Tigers May Turn to Brown Or Parish

[innsaneink]

Well Nathan brown coachedmthemdragons to 4 finals series in 6 years and had a 53 percent winning record Which isn't too bad nrl wise especially given he was a very young rolkie coach. Although I would still defiantly go for Steve folkes -56 percent winning record as head coach And 8 finals from 10 including a premiership , then did great things with our defence last couple of years. Mind you no matter who the coach is if we have an injury run like we did this year des hauler would still not get us to the finals -although he seems to have a system in place which prevents injuries as at both manly and the dogs he has done a great job keeping them on the field so perhaps it is science we are missing.

Not often I agree with you - well, never actually….so its surprising to read a good post imo

 

[kh_canada]

Agreed with above posts.
I don't like using injuries as an excuse but it affects us when everyone play out of position due to injuries.
Folkes would do a decent job.
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[tigerbalm]

Dessie's science was feeding the players calfs blood wasn't it? seems to work.
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[snowleopard]

The problem we had this year wasn't so much injuries it was Sheens decision to adopt the philosophy of you are better off having your most experienced players on the field in any position than leave key players in key positions and find replacements from Bret or NYC. It will be interesting if both Bret & NYC go deep into the finals cause if there is enough talent to do that you would expect the same players could have done a job for us in 1st Grade. Not to mention the positive impact it has on players in lower grades as it shows they have some chance of getting a game in the top team to show their ability. Same could be said for the bench players that were rarely used.

 

[weststigers4life]

Dessie's science was feeding the players calfs blood wasn't it? seems to work.
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Or maybe he stole the secret receipe off Grand Mother Hopoate who use to make the team a special drink for the players after every Manly win.
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[alex]

Well Nathan brown coachedmthemdragons to 4 finals series in 6 years and had a 53 percent winning record Which isn't too bad nrl wise especially given he was a very young rolkie coach. Although I would still defiantly go for Steve folkes -56 percent winning record as head coach And 8 finals from 10 including a premiership , then did great things with our defence last couple of years. Mind you no matter who the coach is if we have an injury run like we did this year des hauler would still not get us to the finals -although he seems to have a system in place which prevents injuries as at both manly and the dogs he has done a great job keeping them on the field so perhaps it is science we are missing.

As I mentioned in another thread, injuries shouldn't be used as an excuse. Manly had a terrible run with injuries this year. Glenn Stewart, Tony Williams and Kieran Foran all spent time on the sidelines, as well as a number of their players being away on rep duties, and still made the Top 4\. It's about how you structure and use your depth. Liam Foran was a straight swap for Kieran for the 6 weeks he was out.

The Bulldogs didn't go through unscathed either. They lost 4 or 5 starting outside backs, including their two top choice goal kickers, and rectified the situation. Kris Keating was also missing for a number of games as well.

Every team has injuries through the year, it's inevitable. But Sheens reacts poorly to injuries. While I love Liam Fulton, we were never going to have a crack at the title with him at 5/8\. Sheens then moved Moltzen to 5/8 and back to Lawrence for the final round. There should have been a plan in place - if we lose a half, player X moves in. Train them there with the first choice player throughout the season so the change is as seamless as possible should the need for them to play arise.

 

[weststigers4life]

The problem we had this year wasn't so much injuries it was Sheens decision to adopt the philosophy of you are better off having your most experienced players on the field in any position than leave key players in key positions and find replacements from Bret or NYC. It will be interesting if both Bret & NYC go deep into the finals cause if there is enough talent to do that you would expect the same players could have done a job for us in 1st Grade. Not to mention the positive impact it has on players in lower grades as it shows they have some chance of getting a game in the top team to show their ability. Same could be said for the bench players that were rarely used.

Bingo or dropping players for continued poor form.
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[innsaneink]

I think the time is perfect for Nathan Brown, hes served quite an apprenticeship, has learnt the hard way both here and in England….he is a very capable coach with a good record...and he has some links to the club (friendships)

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Does anyone know Terry Matterson's coaching record/credentials? He must be a better option than Brown.
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[Rambo2714]

Story is by Phil Rothfield , need I say anymore ?
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[alex]

Mick Potter's future is still unclear at Bradford. Saw a story this morning that the Catalans Dragons may want him back after Robinson's departure to the Roosters. Would be happy to see Potter at the club

 

[Marshall_magic]

**Nathan Brown isn't that bad a coach, he's done well over in England**. His Dragons stint was a little disappointing, but he was thrust into the position way too early.

