There is no bigger grub in the game

Slater should have walked away. The area outside a nightclub is not a football field, especially at 3am and representing your country..
 
@Irvine said:
@innsaneink said:
Id LOVE to see how you'd react to a ''harmless'' open palm to your face, outside a nightclub at 3 in the morning
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So if you got hit in the face for no reason you would just take it??
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mate if someone punched you outside a nightclub would you walk away or in the heat of the moment punch back.

You missed a few questions put to you, Irv

Thanks for pointing that out Ink.

If I was highly paid professional footballer with some intelligence … YES I would just take it and move on because I deal with it every day. It's part of being high profile and I get paid exceedingly well to catch a ball and move on.

YES If someone punched me again being a high profile sportsman I wouldn't smash him in the face. I would just take it.

Unfortunately Billy only knows how to "accidentally" kick someone in the throat..."accidentally" elbow a player on the ground. Abuse a player about his depression and be "taken out of context".

Then there is the James Graham biting incident....another innocent mishap.

It is a wise move to ''just walk away''

In reality however its not quite that easy, in a perfect world this would always occur but we all know where we live aint perfect
 
dont like slats but hes in the right here for sure. no question, very lucky with the video footage though. EXTREMMELY lucky
 
@innsaneink said:
@Irvine said:
@innsaneink said:
Id LOVE to see how you'd react to a ''harmless'' open palm to your face, outside a nightclub at 3 in the morning
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So if you got hit in the face for no reason you would just take it??
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mate if someone punched you outside a nightclub would you walk away or in the heat of the moment punch back.

You missed a few questions put to you, Irv

Thanks for pointing that out Ink.

If I was highly paid professional footballer with some intelligence … YES I would just take it and move on because I deal with it every day. It's part of being high profile and I get paid exceedingly well to catch a ball and move on.

YES If someone punched me again being a high profile sportsman I wouldn't smash him in the face. I would just take it.

Unfortunately Billy only knows how to "accidentally" kick someone in the throat..."accidentally" elbow a player on the ground. Abuse a player about his depression and be "taken out of context".

Then there is the James Graham biting incident....another innocent mishap.

It is a wise move to ''just walk away''

In reality however its not quite that easy, in a perfect world this would always occur but we all know where we live aint perfect

Too true. Slater overreacted. The bloke gently shoved him and then stands back, he definitely wasn't moving in to follow up on it and Slater has just dog-shotted him. The bouncer was standing right there so surely Slater didn't feel like his life was in too much danger. Hard to apportion blame in an incident like this but Slaters punch was more likely to do serious injury.
 
@Irvine said:
The other guy was waiting in line..watch the video.

Have you watched the video..that's not what happened.

http://www.theroar.com.au/2013/11/13/slater-could-be-the-luckiest-man-at-the-rugby-league-world-cup/
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Slater could be the luckiest man at Rugby League World Cup

Tim Prentice Columnist

By Tim Prentice, 13 Nov 2013

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Billy Slater is one lucky son-of-a-gun. Like everyone following the rugby league World Cup, I was disappointed to learn the Australian fullback had been involved in a late, late incident at a Manchester nightclub.

I heard (and watched) him being interviewed at length in the aftermath.

I have to say that I was somewhat relieved to hear he had been cleared of any serious wrong-doing and would be available to play for the Kangaroos against USA in Saturday’s quarter final.

And then I saw this:

Self defence? Really? Maybe take another look. Am I seeing things? Just who is the victim here?

A guy standing in line awaiting entry to the club premises appears to say something and ‘Our Billy’ places both hands on him in what looks to be an attempt to calm him down.

The man then pushes Slater away with an open hand, but then – whammo.

A king hit if ever I’ve seen one. The man in question was not facing Slater and gets creamed by a heavy right fist from the Australian rugby league player.

OK, we are told the police questioned Slater at length down at the nearby station and, upon completion of their enquiries, completely absolved him of all blame.

They even asked if Slater wanted to press charges but he declined.

Obviously, I wasn’t there and there is no audio accompanying the CCTV video but it sure looks to me that Billy Slater’s reaction was way too strong and even bordering on vicious.

Why then, does everyone go to great lengths to downplay the incident? Daily Telegraph reporter Paul Crawley, in Manchester covering the Cup, says he believes Slater was the victim.

We hear Australian coach Tim Sheens told the player he was disappointed he had been embroiled in an incident that had taken the focus off the job at hand – winning the World Cup.

No mention about the time of the fracas, however, from the coach. Somewhere between 2am and 3am. That’s not when world class athletes are supposed to be in action.

It seems no penalty will be imposed on Slater who was “defending himself”.

On Instagram, Slater’s wife vented her anger on her hubby’s assailant, claiming he could have killed her man, the father of their young children.

Well, take a good look at the video clip again.

The incident in the club foyer was a gross over-reaction from Slater and he is exceptionally lucky to beat an assault charge and heavy discipline from the Australian officials, namely a fine and a suspension.

Let me say I have no agenda against Slater – he is an exceptional footballer. I am clearly basing my thoughts in this article on the CCTV footage that has surfaced.

Has Billy The Kid been hit in the backside by a rainbow? The other guy certainly wasn’t.

who is this tim prentice guy?
an attention seeking article.
what makes him think that he is right after watching a 10 second video? the cops made their decsion after listening to witnesses, listening to both accounts and after that asking slater if he wanted to make a complaint.
 
Gently shoved haha

If the ''gentle shove'' doesnt occur….the incident doesnt occur

The gentle part was Slater trying to calm the situation in the first place.....but carry on with your agenda
 
@innsaneink said:
Gently shoved haha

If the ''gentle shove'' doesnt occur….the incident doesnt occur

The gentle part was Slater trying to calm the situation in the first place.....**but carry on with your agenda**

There is no agenda. Why is it that you yourself can have an OPINION on something, but for other people their opinion is suddenly an agenda?

