Thoughts after 5 weeks.

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How embarrassing to say you support this mob.

Can't remember the last time I wore my jersey .

Can't believe I used to have Wests Tigers number plates on my ute :laughing:

Even the [This word has been automatically removed] at the RMS laughed when I handed them in :bash

Keep up the good work Wests Tigers :laughing:
 
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How embarrassing to say you support this mob.

Can't remember the last time I wore my jersey .

Can't believe I used to have Wests Tigers number plates on my ute :laughing:

Even the [This word has been automatically removed] at the RMS laughed when I handed them in :bash

Keep up the good work Wests Tigers :laughing:

Geez harden up fella's …we beat Souff's... :laughing:
 
Our problems start in the middle third. Our forwards in that area are being dominated and the consequences of this is our edges are being sucked into the middle third, particularly our right side. We're short on depth and desperately need a better bench, the $1 million hole in our roster is killing us - you could have two very high quality forwards on that coin.
 
We are hurting, as a team and supporters and honestly it's going to get worse before it gets better. But on positive there's always next week in footy.
 
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Oh TIGER I went with your criticisms early, then you went soft on Moses. If he's our only attacking option God help us, he's reverted to the 2014 MM, full of bad options and missed tackles. Whatever happened to him the back end of last year, the pills have worn off.

I'm not going soft on him, people just need to understand he's our only attacking option, every play is going to him and he's under pressure to produce something for the team. He's not handling it, but I don't think he should be turfed.
 
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I'm depressed.

and im suicidal watching us play this poorly

You know what? I've gone completely in the opposite direction with my thoughts and feelings.

After over 50 years of avidly supporting first Wests and now Wests Tigers - heart racing throughout every match, jumping up and down like a maniac at games, running out of the loungeroom because I couldn't bear to look at the TV in close matches, angry & depressed when they lose, elated when they win - I seriously now could not care less!

I am completely unemotional when watching the Tigers play now, I don't care if they win and I don't care if they lose - my God, I never in all my life thought that I would end up like this!! I thought that I would always haven that emotional connection when watching my footy team go around, no matter how much I tried to stay calm and disassociated, but all the years of turmoil, mediocrity, mismanagement, bad press, bad decisions, disunity, constant rebuilding phases, lack of fight shown by the players and potential never realised, I genuinely couldn't give a sh!t anymore.

My sentiments exactly !

Well if you two don't give a –-- anymore - why do you expect the team to?
 
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If I had carte blanche. These are my first orders of business.

I would keep Brooks over Moses. I still think if given the same cattle to work with Brooks is the better player. He is also less of a loudmouth. He also carries the lower price tag. Brooks is a former NRL Rookie of the Year. He has put on tons of tries. Moses is nowhere near the ballplayer Brooks is. Moses closes his eyes and heaves spirals. He is an imbecile. I wouldn't re-sign him at all let alone 800k.

I would replace Lawrence with a gun backrower. Not McQueen. Someone like Hess. Someone that worries the opposition. Aloiai is decent but learning. Lawrence needs to be upgraded.

I would replace Moses with Widdop.

I would let Woods go and replace him with any 2 of Matulino, Evans and Asofa Solomona.

I would give Tedesco the keys to the club on the proviso he sacked Isaac Moses.

i 100% agree with you Macca
 
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Oh TIGER I went with your criticisms early, then you went soft on Moses. If he's our only attacking option God help us, he's reverted to the 2014 MM, full of bad options and missed tackles. Whatever happened to him the back end of last year, the pills have worn off.

I'm not going soft on him, people just need to understand he's our only attacking option, every play is going to him and he's under pressure to produce something for the team. He's not handling it, but I don't think he should be turfed.

Problem is that when he's at his attacking best he is still a witches hat in defence, so when he's not effective in attack he's a wasted spot.

At $800K a year? No thanks.
 
My thoughts are , Ivan Cleary may have second Thoughts about coming in to this mess , off contract players , spirits rock bottom , players who will leave regardless ( Teddy to Roosters ) players wanting top Dollar and giving poor performance , a board that cannot run a Football Club ( football Club ) the other club they run is run by Poker Machines , team that just lacks grunt , you can go in and on
 
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Oh TIGER I went with your criticisms early, then you went soft on Moses. If he's our only attacking option God help us, he's reverted to the 2014 MM, full of bad options and missed tackles. Whatever happened to him the back end of last year, the pills have worn off.

I'm not going soft on him, people just need to understand he's our only attacking option, every play is going to him and he's under pressure to produce something for the team. He's not handling it, but I don't think he should be turfed.

They ran a few plays to the left for Littlejohn to cock up, to be fair. And 70% of the time Moses' play selection was "give it to Tedesco and hope for the best" so I'm not sure he really gets a pass based on his attempts to take control of the game himself.
 
