This merger and all it's stupid issues

MacDougall

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Let me preface this post by saying that I have spent roughly 12 hours of my entire life in Sydney. I am a Balmain fan since before I can remember and I can only put it down to being 3 years old in 1989 and feeling sorry for all the players after they lost the grand final. You can tell me I'm not a real fan because I'm not a local or whatever but when I started supporting the Tigers the nearest team to Grafton was Brisbane and they were Queenslanders. I was born in the year of the Tiger, love the animal and picked em for life.

Now on to the point here. I hear from Western Suburbs Magpies supporters how much it sucks to have their side of the merger ignored or what have you. They always cite the fact that there is only a teency little magpie on the jersey and that the side is based at Concord. That the players don't promote the game out in Campbo and surrounds and so they don't feel a part of it. Well I just heard this much said on a video posted in another thread and I'm at my wits end here.

Look, we are the "Wests Tigers." I always thought it was lame and we should have been the Western Suburbs Tigers but what does it REALLY matter? Is there any reference to Balmain on the jersey? Do the players REALLY walk the streets of Lilyfield and Leichhardt with a speakerphone promoting themselves and handing out lollies to children? I can't say for sure whether they do but if they really do spend more time promoting the game by going out to schools, local businesses and doing fan days in the inner west then from up here in Brisbane I don't see it. I see articles written exclusively for the Macarthur newspaper and videos of them going to school after school out in the Macarthur. The most utterly irritating thing is that there was such uproar about the Magpies not having a state cup side, well what about the Balmain Tigers? At least Wests have a Bundy Cup side. Never a second thought for the fact that the Balmain Tigers senior football club are literally dead right now. Gone. Media officials and supporters alike cry the plight of the Magpies well it seems to me like Balmain have it just as bad. And with all the talk of Balmain going broke and the Magpies having all the cash the Maggies side of this merger seem to be really raising their hackles.

From my opinion this whole issue stems from the fact that rugby league in this country has a romance with Leichardt Oval. The Wests Tigers didn't create that "issue" but when you have the most beloved playing ground in the game you will hear the media and the players talk about playing there. Them's the breaks. Perhaps there would be a similar love affair with Campbelltown Stadium if the fans stopped whining about not having a state cup team and embraced what they have. Because it's no less than what the Balmain side of this merger have, other than a love of the club.
 
Agree 10000 percent- the only side of the deal getting the better of it from what I can see is the magpies side and btw the closest leagues club to concord is Wests Magpies Ashfield not any of the balmin side but a wests club
 
And when the Balmain side of the merger try to do something it gets blocked by local council and then the Maggies fans laugh about it. The worst thing from my perspective is that I always had respect for the Magpies and even before the merger loved seeing them win footy matches and being the scrappy toilers that they were throughout the 90s. Balmain and Wests are built from the same stuff. Blue collar hard workers. They are kindred clubs with the same rivals.
 
the romance of leichhardt is flavor of the month and I do love the place, but in reality that will pass and something else will be trendy.
10 years ago leichhardt was just another suburban ground with all the pros and cons that go with that I imagine it will be the case again soon enough
 
Doesn't help when our CEO lambasts and alienates one half of the supporter base while patting the other half on the back. When he was talking about how Leichhardt would have attracted 20 thousand someone should have reminded him of the week turnout we had against the Storm last yr at Leichhardt. C-Town seems to be the whipping horse

If he was serious about us being one club, he'd put every supporter in the same boat, not divide them into factions. If the guy running the show has this mentality its no surprise supporters do either

And Macca, both sides have dinosaurs, not just the Magpies
 
I see almost as much hatred directed at Leichhardt as love at the moment anyway. Other clubs fans HATE going there and not just because of the atmosphere, but because it's uncomfortable, old, crowded and worn out. The one thing that Balmain have that the Maggies don't is a run down field? Yeah right. It's the atmosphere that the people who go to the games take to the place.
 
@LaT said:
**One club.**

And at the end of the day, we all want the same thing. Success!

