prompts change of some kind.

And Pascoe should be kept away from the football department. What a disaster.

You see what happens when a Coach ie Voldemort is given full control of the football department and salary cap… that is what I call a disaster

The buck should stop with Hartigan. He should have control with input from the coach and sheens.

Hartigan is a myth too.

Disagree with you there. His ability to identify talent is very good, his issue is he’s with an undesirable club with a coach that’s a deterrent. He’s got a tough gig

Lol

It’s true, the young guys we’ve signed have been our best. The guys we’ve gone after but missed were good too. I concede the signings of Tamou and BJ were very poor though.

Coach isn't the problem.

Why the board re-sign madge those losers in front office have always been the issue and want you to believe it's the coach.

Of course he’s the problem. He can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. He’s too one dimensional.

He has a crap squad. Not he's fault the club blew their cap on crap players. Honestly when is someone apart from the coach going to take accountability.

Lee says he hasn't got bang for buck for his investment, well stuff you Mr gagget go back to brydens where you belong you little man. Look at the shit squad you left madge with. Just keep sacking coach after coach after coach .

I want to see accountability elsewhere before the coach for once.

Except for the fact when he was employed he stated he could work with the roster we had. Now apparently it is because he couldn't overturn the roster? Just another person defending their role in this article. At least Woods is man enough to take responsibility.
 
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461758) said:
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@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461738) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461734) said:
@gnr4life said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461731) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461730) said:
@geo said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461722) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461720) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461716) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461713) said:
Excellent article. Don’t see how anyone could have an issue with it.

Where the article on all the other crap teams

No one else has missed out on finals for 10 years. We deserve these articles and I hope it prompts change of some kind.

And Pascoe should be kept away from the football department. What a disaster.

You see what happens when a Coach ie Voldemort is given full control of the football department and salary cap… that is what I call a disaster

The buck should stop with Hartigan. He should have control with input from the coach and sheens.

Hartigan is a myth too.

Disagree with you there. His ability to identify talent is very good, his issue is he’s with an undesirable club with a coach that’s a deterrent. He’s got a tough gig

Lol

It’s true, the young guys we’ve signed have been our best. The guys we’ve gone after but missed were good too. I concede the signings of Tamou and BJ were very poor though.

Coach isn't the problem.

Why the board re-sign madge those losers in front office have always been the issue and want you to believe it's the coach.

Of course he’s the problem. He can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. He’s too one dimensional.

He has a crap squad. Not he's fault the club blew their cap on crap players. Honestly when is someone apart from the coach going to take accountability.

Lee says he hasn't got bang for buck for his investment, well stuff you Mr gagget go back to brydens where you belong you little man. Look at the shit squad you left madge with. Just keep sacking coach after coach after coach .

I want to see accountability elsewhere before the coach for once.

The roster is better than our results suggest and as has been discussed to death, 28 of the 30 this year were signed or re-signed by him. His problem is he can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. Sorry to say it but things won’t improve until he’s gone.
 
Its not a bad timeline of what happened, it is just every quote has a huge amount of bias applied.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461760) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461758) said:
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@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461741) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461738) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461734) said:
@gnr4life said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461731) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461730) said:
@geo said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461722) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461720) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461716) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461713) said:
Excellent article. Don’t see how anyone could have an issue with it.

Where the article on all the other crap teams

No one else has missed out on finals for 10 years. We deserve these articles and I hope it prompts change of some kind.

And Pascoe should be kept away from the football department. What a disaster.

You see what happens when a Coach ie Voldemort is given full control of the football department and salary cap… that is what I call a disaster

The buck should stop with Hartigan. He should have control with input from the coach and sheens.

Hartigan is a myth too.

Disagree with you there. His ability to identify talent is very good, his issue is he’s with an undesirable club with a coach that’s a deterrent. He’s got a tough gig

Lol

It’s true, the young guys we’ve signed have been our best. The guys we’ve gone after but missed were good too. I concede the signings of Tamou and BJ were very poor though.

