Tigers interested in RTS

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Liddle needs to put on weight. He makes cameron smith look like the Rock. He wont hold up for a full season the way he is.

Hahaha too funny!!!!! Giving credit where it is due. Having a couple of bourbons. Family drama. StArting pissing myself when I say this! Well done. Good call. When Liddle is back our perception and comments no doubt will change!
 
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Brooks to hooker - Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

Not a good enough defender.

What is wrong with Liddle??????

I don't see the point of Brooks at hooker but this is an interesting one, re his defence. My view, possibly controversial, is that it is generally easier to defend in the guts as you big men on both sides of you and it is very hard for the attacking team to isolate you. Even when they do, at least there is only one option … run straight at you.

Brooks defensive problems come from when he makes the wrong call and then as his body in the wrong position to bear the attackers weight. I doubt you would see that problem in the middle of the park.

But yes, like you I would much prefer seeing Liddle as our 9 for the foreseeable future.

Absolutely Brooks could handle defending in the middle. Just as well as any small hooker. I wouldn't suggest playing him in front of Liddle either but think he may have to move positions to continue his career.

He is a nugget with good speed also tackles well front on. Liddle was the best junior hooker coming through he has to be the future. You need a specialist these days I don’t think Brooks has the toughness for the 9 jersey.

You might right about toughness. I just think if he has another average season in the halves his options as a halfback may dry up.
 
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I don't see the point of Brooks at hooker but this is an interesting one, re his defence. My view, possibly controversial, is that it is generally easier to defend in the guts as you big men on both sides of you and it is very hard for the attacking team to isolate you. Even when they do, at least there is only one option … run straight at you.

Brooks defensive problems come from when he makes the wrong call and then as his body in the wrong position to bear the attackers weight. I doubt you would see that problem in the middle of the park.

But yes, like you I would much prefer seeing Liddle as our 9 for the foreseeable future.

Absolutely Brooks could handle defending in the middle. Just as well as any small hooker. I wouldn't suggest playing him in front of Liddle either but think he may have to move positions to continue his career.

He is a nugget with good speed also tackles well front on. Liddle was the best junior hooker coming through he has to be the future. You need a specialist these days I don’t think Brooks has the toughness for the 9 jersey.

You might right about toughness. I just think if he has another average season in the halves his options as a halfback may dry up.

I think Brooks has a good year. First full season with a decent coach and he has Benji and Reynolds to assist. If he can’t get it done with this forward pack he’s done.
 
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Absolutely Brooks could handle defending in the middle. Just as well as any small hooker. I wouldn't suggest playing him in front of Liddle either but think he may have to move positions to continue his career.

He is a nugget with good speed also tackles well front on. Liddle was the best junior hooker coming through he has to be the future. You need a specialist these days I don’t think Brooks has the toughness for the 9 jersey.

You might right about toughness. I just think if he has another average season in the halves his options as a halfback may dry up.

I think Brooks has a good year. First full season with a decent coach and he has Benji and Reynolds to assist. If he can’t get it done with this forward pack he’s done.

I really hope he does. You can see he has the ability but lacking in confidence.
 
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From what I've been told talks are progressing very well.

Good to hear you are usually on the ball. RTS would one of the first players we attract sought after by numerous teams. Aside from the player it would be a good sign that the days of quality players avoiding WT are over.

Good point about being the first highly sought after player to sign here, would change the landscape completely for us

IC's presence as coach has changed the perception of the club in the eyes of players imo. His ability to get the best from players and the loyalty players such as Matulino and Packer have demonstrated towards him puts us in a good position to recruit players.
 
Liddle has apparently put on 5kgs in the off season. He could manage 35-40 tackles a game when he was mid 80kgs. He's now at 91kg which is pretty good. He'll fill out a bit more still over the next year or two too.

As a comparison Smith is 92kgs.
 
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Liddle has apparently put on 5kgs in the off season. He could manage 35-40 tackles a game when he was mid 80kgs. He's now at 91kg which is pretty good. He'll fill out a bit more still over the next year or two too.

As a comparison Smith is 92kgs.

is liddle actually our first choice hooker if fit???
 
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Liddle has apparently put on 5kgs in the off season. He could manage 35-40 tackles a game when he was mid 80kgs. He's now at 91kg which is pretty good. He'll fill out a bit more still over the next year or two too.

As a comparison Smith is 92kgs.

is liddle actually our first choice hooker if fit???

Absolutely.
 
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Liddle has apparently put on 5kgs in the off season. He could manage 35-40 tackles a game when he was mid 80kgs. He's now at 91kg which is pretty good. He'll fill out a bit more still over the next year or two too.

As a comparison Smith is 92kgs.

is liddle actually our first choice hooker if fit???

Absolutely.

I dont see why he should be. He has performed very little to prove he is even capable of being a consistant first grader let alone a lay down first choice in the sport's most complex and dynamic position. I hope to be proven wrong as I only see an adequate player in him, not the potential superstar others do.
 
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Liddle has apparently put on 5kgs in the off season. He could manage 35-40 tackles a game when he was mid 80kgs. He's now at 91kg which is pretty good. He'll fill out a bit more still over the next year or two too.

