Tigers Spine

agree that we need to keep the spine intact. Disappointed that Doueihi wasn't more involved in the dying minutes. He needs to get his hands on the ball a lot more when we are close to the opponent's goal line. And he also needs to do most of the kicking.
I've heard good things about Simpkin's kicking game so I'm hoping that develops. A dummy half who can kick is an assest.
 
AD was our only half for the first 20 minutes. Every last tackle option involved AD. It was like we were giving Brooksy time to acclimatise just like the last 150+ games. Simpkin was a success, now give Madden a go (with Cini on the wing to replace Krapoa).
 
@snake said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340276) said:
@watersider said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340269) said:
Mbye should not ever play 7, that'd be a massive mistake. His organisation and direction is really poor and he has the same problem of Brooks of putting players under pressure with bad passing. at 13, Mbye is good and I see value in keeping him given the modern game.

Brooks was okay, but I still don't trust his decision making, had a few really bad passes, one turned into an error, players somehow held onto the ball on the others.

Doueihi was excellent again, unfortunately he barely touched the ball in the final 20. He's the sort of player who should be getting the ball, and demanding it at that time.

Yes, Laurie and Simpkin were very good. Simpkin fatigued looks a little error prone, but he was really classy all match.

Brooks does not make any decisions he catches passes and puts up crap kicks to be marked easily this is the weekly turn out .

None of brooks kicks were crap today . If you think that , give yourself a triple . That’s exactly what you want your half to do in a game like that .
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340256) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340248) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340240) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340235) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340227) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340225) said:
@cktiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340192) said:
@tyga said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340179) said:
The Tigers have to stick with the 1. Laurie 6. Douihei 7. Brooks 9. Simpkin for the year regardless of what happens. They need to build combinations for this season and yers ahead.

Brooks is the weak link. Think I’d prefer Mbye there or give the young bloke in reggies a shot.

Mbye .....defence is Brooks equal ....he has to get a shot ...we looked a completely different side with him in the middle being creative

Mbye isn't logical as he will be gone EOY.

He doesn't have to be if we improve greatly with Mbye at 7 and happy and playing well

That's a big if especially as Brooks has played well.

I played well in 86/87 ...Brooks played well in 2018 ....how far do we extend .....Gary Freeman was great in the 80's as well

**Brooks has played well for quite a few games this year.**

Agree and it's coming across a little vindictive to suggest he be dropped after tonight's performance.
Eveyone helped when it counted most and I think this has been our biggest issue with our ability to play consistently. Tonight reinforced building cohesion and getting our defensive structures right requires a collaborative effort.

C'mon we were unlucky tonight. For me, we were the better team and performed as a unit so while it doesn't get us the 2 points, it's the only thing matters when we've been playing so disjointed.
 
@69-05-41 said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340313) said:
AD was our only half for the first 20 minutes. Every last tackle option involved AD. It was like we were giving Brooksy time to acclimatise just like the last 150+ games. Simpkin was a success, now give Madden a go (with Cini on the wing to replace Krapoa).

No it’s cause the ball was on the right side of the field , and I’m assuming they were targeting that winger, which means it goes to AD.
 
@lauren said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340334) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340256) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340248) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340240) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340235) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340227) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340225) said:
@cktiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340192) said:
@tyga said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340179) said:
The Tigers have to stick with the 1. Laurie 6. Douihei 7. Brooks 9. Simpkin for the year regardless of what happens. They need to build combinations for this season and yers ahead.

Brooks is the weak link. Think I’d prefer Mbye there or give the young bloke in reggies a shot.

Mbye .....defence is Brooks equal ....he has to get a shot ...we looked a completely different side with him in the middle being creative

Mbye isn't logical as he will be gone EOY.

He doesn't have to be if we improve greatly with Mbye at 7 and happy and playing well

That's a big if especially as Brooks has played well.

I played well in 86/87 ...Brooks played well in 2018 ....how far do we extend .....Gary Freeman was great in the 80's as well

**Brooks has played well for quite a few games this year.**

Agree and it's coming across a little vindictive to suggest he be dropped after tonight's performance.
Eveyone helped when it counted most and I think this has been our biggest issue with our ability to play consistently. Tonight reinforced building cohesion and getting our defensive structures right requires a collaborative effort.

C'mon we were unlucky tonight. For me, we were the better team and performed as a unit so while it doesn't get us the 2 points, it's the only thing matters when we've been playing so disjointed.

Exactly Lauren
 
@lauren said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340334) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340256) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340248) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340240) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340235) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340227) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340225) said:
@cktiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340192) said:
@tyga said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340179) said:
The Tigers have to stick with the 1. Laurie 6. Douihei 7. Brooks 9. Simpkin for the year regardless of what happens. They need to build combinations for this season and yers ahead.

Brooks is the weak link. Think I’d prefer Mbye there or give the young bloke in reggies a shot.