Coach isn't the problem.

Why the board re-sign madge those losers in front office have always been the issue and want you to believe it's the coach.

Of course he’s the problem. He can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. He’s too one dimensional.

He has a crap squad. Not he's fault the club blew their cap on crap players. Honestly when is someone apart from the coach going to take accountability.

Lee says he hasn't got bang for buck for his investment, well stuff you Mr gagget go back to brydens where you belong you little man. Look at the shit squad you left madge with. Just keep sacking coach after coach after coach .

I want to see accountability elsewhere before the coach for once.

The roster is better than our results suggest and as has been discussed to death, 28 of the 30 this year were signed or re-signed by him. His problem is he can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. Sorry to say it but things won’t improve until he’s gone.

Ok mate just keep sacking coaches and you will you will happy
 
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461762) said:
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@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461741) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461738) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461734) said:
@gnr4life said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461731) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461730) said:
@geo said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461722) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461720) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461716) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461713) said:
Excellent article. Don’t see how anyone could have an issue with it.

Where the article on all the other crap teams

No one else has missed out on finals for 10 years. We deserve these articles and I hope it prompts change of some kind.

And Pascoe should be kept away from the football department. What a disaster.

You see what happens when a Coach ie Voldemort is given full control of the football department and salary cap… that is what I call a disaster

The buck should stop with Hartigan. He should have control with input from the coach and sheens.

Hartigan is a myth too.

Disagree with you there. His ability to identify talent is very good, his issue is he’s with an undesirable club with a coach that’s a deterrent. He’s got a tough gig

Lol

It’s true, the young guys we’ve signed have been our best. The guys we’ve gone after but missed were good too. I concede the signings of Tamou and BJ were very poor though.

Coach isn't the problem.

Why the board re-sign madge those losers in front office have always been the issue and want you to believe it's the coach.

Of course he’s the problem. He can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. He’s too one dimensional.

He has a crap squad. Not he's fault the club blew their cap on crap players. Honestly when is someone apart from the coach going to take accountability.

Lee says he hasn't got bang for buck for his investment, well stuff you Mr gagget go back to brydens where you belong you little man. Look at the shit squad you left madge with. Just keep sacking coach after coach after coach .

I want to see accountability elsewhere before the coach for once.

The roster is better than our results suggest and as has been discussed to death, 28 of the 30 this year were signed or re-signed by him. His problem is he can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. Sorry to say it but things won’t improve until he’s gone.

Ok mate just keep sacking coaches and you will you will happy

We’ve sacked one coach since 2013.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461763) said:
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@gnr4life said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461731) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461730) said:
@geo said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461722) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461720) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461716) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461713) said:
Excellent article. Don’t see how anyone could have an issue with it.

Where the article on all the other crap teams

No one else has missed out on finals for 10 years. We deserve these articles and I hope it prompts change of some kind.

And Pascoe should be kept away from the football department. What a disaster.

You see what happens when a Coach ie Voldemort is given full control of the football department and salary cap… that is what I call a disaster

The buck should stop with Hartigan. He should have control with input from the coach and sheens.

Hartigan is a myth too.

Disagree with you there. His ability to identify talent is very good, his issue is he’s with an undesirable club with a coach that’s a deterrent. He’s got a tough gig

Lol

It’s true, the young guys we’ve signed have been our best. The guys we’ve gone after but missed were good too. I concede the signings of Tamou and BJ were very poor though.

Coach isn't the problem.

Why the board re-sign madge those losers in front office have always been the issue and want you to believe it's the coach.

Of course he’s the problem. He can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. He’s too one dimensional.

He has a crap squad. Not he's fault the club blew their cap on crap players. Honestly when is someone apart from the coach going to take accountability.

Lee says he hasn't got bang for buck for his investment, well stuff you Mr gagget go back to brydens where you belong you little man. Look at the shit squad you left madge with. Just keep sacking coach after coach after coach .