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My thoughts are , Ivan Cleary may have second Thoughts about coming in to this mess , off contract players , spirits rock bottom , players who will leave regardless ( Teddy to Roosters ) players wanting top Dollar and giving poor performance , a board that cannot run a Football Club ( football Club ) the other club they run is run by Poker Machines , team that just lacks grunt , you can go in and on

We're shaping to be Cleary's only choice.

Hasler resigned, apparently the Saints are looking to extend Mary now with their purple patch. Knights are performing better than last year and competing despite not getting the result.

I don't think Cleary has a choice if he wants to stay in FG coaching. We've still got the salary cap carrot.
 
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Littlejon - Had his chances now to show what he's got as a half and he has zero.

A bit harsh on Littlejohn, he has only had 4 opportunities. I thought he was ok yesterday, just got out bid for the ball by Moses. We actually looked like we could penetrate the Dragon's defence yesterday when we went left with Littlejohn (Idris and Suli can bend the line).
 
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and im suicidal watching us play this poorly

You know what? I've gone completely in the opposite direction with my thoughts and feelings.

After over 50 years of avidly supporting first Wests and now Wests Tigers - heart racing throughout every match, jumping up and down like a maniac at games, running out of the loungeroom because I couldn't bear to look at the TV in close matches, angry & depressed when they lose, elated when they win - I seriously now could not care less!

I am completely unemotional when watching the Tigers play now, I don't care if they win and I don't care if they lose - my God, I never in all my life thought that I would end up like this!! I thought that I would always haven that emotional connection when watching my footy team go around, no matter how much I tried to stay calm and disassociated, but all the years of turmoil, mediocrity, mismanagement, bad press, bad decisions, disunity, constant rebuilding phases, lack of fight shown by the players and potential never realised, I genuinely couldn't give a sh!t anymore.

My sentiments exactly !

Well if you two don't give a –-- anymore - why do you expect the team to?

This basket case of a club hasn't given a toss a lot longer than we have !
Do I need to explain it all out to you ? :unamused:
 
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My thoughts …

I'd get more of a buzz smoking pot and staring at the stars than watching this crap team each week !

Just the attitude needed to be the next captain or coach of Wests Tigers.
 
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I love having my Sundays destroyed supporting this lot. They inspire me in having a great week. By the time I've calmed down it's time for another 80 minutes of crap

How do you think Channel Nine must feel - maybe 3 weeks in a row a one-sided game and shame. I think make Gerry Harvey CEO - he was strict in making sure that payments matched performances in his organisation. He can donate one of his stores as a club house.
 
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I love having my Sundays destroyed supporting this lot. They inspire me in having a great week. By the time I've calmed down it's time for another 80 minutes of crap

How do you think Channel Nine must feel - maybe 3 weeks in a row a one-sided game and shame. I think make Gerry Harvey CEO - he was strict in making sure that payments matched performances in his organisation. He can donate one of his stores as a club house.

Que?
 
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I'm depressed.

and im suicidal watching us play this poorly

You know what? I've gone completely in the opposite direction with my thoughts and feelings.

After over 50 years of avidly supporting first Wests and now Wests Tigers - heart racing throughout every match, jumping up and down like a maniac at games, running out of the loungeroom because I couldn't bear to look at the TV in close matches, angry & depressed when they lose, elated when they win - I seriously now could not care less!

I am completely unemotional when watching the Tigers play now, I don't care if they win and I don't care if they lose - my God, I never in all my life thought that I would end up like this!! I thought that I would always have that emotional connection when watching my footy team go around, no matter how much I tried to stay calm and disassociated, but all the years of turmoil, mediocrity, mismanagement, bad press, bad decisions, disunity, constant rebuilding phases, lack of fight shown by the players and potential never realised have taken it's toll and I genuinely couldn't give a sh!t anymore.

I have been that way since I believed that they did not paddock the best team leading to semis last year. I appreciate Teddy or Mitch work magic but that does not happen anymore. I think opposing teams are laughing at our defence. Individually they want to hog the tries whilst there is a feast.
 
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Littlejon - Had his chances now to show what he's got as a half and he has zero.

A bit harsh on Littlejohn, he has only had 4 opportunities. I thought he was ok yesterday, just got out bid for the ball by Moses. We actually looked like we could penetrate the Dragon's defence yesterday when we went left with Littlejohn (Idris and Suli can bend the line).

Thing is, I always try to think about motivation in a game… sure Moses hogged the ball but JLJ has everything to play for here, Brooks out for multiple weeks and Tigers undecided on their halves pairing moving forward. It was this type of opportunity that Cody Walker grabbed with both hands, for example.

JLJ didn't have many opportunities but he was fairly average with what he did. Even just a bit more tempo would have been good, something for the fans to notice and go "oh he's having a dig, good on him". What I noticed, and I was watching fairly carefully, was a handful of good kicks, absolutely zero passing game, no running game and a few arm-grabs.
 

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