There really is a God

every income earner gets the tax free threshold, but fluctuating tax brackets are a rort… Flat Tax is the only way.

But God doesnt listen and now Malcolm is in charge, forget about corporate tax changes being pushed through.

I wonder if we tax churches/god, will he disappear really quickly to avoid tax?
 
Any minister I have had discussions with regarding money, always highlights the fact that, if a church is making a profit, it is not doing it's job. Most money going into a church has already had tax taken out of it several times. Our church, identifies where there is a need, commits to it and then asks for contributions.
Whilst people are quick to lay the boot into a lot of organisations, just stop and reflex what great charitable work they do for the general good of the community and the amount of money they save the government through this great work.
By the way, there is a God and I know one day everyone of you will be calling for him. I pray that your spiritual experience will be as enlightening as mine. Go Weststigers!
 
This guy can fly as good as JC
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@Tiger Watto said:
every income earner gets the tax free threshold, but fluctuating tax brackets are a rort… Flat Tax is the only way.

But God doesnt listen and now Malcolm is in charge, forget about corporate tax changes being pushed through.

I wonder if we tax churches/god, will he disappear really quickly to avoid tax?

The "Flat Tax" should be a minimal rate on all transactions as it stops the rorting via layers of companies etceteta. I have no problem with tax brackets, being happy to pay plenty of tax in the years I do well and less in others.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
every income earner gets the tax free threshold, but fluctuating tax brackets are a rort… Flat Tax is the only way.

But God doesnt listen and now Malcolm is in charge, forget about corporate tax changes being pushed through.

I wonder if we tax churches/god, will he disappear really quickly to avoid tax?

Why is progressive taxation a rort? How does a flat tax eliminate this supposed rort? And what does progressive taxation have to do with corporate tax changes given the corporate tax rate is a flat tax?
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@formerguest said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Religious institutions should pay tax.

Agreed, and a fair amount as should Trusts, corporations (particularly large international) and high end superannuation rorters.

Technically Trusts are distributed to end users [through layers] etc, so they pay tax inevitably.

The operational Tax Breaks to Not-For-Profit Organisations are huge, and I feel once you become a public place [Licensed Clubs] those breaks should disappear.

No Government will have the kahuna's to tax churches!

The income of a trust is either taxed in the hands of the trustee (at the highest marginal rate) or the beneficiaries (at the beneficiaries applicable marginal rate).

Trust income is always taxed. The tax minimisation from trusts comes from the ability to income split i.e. to distribute income to beneficiaries who have a lower marginal tax rate. However, the efficacy of doing this on personal services income is limited.
 
@formerguest said:
@Tiger Watto said:
every income earner gets the tax free threshold, but fluctuating tax brackets are a rort… Flat Tax is the only way.

But God doesnt listen and now Malcolm is in charge, forget about corporate tax changes being pushed through.

I wonder if we tax churches/god, will he disappear really quickly to avoid tax?

The "Flat Tax" should be a minimal rate on all transactions as it stops the rorting via layers of companies etceteta. I have no problem with tax brackets, being happy to pay plenty of tax in the years I do well and less in others.

That's called a GST or a value added tax. These are known as indirect taxes whereas income tax is referred to as a direct tax. All tax policy experts agrees that a good tax system involves a combination of direct and indirect taxes.
 
Soooooo…Religion and Politics do mix...What the hell would God think...
 
@southerntiger said:
@formerguest said:
@Tiger Watto said:
every income earner gets the tax free threshold, but fluctuating tax brackets are a rort… Flat Tax is the only way.

But God doesnt listen and now Malcolm is in charge, forget about corporate tax changes being pushed through.

I wonder if we tax churches/god, will he disappear really quickly to avoid tax?

The "Flat Tax" should be a minimal rate on all transactions as it stops the rorting via layers of companies etceteta. I have no problem with tax brackets, being happy to pay plenty of tax in the years I do well and less in others.

That's called a GST or a value added tax. These are known as indirect taxes whereas income tax is referred to as a direct tax. All tax policy experts agrees that a good tax system involves a combination of direct and indirect taxes.

Yes Southern, though transaction was probably the wrong word for me to use as I was referring to movement of monies, rather than purchases and thus separate from VAT or GST.
 
@formerguest said:
@southerntiger said:
@formerguest said:
@Tiger Watto said:
every income earner gets the tax free threshold, but fluctuating tax brackets are a rort… Flat Tax is the only way.

But God doesnt listen and now Malcolm is in charge, forget about corporate tax changes being pushed through.

I wonder if we tax churches/god, will he disappear really quickly to avoid tax?

The "Flat Tax" should be a minimal rate on all transactions as it stops the rorting via layers of companies etceteta. I have no problem with tax brackets, being happy to pay plenty of tax in the years I do well and less in others.

That's called a GST or a value added tax. These are known as indirect taxes whereas income tax is referred to as a direct tax. All tax policy experts agrees that a good tax system involves a combination of direct and indirect taxes.

Yes Southern, though transaction was probably the wrong word for me to use as I was referring to movement of monies, rather than purchases and thus separate from VAT or GST.

Mark Latham proposed something similar many years ago before he was Leader of the Labor Party. He called it a Progressive Expenditure Tax. It wasn't flat but was a tax on expenditure rather than transactions.
 
@stryker said:
What's with all the boring tax talk?
This thread has been seriously derailed lol.

well if the Balmain light rail can be derailed what can we expect - back on line before rails were invented didn't JC whip the money lenders out of the Temple? That was a dangerous move - no wonder they dobbed him into the Romans That is like getting Eddie O'beid and Honest Sam off side!
 

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