I want to see accountability elsewhere before the coach for once.

The roster is better than our results suggest and as has been discussed to death, 28 of the 30 this year were signed or re-signed by him. His problem is he can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. Sorry to say it but things won’t improve until he’s gone.

Ok mate just keep sacking coaches and you will you will happy

We’ve sacked one coach since 2013.

How many board members or ceo have we sacked? They've already re signed him this year
 
@jirskyr said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461250) said:
@tiger-tragic said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461104) said:
But, if there’s not something like “the Roosters’ way”, as is often mentioned by them, then why are they so damn gritty, tough, resilient, brave and competitive? If it’s just a matter of a golf game with Uncle Nick paying out losing bets to players from the sombrero stash, they wouldn’t be like they are.
I think there is more to it about being a “Rooster” than you suggest and that can only be described in a story or narrative or shared-belief that guides the staff and players in how and why they do things the way they do them. And, it’s brought them a lot of success and respect.

Because Roosters buy up the best talent they can afford both as juniors and as seniors. The juniors they cook through their own systems - and they are good systems, I won't begrudge them that. But they spend a fortune on these developments and keep them locked in, then they go out and buy market-best players to top it all off.

Roosters take very good financial care of the players and their families. When Joey Manu was a teenager, Roosters used to fly him over from NZ on weekends to play in the Roosters junior teams. No surprise Joey Manu has loyalty to the club.

And how can anyone possibly overlook that the Roosters signed Luke Keary, James Tedesco and Cooper Cronk within the space of 12 months? That would be like Tigers going out and signing not just Tommy Turbo, but Cody Walker and Nathan Cleary for seasons 2022-23.

So if you look by comparison at top-tier football clubs like Man City or PSG, they are very very good sides, but they are good because they are stacked with elite-class players, and yes they have a drive and desire to win, but the club also supplies the best facilities, best rewards, best coaches. A contrast would be a club like Atalanta - very small budget and ordinary home facilities compare to the giants like Inter and Juventus, but they can truly claim to having a close-knit winning culture and a highly successful academy.

I think Melbourne Storm are much more the "gritty, brave, competitive" club you are talking about. Storm have to source 99.9% of players externally because they have very little local rugby league. Storm have excellent junior talent identification but they also take punts on developing-up fringe first-grades. For example Nicho Hynes is already 25, cut from Manly NYC and plucked from obscurity playing up in Mackay. Jahrome Hughes was signed by the Titans from the Roosters SG Ball, but only managed 2 FG games for Titans and Cowboys over 4 seasons, before picked up by Melbourne. Now both are two of Storm's most reliable spine talents.

Just look at the Roosters top-tier players:
- Tedesco - Camden and Tigers junior, pinched at his peak
- Luke Keary - Oakhill College rugby product, growing up in and being signed from QLD by Souths, playing 64 matches including a winning GF, before getting into a massive blue with Rusty Crowe and signing on with Roosters.
- JWH - Kiwi rugby product, schooling out of QLD and scouted by Manly, before being pinched by Roosters.
- Joey Manu - born and bred in NZ but scouted and brought over by Roosters
- Joseph Suaalii - long-term Souths prodigy who basically reneged on Souths then was courted by Roosters, who managed to secure exemptions to allow him to play early (and how surprising he got injured for the season).
- Angus Crichton - young rugby talent who actually played lower grades at Roosters, before being signed by Souths and coming to prominence with them; purchased by Roosters as a proven product.
- Taukeiaho - Kiwi product pinched from Warriors as a replacement for SBW.
- Lindsay Collins - Brisbane born and bred, pinched by Roosters from Broncos NYC.
- Sam Walker - 100% QLD product; his Dad never played for Roosters (one of his uncles did) but Broncos botched the deal that would have kept Walker in QLD.
- Victor Radley - legitimate all-Roosters product, from start to finish. There is one!
- Daniel Tupou - another arguable Roosters product, though they signed him after 2 years in Eels NYC.

