Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club

@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038239) said:
@2041 said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038213) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038163) said:
Why is Luke Brooks’ inability to become a good, consistent halfback always everyone else’s fault?

Brooks is top in the NRL for line engagements.
He’s third in support play.
He’s ninth for try assists (5th among halfbacks).
He’s top 10 for number of runs (top half or 5/8 by an absolute street).
He’s outside the top 50 in errors (in the top 50: Moses, Croft, Nikorima, Townsend, Keary, Pearce, Milford).

He might not be the type of player you were expecting and he almost certainly isn’t the new Andrew Johns, but he definitively is a good player. I’m sorry you can’t see that, but there’s not an argument to be had here: there’s facts, and there’s what you believe.

Notice I'm not blaming anyone for anything, apart from possibly you for not seeing what's in front of your eyes. The grass is always greener I guess.

My criticism of Brooks isn't that he's not a good player. I think he's very talented. My issue with him is that when we need him to be good, he isn't. He has no killer instinct.

It's interesting that criticism of Brooks always seems to come down to things that are conveniently hard to prove or disprove objectively. There's no data for "killer instinct", is there - just what you think.
Last year someone on here said one of Brooks' failings was that he's never evident in support - a season in which he literally led the NRL in the "player in support" statistic. I'm not saying that's you, but whenever there's actual statistical evidence it almost always tends to suggest that Brooks is a very good half.
On the side of people who think Brooks is a good player is plenty of evidence. On the side of people who think he's rubbish is impressions and opinion.
 
@2041 said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038333) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038239) said:
@2041 said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038213) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038163) said:
Why is Luke Brooks’ inability to become a good, consistent halfback always everyone else’s fault?

Brooks is top in the NRL for line engagements.
He’s third in support play.
He’s ninth for try assists (5th among halfbacks).
He’s top 10 for number of runs (top half or 5/8 by an absolute street).
He’s outside the top 50 in errors (in the top 50: Moses, Croft, Nikorima, Townsend, Keary, Pearce, Milford).

He might not be the type of player you were expecting and he almost certainly isn’t the new Andrew Johns, but he definitively is a good player. I’m sorry you can’t see that, but there’s not an argument to be had here: there’s facts, and there’s what you believe.

Notice I'm not blaming anyone for anything, apart from possibly you for not seeing what's in front of your eyes. The grass is always greener I guess.

My criticism of Brooks isn't that he's not a good player. I think he's very talented. My issue with him is that when we need him to be good, he isn't. He has no killer instinct.

It's interesting that criticism of Brooks always seems to come down to things that are conveniently hard to prove or disprove objectively. There's no data for "killer instinct", is there - just what you think.
Last year someone on here said one of Brooks' failings was that he's never evident in support - a season in which he literally led the NRL in the "player in support" statistic. I'm not saying that's you, but whenever there's actual statistical evidence it almost always tends to suggest that Brooks is a very good half.
On the side of people who think Brooks is a good player is plenty of evidence. On the side of people who think he's rubbish is impressions and opinion.


I don’t think Brooks is rubbish at all, far from it. But I don’t think even his greatest fan could call him a clutch performer.
 
@2041 said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038213) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038163) said:
Why is Luke Brooks’ inability to become a good, consistent halfback always everyone else’s fault?

Brooks is top in the NRL for line engagements.
He’s third in support play.
He’s ninth for try assists (5th among halfbacks).
He’s top 10 for number of runs (top half or 5/8 by an absolute street).
He’s outside the top 50 in errors (in the top 50: Moses, Croft, Nikorima, Townsend, Keary, Pearce, Milford).

He might not be the type of player you were expecting and he almost certainly isn’t the new Andrew Johns, but he definitively is a good player. I’m sorry you can’t see that, but there’s not an argument to be had here: there’s facts, and there’s what you believe.

Notice I'm not blaming anyone for anything, apart from possibly you for not seeing what's in front of your eyes. The grass is always greener I guess.