As a comparison Smith is 92kgs.

is liddle actually our first choice hooker if fit???

Absolutely.

I dont see why he should be. He has performed very little to prove he is even capable of being a consistant first grader let alone a lay down first choice in the sport's most complex and dynamic position. I hope to be proven wrong as I only see an adequate player in him, not the potential superstar others do.

Superior to Mcilwrick in attack even
In his rookie year. With added muscle his technique in defence is good he will be a solid first grader. IF he stands up and delivers it frees a bench spot for Marshall we can’t carry two hookers.
 
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is liddle actually our first choice hooker if fit???

Absolutely.

I dont see why he should be. He has performed very little to prove he is even capable of being a consistant first grader let alone a lay down first choice in the sport's most complex and dynamic position. I hope to be proven wrong as I only see an adequate player in him, not the potential superstar others do.

Superior to Mcilwrick in attack even
In his rookie year. With added muscle his technique in defence is good he will be a solid first grader. IF he stands up and delivers it frees a bench spot for Marshall we can’t carry two hookers.

Liddle has increased his weight from 85Kg to 91Kg, so he has put on a bit of muscle. I see in him, with the benefit of a couple of seasons in NRL, a future Blues hooker. You'll see.
 
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Absolutely.

I dont see why he should be. He has performed very little to prove he is even capable of being a consistant first grader let alone a lay down first choice in the sport's most complex and dynamic position. I hope to be proven wrong as I only see an adequate player in him, not the potential superstar others do.

Superior to Mcilwrick in attack even
In his rookie year. With added muscle his technique in defence is good he will be a solid first grader. IF he stands up and delivers it frees a bench spot for Marshall we can’t carry two hookers.

Liddle has increased his weight from 85Kg to 91Kg, so he has put on a bit of muscle. I see in him, with the benefit of a couple of seasons in NRL, a future Blues hooker. You'll see.

I agree with you I rate Liddle has all the skills.
That’s a lot of muscle for a young guy 6kgs on a 6’0 frame is a lot of hard work over a hot summer, Impressive. Looks more solid on the Tigers website pre season photos.
 
…back on track. from NRL.com
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Keeping RTS at Warriors a collective effort: Iro
Author Joel Gould Timestamp Tue 13 Feb 2018, 06:00 AM

Tuivasa-Sheck addresses future rumours
Whether the quest to keep Roger Tuivasa-Sheck in Warriors colours beyond 2018 succeeds will ultimately be a collective effort, insists the club's assistant coach Tony Iro.

With the off-contract star being courted by rugby union and other NRL clubs, the talk about the future of the man known as "RTS" will continue until he puts pen to paper.

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"Roger is a marquee guy who we want to stick around with the club because he is the captain, a good leader and he is only going to grow in that role because he is still young," Iro told NRL.com.
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"There is also an understanding that individuals will have reasons to do what they want to.

"As a club we have to be doing the best we can, firstly as a team and building a culture where players like Roger want to stay.

"If that is successful, then the rest looks after itself. I don't think we are going into the season just thinking about how we can make Roger stay. That is up to the whole organisation in making it a place and environment where people don't want to leave."

The speculation surrounding a possible Tuivasa-Sheck move to rugby's Auckland Blues was associated with the allure of a gig with the All Blacks and a Rugby World Cup berth in 2019.

The All Blacks are a powerful and ever-present force in New Zealand life and culture but Iro doesn't lay awake at night worrying about losing players to the rugby union powerhouse.

"To be perfectly honest, I don't really think about it," Iro said.

"Yeah, I imagine the All Blacks are an attraction but you have got to be a pretty special athlete to first of all be presented with the opportunity, and then make the most of it.

"The games aren't as close as what people think. I know the best athletes can transition but until you make the jump, and it is usually a big jump, you are going into the unknown and there will always be that element of risk.
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"Is it an issue? I don't call it an issue because the number of players going across has been limited. Sonny Bill [Williams] is obviously one who has made a strong transition into both but he was a pretty special athlete and there aren't too many built like him."

Former Kwi international Gary Freeman saw signs last year that Tuivasa-Sheck was ready to return to his best after a knee injury ruined his 2016 season.

"It takes a full year to get back to your best from a full knee reconstruction, but in the last five or six games of last year, and for the Kiwis, I saw signs in Roger of what he is going to be like this year, Freeman said.

"The way he was running the football back suggested he was 10 or 15 per cent off his best, but after a full pre-season under his belt he will be primed for round one. I think he is going to have a cracker of a season."

Iro agreed with Freeman's assessment, suggesting Tuivasa-Sheck's battles were not restricted to the physical elements.

"When you suffer from an ACL there is a timeframe where not just the body, but also the mind has got to heal as well," Iro said.

"Roger is training great at the moment and he looks and sounds really driven, which is him anyway, but I think he is looking to really do something after what has been a pretty disappointing two seasons for him, and that is rubbing off on the group.
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"I think that some of the bodies we have put around him like Blake Green, Adam Blair and Tohu Harris are just as driven.

"They have come from successful environments and their impact on the group has been really good.

"That will take some pressure off Roger too because he has some real genuine voices there who are talking the same language, and as a young captain that will help him immensely."
 

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