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[goldcoast_tiger]

I think a lot of people are ignoring the reasons why Balmain is in its current predicament.

It was not (originally) due to mismanagement or negligence from the Board at the time. They did something which was adventurous, but had the potential to be hugely profitable, in undertaking the development of the Leagues Club.

As they say timing is everything, and the GFC hit at the absolute worst moment whereby the Group who was going to undertake the redevelopment suddenly went bust. This is coupled with the Labor Govt back flipping on the light rail after making the club buy basically every property on the block, and then the local council doing a 180 on what they originally determined would be a reasonable redevelopment of the site.

Basically everything that could go wrong, did go wrong, leaving the Leagues Club up sh*t creek without a paddle.

This is not absolving the Board of their responsibilities, as they have had 8 years to come up with decent contingency plans. They have failed spectacularly at their duties in making sure the Club remains financial, and the result is the current situation whereby they will be lucky to survive the coming year.

However no-one has mentioned this in all of the above posts, as people seem content to gloss over the reasons for the current predicament and instead lay the boot in and pretend it was the Board's fault all along.

Had the timing been different, and had the State Govt acted appropriately, the development would have probably been completed by now, and the Club would be rolling in cash.

I don't think it's a case of glossing over anything in the past, but more a case of looking at a true picture of where we stand now.
How it happened is history. What matters now , is how it affects WT's from now into the future.
The continued speculation about money and who's going to be a part of the club is not going to help get the right people here.
We should be looking to get the best people, but why would they be involved, with all the rubbish that is/ has been going on here.
Do we just just settle for whoever can't get a job anywhere else, or do we look to be able to be able to afford some of the best.
With the temporary NRL involvement,and a restructured Board , the chance is here to get this place sorted out once and for all ( hopefully) and to
Attract some real money to WT's
Despite having a different opinion earlierthis year , I agree with some that if Balmain can't provide their share themselves , then they shouldn't be a part of any JV . The money owed now is the tip of the iceberg and it would have been better,if there is going to be a change , to have that change now rather than later.
Wests Tigers will remain no matter what happens , but will have the chance to maybe attract a partner to invest, or be run by Wests .And the Balmain supporters will still have the same team
to follow. Maybe it's not ideal, but at the moment we are in desperate need of a shake up financially , and this board has the chance to hopefully, do something about that.

 

[Abraham]

Are Wests really strong enough to run WT by themselves?

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That's my concern, and I have raised it a few times on here already without any satisfactory answers.

The best thing Wests Ashfield have going for them is being situated in a demographic whereby Asian gamblers throw their paychecks into the machines every week (don't get me wrong, Canterbury Leagues survives via the same fortunate demographics). However running a successful Leagues club does not automatically translate into running a successful NRL franchise.

So what has changed that would make Wests Group exceptionally qualified to successfully run an NRL club, when they couldn't do so successfully in the past?

Also, the infighting amongst factions of the Wests Group is legendary, so are we going to replace the old Wests/Balmain infighting with infighting between the various Wests factions instead?

I am not saying any of this to sh*t stir, just wanting some assurances about the parties that could end up running **my** club.

 

[Abraham]

Maybe a " plan B " Shouldve been.put in place

They should have had plans from 'B' all the way to 'Z' ready to be enacted.

But maybe that was too much effort for them.

 

[happy_tiger]

Maybe a " plan B " Shouldve been.put in place

They should have had plans from 'B' all the way to 'Z' ready to be enacted.

But maybe that was too much effort for them.

They have , its called the Harry T plan

I reckon he might still do so reluctantly in the last minute if nothing or no one else appears

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The best thing Wests Ashfield have going for them is being situated in a demographic whereby Asian gamblers throw their paychecks into the machines every week (don't get me wrong, Canterbury Leagues survives via the same fortunate demographics).

Never ceases to amaze me why people make it a point to point out the nationality. Whats the difference between an Asian gambler, and a non Asian gambler?

 

[tigerbalm]

The best thing Wests Ashfield have going for them is being situated in a demographic whereby Asian gamblers throw their paychecks into the machines every week (don't get me wrong, Canterbury Leagues survives via the same fortunate demographics).

Never ceases to amaze me why people make it a point to point out the nationality. Whats the difference between an Asian gambler, and a non Asian gambler?