His line engagements are great when he has the foot on the pedal , he rarely has the foot to the floor
 
Feel for JR, I was excited about his arrival and then..........

Hope he finds a gig elsewhere and we don’t burn to much of our cap moving him on.
 
@TCL said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038655) said:
Feel for JR, I was excited about his arrival and then..........

Hope he finds a gig elsewhere and we don’t burn to much of our cap moving him on.

I think we all feel the same...but in 2 years as a WT he hasn't been on the field to prove his worth, so the club has decided to cut its losses...which I can understand
 
@Geo said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1037288) said:
lol...it was a great pass..


It was a great pass ...
Look closely...Brooks has his eyes closed !
 
@hobbo1 said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038711) said:
@Geo said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1037288) said:
lol...it was a great pass..


It was a great pass ...
Look closely...Brooks has his eyes closed !

He is taking the no look pass to the next level.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038711) said:
@Geo said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1037288) said:
lol...it was a great pass..


It was a great pass ...
Look closely...Brooks has his eyes closed !

That's a great skill
 
@Jimmy I like the guy but he is dreaming. If our coach has intentions of moving players on before their contracts are up then odds are we are going to end up paying.
 
@Jimmy said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038699) said:
But Pascoe states we won’t be paying out contracts at the tigers anymore p?

Yep he did, but times have changed with exceptional circumstances requiring bad, but necessary action. He cant argue about the need to rid the side of Cleary's poor, overpriced signings that are hamstringing the team. He gave Cleary his trust, and approved whoever Cleary wanted and for how long, now, he has to undo the error at the price of paying freight to clear the deadwood.
 
Josh has been named in the 21 squad this week so assuming he is not injured ? Are we just trying to sell him to other clubs to say he is ready and named. IF he is fit to play I say give him the 14 jumper and see what he has and hopefully he play well and interests picks up.
 
@hsvjones said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038755) said:
Josh has been named in the 21 squad this week so assuming he is not injured ? Are we just trying to sell him to other clubs to say he is ready and named. IF he is fit to play I say give him the 14 jumper and see what he has and hopefully he play well and interests picks up.

He’s just making up the numbers.
 
@Tiger_Bond I believe Reynolds would be a revelation at fullback. He's tough enough he's agile enough and definitely has the ball skills to kill it at fullback. I love Corey Thompson and he's a great fullback, but Reynolds would do just as well but also provide more options. Momirovski isn't quite handling first grade at the moment so Thompson would go to the wing.
I really think it's worth a try. I'm sick of, not only the Wests Tigers, but other clubs getting rid of players, and paying a large portion of their salary for them to play at another club. What's the point of losing an origin player to get back 300k-400k? Who are you going to get?
Thoughts?
 
@Geo said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038736) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038711) said:
@Geo said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1037288) said:
lol...it was a great pass..


It was a great pass ...
Look closely...Brooks has his eyes closed !

That's a great skill

Sure is .......not easy being assy and not classy
 
@hsvjones said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038755) said:
IF he is fit to play I say give him the 14 jumper and see what he has and hopefully he play well and interests picks up.

What role would he play?
 
@Mark-Hughes said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038757) said:
@Tiger_Bond I believe Reynolds would be a revelation at fullback. He's tough enough he's agile enough and definitely has the ball skills to kill it at fullback. I love Corey Thompson and he's a great fullback, but Reynolds would do just as well but also provide more options. Momirovski isn't quite handling first grade at the moment so Thompson would go to the wing.
I really think it's worth a try. I'm sick of, not only the Wests Tigers, but other clubs getting rid of players, and paying a large portion of their salary for them to play at another club. What's the point of losing an origin player to get back 300k-400k? Who are you going to get?
Thoughts?

He is not a FB - no matter how much you wish it.
 
@cochise said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038764) said:
@Mark-Hughes said in [Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club](/post/1038757) said:
I believe Reynolds would be a revelation at fullback

No!


Lol...
Agree !
 
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