That might be true but comparing Super League to NRL is like comparing Julia Gillard to Miranda Kerr.

I don't reckon he would have much success over here. Just my opinion

Comparing the coaches is different to players. The standard may be lower over there for the players, but the coaches are all working with similar talent. Michael Maguire was signed on his Super League performance and has achieved some good results over here, so it isn't impossible for Brown to do the same.

 

[Flippedy]

Matty Parish has good bloodlines … His dad Don took the young Magpies to the 1974 preliminary final in a wonderful run from mid table halfway through the year ... Arrgghh .... Great memories ... The 23-20 win over Manly an absolute highlight.

... Sorry I went off on a bit of a sentimental tangent, what was the question again ?

Ah Snoddy, I was at the SCG that day - behind the goal posts right where Branighan, I think, thankfully had a try disallowed near fulltime? Is that right? It was a long time ago and my memory is not what it used to be, but I remember the win and the score - a highlight indeed, what a game! :smiley:

 

[Snodgrass]

You got it Flip … I was there too ... A magical day for a ten year old. We fought back from 15-4 down and hung on at the death against Fulton, Lowe, O'Neill, Reilly, Eadie and co, to knock the premiers out. Legend has it that as the young Magpies repelled wave after wave of last ditch Manly attack, Donny Parish couldn't bear to watch any longer and the coach actually went an sat in the changing room toilet, head in his hands for the last 5 minutes of the game. Great memories indeed.
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.... Sorry, off subject a bit ... But what the hell

 

[happy_tiger]

A good coach is a good coach whether it is NRL ,ESL , QRL or NSW Cup If they get results they must be doing something right

Coaching is being able to get the team in the right frame of mind , giving them believe and confidence they can achieve and having faith in the coach that they are pointing you in the right direction no matter what the instructions

If you can do all of that and have a reasonable playing roster and don't get crushed by injuries you will do OK

 

[Karma_Tiger]

I think the time is perfect for Nathan Brown, hes served quite an apprenticeship, has learnt the hard way both here and in England….he is a very capable coach with a good record...and he has some links to the club (friendships)

I dont think that whole friendships thing has worked in the past re blair.I want a coach that will put fear into the joint not another personality to add to the boys club.To me the Wests tigers are currently being run like the australian cricket team in the mid 80's when it was harder to get out of the team than into it despite our wouful performances.

 

[black_and_white_tige]

A good coach is a good coach whether it is NRL ,ESL , QRL or NSW Cup If they get results they must be doing something right

**Coaching is being able to get the team in the right frame of mind , giving them believe and confidence they can achieve and having faith in the coach that they are pointing you in the right direction no matter what the instructions**

If you can do all of that and have a reasonable playing roster and don't get crushed by injuries you will do OK

Your spot on Happy and I have been wondering this same thing for a while now. Do we have a motivator ( apart from Sheens :laughing: ) who gets the players in the right psych or frame of mind prior to each game. If we have then he needs to be sacked as well.
I heard Adam Macdougall on the Sunday footy show saying that Des Hassler has a motivator on his staff that does exactly that, gets the team in the right frame of mind and builds their confidence and belief in each other every week. If you can get their minds in the zone prior to the game, you've won half the battle
Something I think we are in desperate need of.

 

[Fraze23]

Does anyone know Terry Matterson's coaching record/credentials? He must be a better option than Brown.
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Castleford 2006, 2008-11
G. W. L. D. W%
148 58 86 4 39.2%
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[Snodgrass]

A good coach is a good coach whether it is NRL ,ESL , QRL or NSW Cup If they get results they must be doing something right

Coaching is being able to get the team in the right frame of mind , giving them believe and confidence they can achieve and having faith in the coach that they are pointing you in the right direction no matter what the instructions

If you can do all of that and have a reasonable playing roster and don't get crushed by injuries you will do OK

How about the CCDJRL ?
Only there's a bloke ( also named Nathan) who managed to get the Gosford Kariong Storm under 11(2)s into the semi finals this year and earnt the team elevation into division 1 for next season … A terrific coaching performance given the smallness of the Narara based club ... He's a lovely bloke and would jump at the chance to oversee operations at Concord ... You could probably get him on an incentive based deal revolving around petrol money and a handful of signed jerseys etc ...

Worth a thought.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Does anyone know Terry Matterson's coaching record/credentials? He must be a better option than Brown.
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Castleford 2006, 2008-11
G. W. L. D. W%
148 58 86 4 39.2%
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Thanks Fraze. Not a good record huh! So much for my mate Terry.
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