So I do see a "Roosters Way". That "way" is to buy up everyone else's best players, then refine the product, releasing the ones that don't work out, until you have an emerging group of talent, on top of which you purchase the best few talents going around. You buy a very good coach and support him with the best talent and facilities that money can buy, and put him and all his players in touch with all the business heavies you can associate with, to bulk-up the Roosters "experience" where everything is taken care of for you, by people unofficially connected to the club.

Soulless. It has nothing to do with the old Easts that my grandmother followed, raised in Paddington, a fairly poor area but a club built on key foundational local players and administrators like Jersey Flegg, Dave Brown and Dally Messenger. Roosters aren't even "Easts" any more, they are just an oil-baron-style financial club who buy the best of the best from other areas.

The systems, and the mentality of the Melbourne storm is what i would want the WT to be, the examples you used about developing-up fringe first-grades , Nicho Hynes and. Jahrome Hughes is another additional proof of their strong systems.
 
The political side of the club that the article raises is why I worry about a rookie coach being appointed.
 
@cochise said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461767) said:
The political side of the club that the article raises is why I worry about a rookie coach being appointed.

This club is no place for a rookie coach.
 
@gnr4life said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461768) said:
@cochise said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461767) said:
The political side of the club that the article raises is why I worry about a rookie coach being appointed.

This club is no place for a rookie coach.

My thoughts exactly
 
@tigertownsfs said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461697) said:
@jayt said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461689) said:
@joeblock said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461680) said:
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/a-crisis-of-identity-the-real-tales-from-tiger-town-20210827-p58mm6.html

Picking over the scabs of our past, hopefully whatever lessons that were there to be learnt have been. But also hopefully whatever is media axe grinding in this article and all others out there is ignored.

I thought that was a good article, if tragic. Hope the club learns something.

This is a great article. Not clickbait or emotive but just a reasonable catalogue of the mistakes that most of us have watched the club make from the outside and shook our heads. Most readers probably don’t know the history like we do and just think we are a useless club when I reality we are not a useless club we have been let done by a series of mistakes dating back to our inception. We are a laughing stock today. The average rugby league fans views as a joke despite clubs like the bulldogs having won about 2 games in 2 years. We are perceived as a basket case but I think that we have actually moved on, we were a basket case 5 or 6 years ago but we are moving on and we just need the club leadership to stick on this path, support the coach, the recruitment staff and the players. And we need a bloody home ground to call our own. We don’t need to convince everyone else about our identity. We just need a home ground where these young players can play week in week out and win, create a culture and a reputation and an identity of their own.

I disagree. I think there is an obvious agenda in there. It is very pro madge. The break-up of his coaching record does not call out that it went off a cliff following souths premiership.

Infighting in the board is now history & no longer an excuse.

It has given previous coaches a stage to blame someone else. Taylor in particular.

There are a couple of very interesting quotes there:
JT: “The idea was to basically have Wehbe coach the team, and Pascoe saw that as a way to sign the players,” Taylor admits. “It should have been a simple path to sign them all up but they were all managed by the same person. It made the process more difficult.”

If true that leaves me with real concerns about Pascoe.

Woods: “I’m not proud of how things went down,” Woods tells the Herald. “At the time I thought what I was doing was right, but looking back I should’ve handled things differently.”

“I was the captain of the Wests Tigers. I grew up around the corner from Leichhardt Oval. I lost sight of what that meant and the responsibility I had continuing the legacy of the guys that came before me.

“I will always love the club. It kills me that we are sitting here today and the club still hasn’t played finals football. I didn’t wish that upon the club. It’s a club that should have its name up in lights, not people shitting on it all the time.”

Someone is in need of a contract.

Looking forward to part 2. Maguire's new nickname should be NMF - not my fault
 
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461764) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461763) said:
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@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461758) said:
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@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461738) said:
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@gnr4life said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461731) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461730) said:
@geo said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461722) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461720) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461716) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461713) said:
Excellent article. Don’t see how anyone could have an issue with it.

