Tigers showed Marshall the Money - Then cut it in Half

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Like almost everything else in life, the Benji Marshall car crash at the Wests Tigers can be compared to a scene from Jerry Maguire.

Matt Cushman (Beau Bridges) is the father of the No.1 pick in the NFL draft, and a desperate Jerry Maguire (Tom Cruise) wants to know if he can confirm he will be the young star's agent.

''What you do have is my whole word,'' vows Matt Cushman. ''And it's stronger than oak.''

In rugby league, someone's word is barely as strong as balsa wood. Even when it's in writing, even blood.
A few weeks ago, Marshall was ''led to believe'' he had struck a deal that would commit him to the Tigers until the end of 2017 that was reportedly worth $4 million.

Given his form in recent seasons - especially this one - it seemed exceedingly generous. That ''handshake agreement'' was apparently struck between Marshall's eccentric manager, Martin Tauber, and the Tigers' former chief executive Stephen Humphreys.

When Humphreys resigned soon after, club management made an offer that was considerably less. Actually, it was cut in half. About $2 million until the end of 2015.

For weeks, the Tigers were confident the player who has sold more jerseys, flags and season tickets than any other individual in the tumultuous history of the joint venture would be content with that.

Then, on Monday, Marshall stunned Tigers management when he requested a release from the final two years of his contract.

When Fairfax Media broke the story that night, it triggered divided opinion from Tigers and rugby league supporters on social media.

In one corner, Marshall was branded a fading superstar who has put himself ahead of the club and should have been delighted with the $2 million deal. Good riddance.

In the other, the firm view was the club had treated him appallingly because it had failed to honour the initial deal, inflated though it may have been.

(In the third corner, Dragons fans sniggered it was karma because they had seen Tim Moltzen renege on a deal to join their club for the 2012 season, most likely on the advice of his best mate Marshall).

Tauber insisted on Sky Sports Radio that Humphreys shook hands on the first deal ''on two occasions''. Humphreys, who attended Marshall's wedding in Byron Bay in March this year, did not respond to interview requests.

But he has insisted to his former colleagues that no deal had been agreed to and that an offer of that significance would need to be rubber-stamped by the board.

It is also believed the $4 million deal would never have been squeezed into the Tigers' bulging salary cap, which raises curiosity about why it would ever be agreed to in the first place.

Rival player managers were staggered that Tauber had never asked for the deal to be put in writing, and say it is normal business practice to do so.

Either way, if you talk to sources at the Tigers and those close to Marshall, it becomes apparent the player himself thought the initial $4 million deal was as solid as oak.

As Jerry Maguire told Matt Cushman when he knew he'd been duped: ''I'm still sort of moved by your, 'My word is stronger than oak' thing.''

Those who condemn Marshall as greedy and disloyal might consider if they would stay at their employer if a significant pay increase had been offered - only for it to be withdrawn. You suspect other factors are at play.

Marshall has seen coach Tim Sheens, chairman Dave Trodden, Humphreys and a score of his teammates leave the club in the past year.

A cultural shift is under way, and some argue the power that resided with Marshall and captain Robbie Farah is finally shifting back to where it belongs - with the coach, Mick Potter, who had the temerity to bench the five-eighth against South Sydney earlier this season.

Where to now for Benji?

Informed on Monday night that Marshall had asked for a release, one NRL coach laughed: ''Well, he's stitched up a deal somewhere else.''

Apparently not.

Early discussions have been held with the Waratahs and the Melbourne Rebels - as well as other Super Rugby franchises, including the Auckland-based Blues - but no offers have been tabled.

Some wonder how the Waratahs can fit him into their salary cap. As for the Rebels, they are hesitant to hastily sign an untried rugby league playmaker after they've just purged themselves of wayward stars James O'Connor and Kurtley Beale.

There is also a deeper issue.

Should Marshall sign with an Australian franchise, any deal will rely heavily on an ARU top-up.

That prises open wounds on several fronts.

Several Wallabies presently wear the gold jumper without a contract beefed up by the ARU.

Is the ARU prepared to do that for a convert from the rival code, even if Marshall will never play for the Wallabies if his criticism of Kiwi-born James Tamou playing for the Kangaroos last year is any indication?

Many in rugby union suspect new chief executive Bill Pulver is prepared to take that leap of faith.

Just get it in writing.