The incident can be viewed from many perspectives…if Slater doesn't try to push in line as has been reported then the incident doesn't occur in the first place.

How are you certain that Slater was trying to calm the situation...just because he has his hands gently on the bloke. Could it be that he was also saying "shut up or I will shut you up"?

The bloke lashes out for no apparent reason in full view of a bouncer who may well kick the crap outta him for doing so, ever thought that maybe there was a reason for him doing it? No-one knows for certain what occurred except for those two, bit ambitious to assume who was at fault without knowing what was said in the lead-up.
 
@Fade To Black said:
? No-one knows for certain what occurred except for those two, bit ambitious to assume who was at fault without knowing what was said in the lead-up.

that much^ i agree with.

move on.
 
@Fade To Black said:
@innsaneink said:
Gently shoved haha

If the ''gentle shove'' doesnt occur….the incident doesnt occur

The gentle part was Slater trying to calm the situation in the first place.....**but carry on with your agenda**

There is no agenda. Why is it that you yourself can have an OPINION on something, but for other people their opinion is suddenly an agenda?

The incident can be viewed from many perspectives.**..if Slater doesn't try to push in line as has been reported then the incident doesn't occur in the first place.**

How are you certain that Slater was trying to calm the situation…just because he has his hands gently on the bloke. Could it be that he was also saying "shut up or I will shut you up"?

The bloke lashes out for no apparent reason in full view of a bouncer who may well kick the crap outta him for doing so, ever thought that maybe there was a reason for him doing it? No-one knows for certain what occurred except for those two, bit ambitious to assume who was at fault without knowing what was said in the lead-up.

Theyd already been in the club, were leaving…Slater forgot his jacket, wanted to retrieve it, I assume hes trying to explain calmly to the bloke what his intentions were, the cctv points to all this as a logical scenario...body language tells a lot

Youve already mentioned ''hate''.....not too much of a stretch to assume theres an agenda as well....

Hating someone you dont even know...fancy that

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I'm sorry guys but i have to side with Irvine and Fade To Black on this one….I don't think someone would push another person in the face without a reason.Also if Slater wasn't their at 3am in the morning then this situation wouldn't of happened also if Slater didn't push in in the first place this situation wouldn't of happened. I understand that he can and should be able to go out and enjoy himself with his team mates but when you are a professional athlete who is representing your countr in a competion you should not be out at 3 am anywhere let alone a night club on the drink. I watched the cctv footage a few times and IMO what happened was Slater patted the guy on the shoulder and said something to him and then while turning his head to the bouncer the guy palmed him in the face. Now would you palm someone in the face for patting you on the shoulder? Unless he was getting on your nerves and pissing you off and said something to set you off.
 
@Tigersman said:
I'm sorry guys but i have to side with Irvine and Fade To Black on this one….I don't think someone would push another person in the face without a reason.Also if Slater wasn't their at 3am in the morning then this situation wouldn't of happened also if Slater didn't push in in the first place this situation wouldn't of happened. I understand that he can and should be able to go out and enjoy himself with his team mates but when you are a professional athlete and everyone knows who you are you should not be out an about at 3 am anywhere let alone a Night club on the drink. I watched the cctv footage a few times and watched it just now aswell and IMO what happened was Slater patted the guy on the shoulder and said something to him and and then while turning his head to the bouncer the guy palmed him in the face. Now would you palm someone in the face for patting you on the shoulder? Unless he was getting on your nerves and pissing you off and said something to set you off. Also we have no idea what was said and what happened before the incident. All we saw was a 6 second clip.

Obviously never been at a pub at 3.00am with a heap of drunks

Alcohol can do some strange things to people
 
@happy tiger said:
@Tigersman said:
I'm sorry guys but i have to side with Irvine and Fade To Black on this one….I don't think someone would push another person in the face without a reason.Also if Slater wasn't their at 3am in the morning then this situation wouldn't of happened also if Slater didn't push in in the first place this situation wouldn't of happened. I understand that he can and should be able to go out and enjoy himself with his team mates but when you are a professional athlete and everyone knows who you are you should not be out an about at 3 am anywhere let alone a Night club on the drink. I watched the cctv footage a few times and watched it just now aswell and IMO what happened was Slater patted the guy on the shoulder and said something to him and and then while turning his head to the bouncer the guy palmed him in the face. Now would you palm someone in the face for patting you on the shoulder? Unless he was getting on your nerves and pissing you off and said something to set you off. Also we have no idea what was said and what happened before the incident. All we saw was a 6 second clip.

Obviously never been at a pub at 3.00am with a heap of drunks

Alcohol can do some strange things to people

Your missing my point Slater SHOULD NEVER OF been at a pub at 3:00 am on the piss. Also if i was out at 3:00am at a pub on the drink with my mates my dad would belt the shit out of me lol (Not literally of course i think…...LOL)
 
This whole incident has been blown way out of proportion. Watching the footage you can see Slater was trying to calm the situation, his body language clearly shows it. The other bloke for some reason decides to give him a hard shove to the face, and Slater defends himself. How is Slater supposed to know the guy will only hit him once? Is he meant to wait until the guy completely lays into him before he starts fighting back? Slater may be a grub on the field, but off it he seems like a decent bloke, and he has no history involved in such incidents which would back up that belief. He says he did nothing wrong, the police agree with him (after watching the same footage we've all seen) and offered him the right to press charges against them, which is a fair hint he hasn't done anything wrong.
 
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