Where the article on all the other crap teams

No one else has missed out on finals for 10 years. We deserve these articles and I hope it prompts change of some kind.

And Pascoe should be kept away from the football department. What a disaster.

You see what happens when a Coach ie Voldemort is given full control of the football department and salary cap… that is what I call a disaster

The buck should stop with Hartigan. He should have control with input from the coach and sheens.

Hartigan is a myth too.

Disagree with you there. His ability to identify talent is very good, his issue is he’s with an undesirable club with a coach that’s a deterrent. He’s got a tough gig

Lol

It’s true, the young guys we’ve signed have been our best. The guys we’ve gone after but missed were good too. I concede the signings of Tamou and BJ were very poor though.

Coach isn't the problem.

Why the board re-sign madge those losers in front office have always been the issue and want you to believe it's the coach.

Of course he’s the problem. He can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. He’s too one dimensional.

He has a crap squad. Not he's fault the club blew their cap on crap players. Honestly when is someone apart from the coach going to take accountability.

Lee says he hasn't got bang for buck for his investment, well stuff you Mr gagget go back to brydens where you belong you little man. Look at the shit squad you left madge with. Just keep sacking coach after coach after coach .

I want to see accountability elsewhere before the coach for once.

The roster is better than our results suggest and as has been discussed to death, 28 of the 30 this year were signed or re-signed by him. His problem is he can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. Sorry to say it but things won’t improve until he’s gone.

Ok mate just keep sacking coaches and you will you will happy

We’ve sacked one coach since 2013.

How many board members or ceo have we sacked? They've already re signed him this year

I want all of them sacked too.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461771) said:
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@gnr4life said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461731) said:
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@geo said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461722) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461720) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461716) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461713) said:
Excellent article. Don’t see how anyone could have an issue with it.

Where the article on all the other crap teams

No one else has missed out on finals for 10 years. We deserve these articles and I hope it prompts change of some kind.

And Pascoe should be kept away from the football department. What a disaster.

You see what happens when a Coach ie Voldemort is given full control of the football department and salary cap… that is what I call a disaster

The buck should stop with Hartigan. He should have control with input from the coach and sheens.

Hartigan is a myth too.

Disagree with you there. His ability to identify talent is very good, his issue is he’s with an undesirable club with a coach that’s a deterrent. He’s got a tough gig

Lol

It’s true, the young guys we’ve signed have been our best. The guys we’ve gone after but missed were good too. I concede the signings of Tamou and BJ were very poor though.

Coach isn't the problem.

Why the board re-sign madge those losers in front office have always been the issue and want you to believe it's the coach.

Of course he’s the problem. He can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. He’s too one dimensional.

He has a crap squad. Not he's fault the club blew their cap on crap players. Honestly when is someone apart from the coach going to take accountability.

Lee says he hasn't got bang for buck for his investment, well stuff you Mr gagget go back to brydens where you belong you little man. Look at the shit squad you left madge with. Just keep sacking coach after coach after coach .

I want to see accountability elsewhere before the coach for once.

The roster is better than our results suggest and as has been discussed to death, 28 of the 30 this year were signed or re-signed by him. His problem is he can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. Sorry to say it but things won’t improve until he’s gone.

Ok mate just keep sacking coaches and you will you will happy

We’ve sacked one coach since 2013.

How many board members or ceo have we sacked? They've already re signed him this year

I want all of them sacked too.

@avocadoontoast and @Tiger_Steve to run the club.
 
@cochise said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461772) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461771) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461764) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461763) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461762) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461760) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461758) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461753) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461751) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461741) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461738) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461734) said:
@gnr4life said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461731) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461730) said:
@geo said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461722) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461720) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461716) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461713) said:
Excellent article. Don’t see how anyone could have an issue with it.