Don't worry about Abe.

He likes to find new and creative ways to have sly petty shots at wests. Casual Racism I guess is not beyond him.

Anyways Abe, you won't have to ponder on how the wests group will go running the big show for too much longer, that reality is coming to a football team near you very soon.

I for one can't wait till this balmain nonsense is all done. United board, united funding, united team! Wests are in for a golden period!

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[Nors05]

FFS, if Balmain have no money and Wests can take over their debt then LET THEM DO IT! Why would we allow for things to get so bad that people have to start donating money to keep things running.
If Balmain are done then they are done. I don't give a shit about Balmain or Campbelltown or wherever the hell anyone is located, all I care about is the WESTS TIGERS. As long as the people running the show have money and structures in place for success then do it.

 

[Abraham]

The best thing Wests Ashfield have going for them is being situated in a demographic whereby Asian gamblers throw their paychecks into the machines every week (don't get me wrong, Canterbury Leagues survives via the same fortunate demographics).

Never ceases to amaze me why people make it a point to point out the nationality. Whats the difference between an Asian gambler, and a non Asian gambler?

Don't worry about Abe.

He likes to find new and creative ways to have sly petty shots at wests. Casual Racism I guess is not beyond him.

Anyways Abe, you won't have to ponder on how the wests group will go running the big show for too much longer, that reality is coming to a football team near you very soon.

I for one can't wait till this balmain nonsense is all done. United board, united funding, united team! Wests are in for a golden period!

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I don't take pot shots sweet heart.

If there is anything constructive that you can add to this discussion, please be my guest.

However if you planning on polluting it with your usual nonsensical whining garbage, then find the exit and POQ.

 

[Abraham]

The best thing Wests Ashfield have going for them is being situated in a demographic whereby Asian gamblers throw their paychecks into the machines every week (don't get me wrong, Canterbury Leagues survives via the same fortunate demographics).

Never ceases to amaze me why people make it a point to point out the nationality. Whats the difference between an Asian gambler, and a non Asian gambler?

You're amazed by quite trivial things it seems.

I mention it because facts are facts, Ashfield is an Asian dominated suburb, and Asians love to gamble. The demographics of Ashfield are a specific reason why the club does so well financially.

The club (and others in similarly populated suburbs) market specifically to Asians for this very reason.

Why gloss over it when its true?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The best thing Wests Ashfield have going for them is being situated in a demographic whereby Asian gamblers throw their paychecks into the machines every week (don't get me wrong, Canterbury Leagues survives via the same fortunate demographics).

Never ceases to amaze me why people make it a point to point out the nationality. Whats the difference between an Asian gambler, and a non Asian gambler?

You're amazed by quite trivial things it seems.

I mention it because facts are facts, Ashfield is an Asian dominated suburb, and Asians love to gamble. The demographics of Ashfield are a specific reason why the club does so well financially.

The club (and others in similarly populated suburbs) market specifically to Asians for this very reason.

Why gloss over it when its true?

Apologies, im just not quite so sure why the nationality of who gambles is quite relevant. Carry on with your casually racist, sterotyping lifestyle.

 

[tigerbalm]

The best thing Wests Ashfield have going for them is being situated in a demographic whereby Asian gamblers throw their paychecks into the machines every week (don't get me wrong, Canterbury Leagues survives via the same fortunate demographics).

Never ceases to amaze me why people make it a point to point out the nationality. Whats the difference between an Asian gambler, and a non Asian gambler?

You're amazed by quite trivial things it seems.

I mention it because facts are facts, Ashfield is an Asian dominated suburb, and Asians love to gamble. The demographics of Ashfield are a specific reason why the club does so well financially.

The club (and others in similarly populated suburbs) market specifically to Asians for this very reason.

Why gloss over it when its true?

I mean…you are generally in the top 5 of moronic posters but with this you may have skyrocketed to the top!
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So...by your logic...ha...clubs in areas that don't have a large Asian population do poorly? Because Asians likey to gamble right? That must be why penrith leagues club is struggling! Not enough Asians!