Mbye .....defence is Brooks equal ....he has to get a shot ...we looked a completely different side with him in the middle being creative

Mbye isn't logical as he will be gone EOY.

He doesn't have to be if we improve greatly with Mbye at 7 and happy and playing well

That's a big if especially as Brooks has played well.

I played well in 86/87 ...Brooks played well in 2018 ....how far do we extend .....Gary Freeman was great in the 80's as well

**Brooks has played well for quite a few games this year.**

Agree and it's coming across a little vindictive to suggest he be dropped after tonight's performance.
Eveyone helped when it counted most and I think this has been our biggest issue with our ability to play consistently. Tonight reinforced building cohesion and getting our defensive structures right requires a collaborative effort.

C'mon we were unlucky tonight. For me, we were the better team and performed as a unit so while it doesn't get us the 2 points, it's the only thing matters when we've been playing so disjointed.

Great post Lauren.
 
@69-05-41 said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340313) said:
AD was our only half for the first 20 minutes. Every last tackle option involved AD. It was like we were giving Brooksy time to acclimatise just like the last 150+ games. Simpkin was a success, now give Madden a go (with Cini on the wing to replace Krapoa).


Thought Brooks was solid, Kepoa played well too. Not sure if Cini is the answer
 
@strongee said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340329) said:
@snake said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340276) said:
@watersider said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340269) said:
Mbye should not ever play 7, that'd be a massive mistake. His organisation and direction is really poor and he has the same problem of Brooks of putting players under pressure with bad passing. at 13, Mbye is good and I see value in keeping him given the modern game.

Brooks was okay, but I still don't trust his decision making, had a few really bad passes, one turned into an error, players somehow held onto the ball on the others.

Doueihi was excellent again, unfortunately he barely touched the ball in the final 20. He's the sort of player who should be getting the ball, and demanding it at that time.

Yes, Laurie and Simpkin were very good. Simpkin fatigued looks a little error prone, but he was really classy all match.

Brooks does not make any decisions he catches passes and puts up crap kicks to be marked easily this is the weekly turn out .

None of brooks kicks were crap today . If you think that , give yourself a triple . That’s exactly what you want your half to do in a game like that .

Thats every game you forgot to mention that .
 
@snake said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340366) said:
@strongee said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340329) said:
@snake said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340276) said:
@watersider said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340269) said:
Mbye should not ever play 7, that'd be a massive mistake. His organisation and direction is really poor and he has the same problem of Brooks of putting players under pressure with bad passing. at 13, Mbye is good and I see value in keeping him given the modern game.

Brooks was okay, but I still don't trust his decision making, had a few really bad passes, one turned into an error, players somehow held onto the ball on the others.

Doueihi was excellent again, unfortunately he barely touched the ball in the final 20. He's the sort of player who should be getting the ball, and demanding it at that time.

Yes, Laurie and Simpkin were very good. Simpkin fatigued looks a little error prone, but he was really classy all match.

Brooks does not make any decisions he catches passes and puts up crap kicks to be marked easily this is the weekly turn out .

None of brooks kicks were crap today . If you think that , give yourself a triple . That’s exactly what you want your half to do in a game like that .

Thats every game you forgot to mention that .

?
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340208) said:
@kazoo-kid said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340199) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340191) said:
Was interesting as Mbye also as a linking 13.

AD was clearly the main ball player / controlled the game in opp 20.

Laurie was the spark.

Mbye the link.

Brooks does not seem to have a leading role in that structure though. Which is probably a good thing. Madden actually might suit it more as he passes much better to his centers than Brooks does IMO.

1. Laurie
6 AD
7 Brooks / Madden
13 Mbye...we need a ball playing lock / Tuki when ready. The 13 is vital nowadays to the spine.
9. Jake

The game changed when Mbye came on in my opinion. Having a third playmaker is key in today's game.

Yep Mbye was important for us today. Brooks looks to be a passenger these days.

A ball playing lock is a bad use of the position for a team that scores lots of tries and leaks massively in defence. That is why Twal is there. Radley, Jurbo and Murray are all excellent defenders as well as offering some ballplaying in attack.

Receipts: Brooks 53, Doueihi 37, Mbye 21. The person with the highest number of receipts is controlling the game. A lot of Doueihi's receipts were from Brooks.
 
Wow the Halfback passed the ball..left and right..revolutionary..
 
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340235) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340227) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340225) said:
@cktiger said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340192) said:
@tyga said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340179) said:
The Tigers have to stick with the 1. Laurie 6. Douihei 7. Brooks 9. Simpkin for the year regardless of what happens. They need to build combinations for this season and yers ahead.

Brooks is the weak link. Think I’d prefer Mbye there or give the young bloke in reggies a shot.