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Love reading Andrew Webster .....just wished more Sport writers were as good
 
n rugby league, someone's word is barely as strong as balsa wood. Even when it's in writing, even blood.
A few weeks ago, Marshall was ''led to believe'' he had struck a deal that would commit him to the Tigers until the end of 2017 that was reportedly worth $4 million.
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Given his form in recent seasons - especially this one - it seemed exceedingly generous. That ''handshake agreement'' was apparently struck between Marshall's eccentric manager, Martin Tauber, and the Tigers' former chief executive Stephen Humphreys.

Jeez …....the first rule of contractual law.

If it isn't written down and signed then it doesn't exist.

Does anyone else think its strange tauber and marshal talk about agreements and handshakes and deals. And how poorly done by they have been, hinting at betrayal and not being looked after.

However marshal has a contractual agreement for the next two years but is happy to break that. Seems completely hypocritical to me.

My prediction is if he goes to rugby he will fail at rugby at any level other than Japanese club level. In two years time he will retire and try to reignite a career on the footy show............the sad part for marshal is that any credibility he will have will be 6 or 7 years old by then and long gooooooooone.

Either that or it is an elaborate ruse to get out of his WT contract and he signs with another NRL team. Either way he retires not as a champion but a chump.
 
Just on the surface, I find it hard to believe anything from Tauber. Did the handshake and amount talked about actually happen?

I think Benji is listening to some bad advice.
 
Tauber is a maggot .His looking after his last years not his clients.It was a no brainier Benji has now killed what he was worth after retirement. Better get a degree or line up a job Benji the millions won't ast till your 65 not without an income.
 
Marshall exit request rocks Tigers
July 16, 2013 - 5:47PM
Ian McCullough and Steve Jancetic
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It's not often State of Origin deciders take a back seat 24 hours before kick-off, but Benji Marshall's request for a release from the final two years of his Wests Tigers contract has sent shockwaves around the NRL.

Tigers skipper Robbie Farah admitted he was stunned by Marshall's decision and Tigers' acting CEO Grant Mayer had been expecting the 28-year-old to sign a new contract this week.

Marshall announced his decision on Monday night after his advisors failed to agree on terms of a new deal with the Tigers board - who've yet to accept his request.

The Kiwi playmaker's manager Martin Tauber said his client needed to move from the Tigers to rediscover his mojo and had sounded out the NSW Waratahs' league convert Israel Folau about playing the 15-man game.

Waratahs chief executive Jason Allen almost immediately expressed an interest in signing Marshall with the Auckland Blues also believed to be interested.

"There could be a slight opportunity but there are a lot of things that need to fall into place and come our way with Benji Marshall," Allen said.

"We've got some very big decisions pending with Israel Folau and Kurtley Beale and they are our priorities right now.

"But we can't close the door just yet."

Mayer said the Tigers had honoured their side of an agreement made by his predecessor Stephen Humphreys by offering the playmaker an upgraded deal.

"I think Benji is looking at his long-term future and he has that right," Mayer said.

"He clearly had that opportunity this year to sit down and seek a regrade of his deal. It obviously hasn't hit the numbers or hit the expectation that he had.

"The former CEO gave his manager a letter of commitment that he would regrade his contract once the new TV deal was done and we've honoured that commitment."

However, Tauber indicated it was short of what had been formally agreed to by Humphreys.

"The protracted negotiations began in January and here we are in July and we still don't have a firm and fixed agreement," Tauber said.

"We've had handshake deals that under the previous CEO never eventuated before he resigned … and that hasn't been fulfilled.

"I understand that business is business and the club have still given us what is still a very healthy offer but Benji has made his decision."

The news is a big blow to the Tigers, who are struggling financially and are now resigned to losing one of the most recognisable faces in the game.

Farah said he was be bitterly disappointed to see his long-time teammate leave and his departure would be a huge loss for the NRL.

"No one is bigger than the footy club ... but it's not the best scenario. I always thought Benji would see out his career playing next to me," Farah said.

"We've been through good times together and bad times. But I am shocked, I thought he was going to stay."

"It's a massive loss for the game, you want your best players playing.

"I've played for more than 10 years with the guy and contrary to public belief I am close mates with Benji."
 
Waratahs want Benji Marshall
July 16, 2013 - 4:13PM
Ian McCullough
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The NSW Waratahs have thrown their hat in the ring for Benji Marshall as the rugby league superstar prepares to quit the NRL after this season.

"We've been chatting with his manager now for a couple of years and we are definitely interested in bringing Benji Marshall to the Waratahs," said Waratahs chief executive Jason Allen.