Yet our CEO puts the supporter base into two categories, bashing one and praising the other, but thats alright i guess. One club…....when the term suits
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
Doesn't help when our CEO lambasts and alienates one half of the supporter base while patting the other half on the back. When he was talking about how Leichhardt would have attracted 20 thousand someone should have reminded him of the week turnout we had against the Storm last yr at Leichhardt. C-Town seems to be the whipping horse

If he was serious about us being one club, he'd put every supporter in the same boat, not divide them into factions. If the guy running the show has this mentality its no surprise supporters do either

And Macca, both sides have dinosaurs, not just the Magpies

Of course. Balmain have one eyed powerbrokers like Elias influencing things but these issues predate Humphreys. I'm not very keen on a CEO that does what he did at all. I have supported the Wests Tigers for longer than I supported Balmain now. I just don't see the justification for the years and years of uproar coming out of the Campbelltown side of the merger.

I don't doubt that Leichhardt would have been filled on Sunday though. If it was round 26 and we were out of contention maybe not but in round 2 I don't think even the performance against the Knights would have stopped 20k turning up. And I can only chalk that up to the local fans at Campbelltown being peeved at the WT for reasons I don't agree with.
 
Its like you are hearing about Humpty for the first time….the guy puts his foot in it every time he talks to the media. Its a gaffe, not a sign of a deep dark secret where he hates one half of all our fans.

Paranoia will kill this club.
 
One idiot CEO that says one thing out of line in 2013 doesn't all of a sudden justify the vitriol that Magpies fans have spewed for years. Balmain have been ended by this merger and not a peep from fans or media about it.
 
We should go to ANZ and play all our games there then flog cheap memberships to try get 20k. Shitty ground n all but if this is what it takes to end this petty rubbish then lets do it.
 
@MacDougall said:
One idiot CEO that says one thing out of line in 2013 doesn't all of a sudden justify the vitriol that Magpies fans have spewed for years. Balmain have been ended by this merger and not a peep from fans or media about it.

Post wasn't towards you, it was at Axl Rose.

But the counter to your argument (I can hear it now) is that accusation that Balmain never ended and it simply emerged as Wests Tigers.

One club. Its the only way forward.
 
@Demonborger said:
We should go to ANZ and play all our games there then flog cheap memberships to try get 20k. s*** ground n all but if this is what it takes to end this petty rubbish then lets do it.

If thats what it take for both parties to get sorted, then so be it. Its not desirable, but its not working the way it is now. WHat we need to do is have a new election for the board fo the Wests Tigers. Not Wests and Balmain, but one made up of passionate people that only want the best for the club. If we keep it up, don't worry about the sharks moving to Adelaide or W.A., it could be us as we'll go bust. Don't want this to happen, but we need change and we need it now! :deadhorse:
 
The only way you could even remotely consider the notion that WT is just Balmain dressed up is simply because the Balmain side of the merger has been more receptive to it since day one. Which is baffling because as we all know, Balmain were the club that had the capacity to survive at the time.
 
At the end of the day I just want what's best for the club. And taking a LOCAL DERBY to a ground that couldn't pull 10k is not what is best for the club. What is going to get the Magpies fans to come back to the games? Winning? I don't think so this time. There is a real issue here. We would have been better off financially playing that game out in Penrith imo.
 
@Demonborger said:
We should go to ANZ and play all our games there then flog cheap memberships to try get 20k. s*** ground n all but if this is what it takes to end this petty rubbish then lets do it.

Well it would solve two issues that Humphries talked about in that article. We would get more money(and guaranteed) and we have averaged bigger crowds there than at LO or cambo. So what logical reason ties us to these grounds? I'd like him to answer that question.

Seems like a no brainer to me. The dogs worked it out more than a decade ago and it explains why they are the number 1 club in Sydney and we are stuffing around with the likes of Penrith and cronulla.
 
@MacDougall said:
At the end of the day I just want what's best for the club. And taking a LOCAL DERBY to a ground that couldn't pull 10k is not what is best for the club. What is going to get the Magpies fans to come back to the games? Winning? I don't think so this time. There is a real issue here. We would have been better off financially playing that game out in Penrith imo.

No. We would have been better off at Homebush but whinging supporters going on about atmosphere are pressuring the club to ingnore the money there. Apparently we dont need the money.
 
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