Where the article on all the other crap teams

No one else has missed out on finals for 10 years. We deserve these articles and I hope it prompts change of some kind.

And Pascoe should be kept away from the football department. What a disaster.

You see what happens when a Coach ie Voldemort is given full control of the football department and salary cap… that is what I call a disaster

The buck should stop with Hartigan. He should have control with input from the coach and sheens.

Hartigan is a myth too.

Disagree with you there. His ability to identify talent is very good, his issue is he’s with an undesirable club with a coach that’s a deterrent. He’s got a tough gig

Lol

It’s true, the young guys we’ve signed have been our best. The guys we’ve gone after but missed were good too. I concede the signings of Tamou and BJ were very poor though.

Coach isn't the problem.

Why the board re-sign madge those losers in front office have always been the issue and want you to believe it's the coach.

Of course he’s the problem. He can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. He’s too one dimensional.

He has a crap squad. Not he's fault the club blew their cap on crap players. Honestly when is someone apart from the coach going to take accountability.

Lee says he hasn't got bang for buck for his investment, well stuff you Mr gagget go back to brydens where you belong you little man. Look at the shit squad you left madge with. Just keep sacking coach after coach after coach .

I want to see accountability elsewhere before the coach for once.

The roster is better than our results suggest and as has been discussed to death, 28 of the 30 this year were signed or re-signed by him. His problem is he can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. Sorry to say it but things won’t improve until he’s gone.

Ok mate just keep sacking coaches and you will you will happy

We’ve sacked one coach since 2013.

How many board members or ceo have we sacked? They've already re signed him this year

I want all of them sacked too.

@avocadoontoast and @Tiger_Steve to run the club.

Let’s make it happen!
 
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461730) said:
@geo said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461722) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461720) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461716) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461713) said:
Excellent article. Don’t see how anyone could have an issue with it.

Where the article on all the other crap teams

No one else has missed out on finals for 10 years. We deserve these articles and I hope it prompts change of some kind.

And Pascoe should be kept away from the football department. What a disaster.

You see what happens when a Coach ie Voldemort is given full control of the football department and salary cap… that is what I call a disaster

The buck should stop with Hartigan. He should have control with input from the coach and sheens.

Hartigan was still at the Rorters when Voldemort and his buddy Egan were given full control of the football department and Salary Cap and not just bent it but blew it up…

It highlights the job Voldy truely did on our Club..

The fact they bought Hartigan in especially to control the Cap shows they have learnt.. yet people are now complaining that we can’t sign anyone cause we won’t pay ridiculous amounts for ridiculous lengths for players to come here and want his head for it as well.. go figure Wests Tigers Fans
 
A good article. Not having a go. Just presenting some uncomfortable and inconvenient truths. Stuff we all knew or suspected.interesting to hear the perspectives of former coaches and regrets from players. I’d like to see the full transcript from interviews.
 
@cochise said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461761) said:
Its not a bad timeline of what happened, it is just every quote has a huge amount of bias applied.

"A huge amount of bias applied"
Is that another way of saying its all not true?
I could be wrong but it sounds pretty accurate to me?
Cant wait for the next instalment LOL
 
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461776) said:
@cochise said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461772) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461771) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461764) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461763) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461762) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461760) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461758) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461753) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461751) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461741) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461738) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461734) said:
@gnr4life said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461731) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461730) said:
@geo said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461722) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461720) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461716) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461713) said:
Excellent article. Don’t see how anyone could have an issue with it.

Where the article on all the other crap teams

No one else has missed out on finals for 10 years. We deserve these articles and I hope it prompts change of some kind.

And Pascoe should be kept away from the football department. What a disaster.

You see what happens when a Coach ie Voldemort is given full control of the football department and salary cap… that is what I call a disaster

The buck should stop with Hartigan. He should have control with input from the coach and sheens.

Hartigan is a myth too.