However, he made it clear the Waratahs' biggest immediate priorities were retaining league convert Israel Folau - sure to get an upgraded deal after a stellar first season - and signing free agent, Wallabies fullback Kurtley Beale.

Marshall's manager Martin Tauber made it clear on Tuesday that the 28-year-old playmaker was intent on a switch to rugby union after seeking a release from Wests Tigers, his home for the past 13 years.

"He just feels he needs to get his mojo back and feels he's going to have to do that in rugby," said Tauber.

It sparked renewed speculation about New Zealander Marshall's next destination, with the Waratahs and Auckland-based fellow Super Rugby club the Blues to the fore after confirming talks.

While Marshall may struggle to match the money he was offered to stay at Wests Tigers - he could possibly top up a Super Rugby deal with a stint in the lucrative Japanese club rugby competition.

Tauber dropped a tantalising hint that he could head to the Waratahs.

"He's already had a conversation with Izzy (Folau) about playing rugby - they'd be a devastating duo," Tauber said.

The prospect of Marshall linking with the likes of Folau and Beale would delight Waratahs fans but Allen did not offer great cause for confidence.

"There could be a slight opportunity but there are a lot of things that need to fall into place and come our way with Benji Marshall," said Allen.

"We've got some very big decisions pending with Israel Folau and Kurtley Beale and they are our priorities right now.

"But we can't close the door just yet."

The Melbourne Rebels were quick to dismiss any suggestion of chasing Marshall - or any link with their shock decisions to part with wayward Wallabies utility backs James O'Connor and Beale in the past fortnight.

Blues coach Sir John Kirwan hoped to lure Marshall back to New Zealand.

"I've spoken to him. He's a guy who is excited about the next stage of his professional career," Kirwan told Fairfax on Tuesday.

"It didn't get down to whether we were a part of his mix.

"What I got out of the conversation was he was genuinely thinking about changes in his life.

"I've spoken to his manager and we're part of what he is thinking moving forward. We're in the mix I'm sure.

"He'll be assessing what's on the table and I'm sure the Blues aren't the only people talking to him."

Former Wallabies coach John Connolly believed Marshall could make a successful transition but said the biggest adjustment would be getting used to the closeness of the defensive line.

"There is not as much space to operate in, in rugby and that is something he will have to get used to," Connolly said. "He will have to learn how to create that space.

"Like Quade Cooper he has a good left and right pass that can create space for his outside men.

"There will be a transition but I am sure he will make a success of it."
 
Rugby circles Benji as Smith steps in
July 17, 2013
Glenn Jackson
Rugby League Writer
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Benji Marshall's manager held talks with three Super Rugby outfits on Tuesday, and confirmed Japan was an option, as NRL chief executive Dave Smith attempted to intervene to prevent the five-eighth from switching codes.

Smith telephoned Marshall on Tuesday in an attempt to keep him in the NRL, but as rugby union clubs zeroed in following the Kiwi's request for a release from Wests Tigers, he also conceded following that conversation his efforts would probably be in vain.

Marshall's agent Martin Tauber confirmed he had discussions with officials from the NSW Waratahs, Melbourne Rebels and the Auckland Blues on Tuesday, but maintained a decision on the Kiwi's future was still weeks away.
"He's a guy who is excited about the next stage of his professional career": Blues coach Sir John Kirwan.

Tauber sent release paperwork to Tigers chief operating officer Grant Mayer on Tuesday morning, officially declaring Marshall would reject an upgraded deal for 2013-15 worth just more than $2 million in order to likely switch codes. ''We've now had an approach from the Waratahs, which we're keen to pursue, and I've also had a further conversation with the chief executive of the Auckland Blues [Andy Dalton], and we're continuing those talks,'' Tauber said. ''But nothing is firm or fixed.''

Tauber also said he had held discussions with Rob Clarke, the chief executive of the Rebels. Fairfax Media has also been told Clarke has spoken to ARU boss Bill Pulver about the potential signature.

The Tigers sub-committee of Mayer, coach Mick Potter and a member of both Wests and Balmain met on Tuesday night with recommendations put forward for the board to vote on on Wednesday morning. Mayer said the club wanted a decision in time for Friday's Leichhardt Oval match against the Warriors, for Marshall's sake.

As some, including Tauber, suggested NRL officials could have done more to keep Marshall in the game, Smith said he had previously offered support to the Tigers in their attempts to re-sign the 28-year-old.