Mbye .....defence is Brooks equal ....he has to get a shot ...we looked a completely different side with him in the middle being creative

Mbye isn't logical as he will be gone EOY.

He doesn't have to be if we improve greatly with Mbye at 7 and happy and playing well

I don't feel comfortable if we are placing any reliance on Mbye considering history to date.
 
@strongee said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340329) said:
@snake said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340276) said:
@watersider said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340269) said:
Mbye should not ever play 7, that'd be a massive mistake. His organisation and direction is really poor and he has the same problem of Brooks of putting players under pressure with bad passing. at 13, Mbye is good and I see value in keeping him given the modern game.

Brooks was okay, but I still don't trust his decision making, had a few really bad passes, one turned into an error, players somehow held onto the ball on the others.

Doueihi was excellent again, unfortunately he barely touched the ball in the final 20. He's the sort of player who should be getting the ball, and demanding it at that time.

Yes, Laurie and Simpkin were very good. Simpkin fatigued looks a little error prone, but he was really classy all match.

Brooks does not make any decisions he catches passes and puts up crap kicks to be marked easily this is the weekly turn out .

None of brooks kicks were crap today . If you think that , give yourself a triple . That’s exactly what you want your half to do in a game like that .

It's exactly what Jack Wighton did all match against Parramatta tonight, and yes Raiders lost, but he's the reigning Dally M.

It's almost entirely what Moses does every week, though I will concede he took a few effective runs this evening, mostly he catches/passes and kicks on the back of good go-forward.
 
Daine Laurie has to lift his defensive game though tonight, he missed every attempted cover tackle.
 
Ive been harsh on Brooks this year and after last week probably even lost my faith in madge. But tonight I think I see a bright future for our team.

1Laurie
6Douhei
7Brooks
9Simpkin

We don’t have better options and I think we need to let these combinations gel together. Mbye coming on as a roving playmaker is also key. If it’s not him then I can see that would be the role that someone like Hastings plays if he is here next year. Our forwards are young and will build the Platform for these guys. This year is gone, but if we perform like we did today we will rack up plenty of wins.
 
@blake said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340494) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340208) said:
@kazoo-kid said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340199) said:
@elleryhanley said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340191) said:
Was interesting as Mbye also as a linking 13.

AD was clearly the main ball player / controlled the game in opp 20.

Laurie was the spark.

Mbye the link.

Brooks does not seem to have a leading role in that structure though. Which is probably a good thing. Madden actually might suit it more as he passes much better to his centers than Brooks does IMO.

1. Laurie
6 AD
7 Brooks / Madden
13 Mbye...we need a ball playing lock / Tuki when ready. The 13 is vital nowadays to the spine.
9. Jake

The game changed when Mbye came on in my opinion. Having a third playmaker is key in today's game.

Yep Mbye was important for us today. Brooks looks to be a passenger these days.

A ball playing lock is a bad use of the position for a team that scores lots of tries and leaks massively in defence. That is why Twal is there. Radley, Jurbo and Murray are all excellent defenders as well as offering some ballplaying in attack.

Receipts: Brooks 53, Doueihi 37, Mbye 21. The person with the highest number of receipts is controlling the game. A lot of Doueihi's receipts were from Brooks.

Our attack last night was centred around AD, especially in the first half and the first part of the second half.. It was pretty clear to see. We were at our best when Mbye came on and was playing in the middle (prior to AJ’s injury). We were probably at our worst when Brooks got more of the ball in the final 20.

You are very entitled to your strong opinion of Brooks, but I think he’s the weak link in what I believe will be a pretty impressive spine for years to come.
 
@jirskyr said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340562) said:
@strongee said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340329) said:
@snake said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340276) said:
@watersider said in [Tigers Spine](/post/1340269) said:
Mbye should not ever play 7, that'd be a massive mistake. His organisation and direction is really poor and he has the same problem of Brooks of putting players under pressure with bad passing. at 13, Mbye is good and I see value in keeping him given the modern game.

Brooks was okay, but I still don't trust his decision making, had a few really bad passes, one turned into an error, players somehow held onto the ball on the others.

Doueihi was excellent again, unfortunately he barely touched the ball in the final 20. He's the sort of player who should be getting the ball, and demanding it at that time.

Yes, Laurie and Simpkin were very good. Simpkin fatigued looks a little error prone, but he was really classy all match.

Brooks does not make any decisions he catches passes and puts up crap kicks to be marked easily this is the weekly turn out .

None of brooks kicks were crap today . If you think that , give yourself a triple . That’s exactly what you want your half to do in a game like that .

It's exactly what Jack Wighton did all match against Parramatta tonight, and yes Raiders lost, but he's the reigning Dally M.

It's almost entirely what Moses does every week, though I will concede he took a few effective runs this evening, mostly he catches/passes and kicks on the back of good go-forward.

Jack Wighton is a myth in a good side and media darling, AD better player than wighton
 

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