Disagree with you there. His ability to identify talent is very good, his issue is he’s with an undesirable club with a coach that’s a deterrent. He’s got a tough gig

Lol

It’s true, the young guys we’ve signed have been our best. The guys we’ve gone after but missed were good too. I concede the signings of Tamou and BJ were very poor though.

Coach isn't the problem.

Why the board re-sign madge those losers in front office have always been the issue and want you to believe it's the coach.

Of course he’s the problem. He can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. He’s too one dimensional.

He has a crap squad. Not he's fault the club blew their cap on crap players. Honestly when is someone apart from the coach going to take accountability.

Lee says he hasn't got bang for buck for his investment, well stuff you Mr gagget go back to brydens where you belong you little man. Look at the shit squad you left madge with. Just keep sacking coach after coach after coach .

I want to see accountability elsewhere before the coach for once.

The roster is better than our results suggest and as has been discussed to death, 28 of the 30 this year were signed or re-signed by him. His problem is he can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. Sorry to say it but things won’t improve until he’s gone.

Ok mate just keep sacking coaches and you will you will happy

We’ve sacked one coach since 2013.

How many board members or ceo have we sacked? They've already re signed him this year

I want all of them sacked too.

@avocadoontoast and @Tiger_Steve to run the club.

Let’s make it happen!

In all honesty, I know @Tiger_Steve and would gladly have him on our board.
 
@twentyforty said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461779) said:
@cochise said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461761) said:
Its not a bad timeline of what happened, it is just every quote has a huge amount of bias applied.

"A huge amount of bias applied"
Is that another way of saying its all not true?
I could be wrong but it sounds pretty accurate to me?
Cant wait for the next instalment LOL

I guess it is all Woods' fault then, as he is the only one that took any responsibility in the entire article.
 
@cochise said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461780) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461776) said:
@cochise said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461772) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461771) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461764) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461763) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461762) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461760) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461758) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461753) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461751) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461741) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461738) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461734) said:
@gnr4life said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461731) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461730) said:
@geo said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461722) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461720) said:
@tony-soprano said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461716) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [The WT Identity](/post/1461713) said:
Excellent article. Don’t see how anyone could have an issue with it.

Where the article on all the other crap teams

No one else has missed out on finals for 10 years. We deserve these articles and I hope it prompts change of some kind.

And Pascoe should be kept away from the football department. What a disaster.

You see what happens when a Coach ie Voldemort is given full control of the football department and salary cap… that is what I call a disaster

The buck should stop with Hartigan. He should have control with input from the coach and sheens.

Hartigan is a myth too.

Disagree with you there. His ability to identify talent is very good, his issue is he’s with an undesirable club with a coach that’s a deterrent. He’s got a tough gig

Lol

It’s true, the young guys we’ve signed have been our best. The guys we’ve gone after but missed were good too. I concede the signings of Tamou and BJ were very poor though.

Coach isn't the problem.

Why the board re-sign madge those losers in front office have always been the issue and want you to believe it's the coach.

Of course he’s the problem. He can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. He’s too one dimensional.

He has a crap squad. Not he's fault the club blew their cap on crap players. Honestly when is someone apart from the coach going to take accountability.

Lee says he hasn't got bang for buck for his investment, well stuff you Mr gagget go back to brydens where you belong you little man. Look at the shit squad you left madge with. Just keep sacking coach after coach after coach .

I want to see accountability elsewhere before the coach for once.

The roster is better than our results suggest and as has been discussed to death, 28 of the 30 this year were signed or re-signed by him. His problem is he can’t adapt his coaching style to the players he has. Sorry to say it but things won’t improve until he’s gone.

Ok mate just keep sacking coaches and you will you will happy

We’ve sacked one coach since 2013.

How many board members or ceo have we sacked? They've already re signed him this year

I want all of them sacked too.

@avocadoontoast and @Tiger_Steve to run the club.

Let’s make it happen!

In all honesty, I know @Tiger_Steve and would gladly have him on our board.

He can be chairman, I’ll take the CEO role.
 

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