''We have been in contact with the Wests Tigers in relation to Benji's negotiations over recent weeks and have offered support if needed,'' he said. ''Our chief operating officer Jim Doyle, who knows Benji closely through his time at the NZRL, had already attempted to contact Benji a number of times over recent weeks.

''Both Jim and I have spoken to Benji [on Tuesday] and made it clear we'd be happy to work through any issue but sadly it

seems he is pretty clear about his intentions. It's unfortunate to see what has happened here because Benji has had such a great career on and off the field at the Tigers.

''It would be great to see him stay in the game and we are happy to talk with him at any time.''

Despite speculation to the contrary, Marshall's future remains up in the air. He would like to remain in Sydney and has spoken to Israel Folau about the Waratahs and union, but has also had a phone conversation with Blues coach Sir John Kirwan. The Rebels might also be a real option, given the club has recently lost Kurtley Beale and James O'Connor, and would presumably be in a position to offer a more lucrative deal.

The Waratahs are attempting to sign Beale and re-sign fellow Wallaby Folau, which would make finding extra money for Marshall difficult. He would probably need to top up any deal with the Waratahs with a contract in Japanese rugby next year, something Tauber said was an option.

Waratahs boss Jason Allen confirmed interest in the playmaker. ''We've been chatting with his manager now for a couple of years and we are definitely interested in bringing Benji Marshall to the Waratahs,'' he said.

''There could be a slight opportunity but there are a lot of things that need to fall into place and come our way with Benji Marshall. We've got some very big decisions pending with Israel Folau and Kurtley Beale and they are our priorities. But we can't close the door just yet.''

Kirwan confirmed he had spoken to Marshall. ''He's a guy who is excited about the next stage of his professional career,'' he said.
 
Haha

"Just get it in writing"

Humpty and his forever locked pen drawer.

Sheens:- "I'll walk if we dont make the semis"
get it in writing

Beau:- "I agreed to terms"
Get it in writing

Benji:- "We had a handshake deal"
Pen please.

Hopefully Moltzen is gone and the club id forever rid of Humpreys & tauber…two snakes
 
@innsaneink said:
Haha

"Just get it in writing"

Humpty and his forever locked pen drawer.

Sheens:- "I'll walk if we dont make the semis"
get it in writing

Beau:- "I agreed to terms"
Get it in writing

Benji:- "We had a handshake deal"
Pen please.

Hopefully Moltzen is gone and the club id forever rid of Humpreys & tauber…two snakes

Yeah agree Ink , but some of us old schoolers are still of the "my word is my bond"

When it comes to the crunch even if it is in writing it can mean little Damned if you do ,damned if you don't
 
@Tigerdave said:
Just on the surface, I find it hard to believe anything from Tauber. Did the handshake and amount talked about actually happen?

I think Benji is listening to some bad advice.

I reckon that Benji is really doing himself a disservice here. I'm starting to think good riddance. He should be mature enough to realize that he isn't worth anything like $4 million dollars let alone the $2 million he was offered.

I also think that Tauber is really stuffing this up. He probably doesn't care because he like Sheens looks ready for retirement but Benji to me seems to be throwing away big dollars.
 
[quote="A few weeks ago, Marshall was ''led to believe'' he had struck a deal that would commit him to the Tigers until the end of 2017 that was reportedly worth $4 million.

Given his form in recent seasons - especially this one - it seemed exceedingly generous. That ''handshake agreement'' was apparently struck between Marshall's eccentric manager, Martin Tauber, and the Tigers' former chief executive Stephen Humphreys.

When Humphreys resigned soon after, club management made an offer that was considerably less. **Actually, it was cut in half. About $2 million until the end of 2015**.

I always thought mathematics was my one strong suite.
If the original offer to Benji was $4 million to the end of 2017, this is $1 million per year.
The "final" offer was $2 million to the end of 2015\. THIS IS $1 MILLION PER YEAR!
In my view the title of this thread is questionable.
Since it has been reported that the NRL tried to contact Benji (several times, I think) and they did not get a return call, what was the game that Tauber/Marshall were playing?
If Tauber/Marshall were seriously negotiating with the Wests Tigers, why did they not accept the upgrade for 2014-2015 and look to extend the contract to 2017 in the near future?
I wonder how serious the whole thing was being treated.
 
How does that saying go? A handshake deal is only as good as the paper it's not written on?
 

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