Have a beer before a CSS game and there are loads of non Asians playing the machines. Walk into any pub and you will find every race you can think of playing the flashing lights. Just Asians? Just an excuse for you to have a backhanded dig at wests with a sprinkle of racism. Well done! You got the double!
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The fact you posted it initially with negative connotations really shows a lot about your mindset . I used to enjoy your angry little rants and whimpers because I thought you were a harmless little man watching his club fade away...now I see your a proper nutter it's not fun.

I'm out.

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[innsaneink]

Mate, Asians gamble hard…no one punts like an asian

 

[Newtown]

Mate, Asians gamble hard…no one punts like an asian

If anyone doubts it they should go and look around the Sydney Casino.

 

[happy_tiger]

Mate, Asians gamble hard…no one punts like an asian

If anyone doubts it they should go and look around the Sydney Casino.

Look something many may not realize is with some Asian countries (Japanese in particular ) not spending your entire wedding gift set aside for your honeymoon (cash wise ) on your honeymoon is showing your family and friends a complete lack of respect

I'm not saying all but some actually gamble the money away on purpose

And I'm not pulling your leg , this is dinky di

 

[Abraham]

The best thing Wests Ashfield have going for them is being situated in a demographic whereby Asian gamblers throw their paychecks into the machines every week (don't get me wrong, Canterbury Leagues survives via the same fortunate demographics).

Never ceases to amaze me why people make it a point to point out the nationality. Whats the difference between an Asian gambler, and a non Asian gambler?

You're amazed by quite trivial things it seems.

I mention it because facts are facts, Ashfield is an Asian dominated suburb, and Asians love to gamble. The demographics of Ashfield are a specific reason why the club does so well financially.

The club (and others in similarly populated suburbs) market specifically to Asians for this very reason.

Why gloss over it when its true?

I mean…you are generally in the top 5 of moronic posters but with this you may have skyrocketed to the top!
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So...by your logic...ha...clubs in areas that don't have a large Asian population do poorly? Because Asians likey to gamble right? That must be why penrith leagues club is struggling! Not enough Asians!

Have a beer before a CSS game and there are loads of non Asians playing the machines. Walk into any pub and you will find every race you can think of playing the flashing lights. Just Asians? Just an excuse for you to have a backhanded dig at wests with a sprinkle of racism. Well done! You got the double!
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The fact you posted it initially with negative connotations really shows a lot about your mindset . I used to enjoy your angry little rants and whimpers because I thought you were a harmless little man watching his club fade away...now I see your a proper nutter it's not fun.

I'm out.

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Sorry I couldn't be bothered reading any of the rubbish you come up with.

I just saw 'I'm out' and that made me happy.

Now stay out.

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[Abraham]

Apologies, im just not quite so sure why the nationality of who gambles is quite relevant. Carry on with your casually racist, sterotyping lifestyle.

I didn't take you for the limp wristed PC type, but that's what's great about this forum, it keeps throwing up surprises.

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[Yossarian]

Some Asians like to gamble. But if you're going to say that these are facts and not observations, cough up some stats. Anyway in the clubs I go to your average pokie player seems predominantly Anglo Saxon.

 

[genoshan]

I wonder if Benny Elias will chip in from the $21k he gets per month ?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Apologies, im just not quite so sure why the nationality of who gambles is quite relevant. Carry on with your casually racist, sterotyping lifestyle.

I didn't take you for the limp wristed PC type, but that's what's great about this forum, it keeps throwing up surprises.

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So now you're trying to throw a homosexual insult. What if i was actually gay, would you wanna laugh and persecute me for that? Got news for you champ, idk what yr you just time warped in from, but in 2014, being referred to as Gay isn't an insult as it once might have been. If you see it as an insult, you clearly are some kind of bigot.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Apologies, im just not quite so sure why the nationality of who gambles is quite relevant. Carry on with your casually racist, sterotyping lifestyle.

I didn't take you for the limp wristed PC type, but that's what's great about this forum, it keeps throwing up surprises.

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So now you're trying to throw a homosexual insult. What if i was actually gay, would you wanna laugh and persecute me for that? Got news for you champ, idk what yr you just time warped in from, but in 2014, being referred to as Gay isn't an insult as it once might have been. If you see it as an insult, you clearly are some kind of bigot.

I had always interpreted "limp wristed" as weak or spineless. i.e. "to put in a limp wristed effort."

If there is a homosexual connotation to it, that's only a recent redefinition.