Gary_Bakerloo
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@GNR4LIFE said:
Correct. We are one club when Balmain Football Club takes a cheque from Wests Ashfield.
This merger and all it's stupid issues
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Correct. We are one club when Balmain Football Club takes a cheque from Wests Ashfield.
Gary_Bakerloo
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@MacDougall said:
And the issues with that crude criteria are now coming to fruit. It is evident now, just 13 years later, that Balmain did not have the capacity to survive.
That criteria was the biggest disgrace ever enforced on the game. Clubs who looked in and did not look to grow/expand the game were rewarded, whereas those who left their traditional areas were punished.
gallagher
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@mtd said:
I dont know how you came to that conclusion. Some people read what they want to read I guess. I think that we should play one game at LO and CSS per year maximum. So dont try and drag me into a b@tch fight about two sh@tty little grounds. Neither of them are our future.
In regards to my post. You had a litlle 'holier than thou' rant about people just getting on with supporting the tigers and stop whinging. I want to know if you will take youe own advice if we play all our games at Allianz. Simple question.
simonthetiger
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@Gary Bakerloo said:
Nice cheap shot….and where is Wests Ashfield again??
Just down the road from Leichhardt Oval and Concord.......
Gary_Bakerloo
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@simonthetiger said:
Call it what you like, but it is an example of how we are Wests Tigers only when it suits Balmain or Western Suburbs. Can point to many more examples.
I live in the Campbelltown area and it is true that there is a broad range of supporters for a variety of NRL clubs, this is usually because of people relocating to the area from other places or having some connection to these clubs. As time passes, if the Wests Tigers continue to make a concerted effort in the Macarthur area, then future generations will support the Wests Tigers and they will identify more with them, in addition Macarthur kids will grow up wanting to play for the Tigers. Abandoning CSS and the region is not the answer, if that happens and we move to play all games at the SFS, then another club will move in to the area (I belive this to be strategicaly a bad long term move as the NRL will want a club to represent the SW of Sydney). The tone of this debate and the clear agendas by some (be they balmain or magpies) is not helpful. The long term survival of the Wests Tigers is what is important.
@madunit said:
I think that's right. And it's a shame because the majority of ex-Magpies are passionate about the current team and just want it to do well. However there is a disgusting vile section of them who if they are boycotting the games I'd be just as happy if they stayed away from my club. Of course there are some ex-Balmain people who go a bit OTT at times too.
@FARANGALANG said:
Campbelltown, Leichhardt, SFS… The venue is irrelevant. The issue is that ANY game at ANY of our venues is pulling under 10k...
For the record though, Melbourne weren't world champions when that game was played...
Gary_Bakerloo
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@Nate DAWG said:
That is the key question. After 13 years, it feels like this club is at the cross roads. Do we continue with the piecemeal offering to the inner city/greater west or do we make a definitive call and play a large proportion (say 9 out of 12) of our matches at one venue?
FARANGALANG
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@Yossarian said:
mate get a grip the melbourne storm vs penrith panthers re drawcard is like black caviar vs benji bullet.THE ISSUE Which you are right about is correct re any venue but why does it take humphreys one year later crap all over campbelltown but not say nothing about his beloved leichhardt oval from A YEAR previous.Put simply the guy has serious anti merger tendencies.So we can sit on this forum all day talking about issues e.t.c but while the ceo is completely blinded in his buyist towards one side of the merger nothings gonna change.
@FARANGALANG said:
When did I mention our CEO? I was responding to the whole "don't criticise the Campbo crowd because some game at Leichhardt drew the same" line that is being pedalled. Your argument about who is a better drawcard (which I think is flawed anyway) is irrelevant to the question of why any of our games get low crowds. Maybe the CEO was tactless, probably he shouldn't have made the comments but at the end of the day a home game against another Sydney team at one of our grounds drew less than 10k
simonthetiger
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Ssshhhhhh….dont mention the crowd.
We dont wanna offend anyone.
We dont wanna offend anyone.
Gary_Bakerloo
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@simonthetiger said:
or the debt.
@simonthetiger said:
simonthetiger
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Shame about the size of the magpie.
GNR4LIFE
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Freakin hilarious that Simon of all people accuses others of cheap shots
Gary_Bakerloo
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Just shows a lack of understanding of the issues affecting our long term future.
The size of a logo on our sleeve is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Our issues stem from the board and front office.
The size of a logo on our sleeve is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Our issues stem from the board and front office.
Black_n_White
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To those who propose moving our home games permanantly to the SFS, and think its the way forward have not thought their position through.
A long time ago, the Magpies were moved out of Lidcombe to Campelltown to help spread the game further out across the Sydney landscape, a move that seperated the club from its fanbase. Down the road the League then decided to evaluate each club and force merges upon teams they deemed unstable with options geographically close, why? To condense the competition and allow room for expansion around the country. Now thats a very simplistic breakdown obviously but serves the point.
The clubs are given room to carve out a niche for themselves, build an identity, a home to which they belong. The poor turn-out on the weekend is testament to how poorly the WT have worked with the community to nurture a strong following, not just geographically to the ground, but the entire fanbase.
All this current butthurt (I must admit as an ex Magpie my ring is stinging a bit), has come from the CEO making backhanded statements about a portion of the fanbase. People think the old Magpies are baseless whingers for the most part, so I tell you what, how about anyone who thinks this keep an eye out for Humphreys talking about the crowd we pull this week at Leichhardt. My money is on him turning the divisive knife, and comparing the 2 again instead of working a PR angle and leaving the bickering to the back room. Be honest if it happens. I have a feeling thats what drove his comments on the weekend, I hope Im wrong though, because even the Farrah signing article goes to show he pushed the talks over the last 2 days to have him signed by this weekend, why is that so important for this game? Also one of the strongest travelling fanbases are the oposition, and further has a jersey sponsor for this game to aid promotion…. where was this sort of diligence last week? It is pretty sad if it is true though, because honestly I am not trying to play the martyr, but the club should not be played against itself like this.
Alot of fans have their head stuck in the sand and think some of us are conspiracy theorists. Even if you do, hold the club accountable for not being as proactive or smart enough to work promotion angles across all home games no matter the venue.
A long time ago, the Magpies were moved out of Lidcombe to Campelltown to help spread the game further out across the Sydney landscape, a move that seperated the club from its fanbase. Down the road the League then decided to evaluate each club and force merges upon teams they deemed unstable with options geographically close, why? To condense the competition and allow room for expansion around the country. Now thats a very simplistic breakdown obviously but serves the point.
The clubs are given room to carve out a niche for themselves, build an identity, a home to which they belong. The poor turn-out on the weekend is testament to how poorly the WT have worked with the community to nurture a strong following, not just geographically to the ground, but the entire fanbase.
All this current butthurt (I must admit as an ex Magpie my ring is stinging a bit), has come from the CEO making backhanded statements about a portion of the fanbase. People think the old Magpies are baseless whingers for the most part, so I tell you what, how about anyone who thinks this keep an eye out for Humphreys talking about the crowd we pull this week at Leichhardt. My money is on him turning the divisive knife, and comparing the 2 again instead of working a PR angle and leaving the bickering to the back room. Be honest if it happens. I have a feeling thats what drove his comments on the weekend, I hope Im wrong though, because even the Farrah signing article goes to show he pushed the talks over the last 2 days to have him signed by this weekend, why is that so important for this game? Also one of the strongest travelling fanbases are the oposition, and further has a jersey sponsor for this game to aid promotion…. where was this sort of diligence last week? It is pretty sad if it is true though, because honestly I am not trying to play the martyr, but the club should not be played against itself like this.
Alot of fans have their head stuck in the sand and think some of us are conspiracy theorists. Even if you do, hold the club accountable for not being as proactive or smart enough to work promotion angles across all home games no matter the venue.
diedpretty
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Lets break out the violins - the usual suspects are on the prowl - if you want one club and no division then stop writing posts that are divisive and incite the so called (and might i add fictional ) Balmain hatred you talk about - you lump every ex magpie supporter together because of a very small minority who do put the boot in - i find the fact that you do that as divisive - i don't hate Balmain and i'm sure the majority of ex Wests supporters on this forum feel the same.
simonthetiger
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@diedpretty said:
Cheers for th post…..but the angst seems in numbers and relentless.
If its not the media loving Leichhardt,its the lack of games at Cambo,its the perceived Balmain bias,the size of the magpie,the juniors etc,etc,etc......the list is endless and its never ending.
Gawd its just so dreary.
If its such a bad deal then go watch the soccer.....Im assuming thats where everyone was on Sunday.
simonthetiger
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@GNR4LIFE said:
Why dont you send me some more weirdo pm's bagging out Balmain you stalker.
